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Thanks for the triple crown thing. I was listening to all the media and thought that Big Brown would win for sure. Footballplayr69 (talk) 23:03, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Mdewakanton - Ojibwe?

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Hi: I saw your February 16 or 17 2006 addition to the Mdewakanton article and one point jumps out at me..... Forgive my ignorance, but does a component of the Mdewakanton really survive in the Mille Lacs Band of Ojibwe?? If so, how did that little anomaly come about?TjoeC (talk) 14:52, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Among the Mille Lacs Band of Ojibwe and the St. Croix Chippewa Indians of Wisconsin, the Mdewakanton who remained north of the 1825 Treaty of Prairie du Chien line were adopted as "Ojibwe" as what was known in Ojibwe as Biitan-akiing-enabijig (the Border Sitters) and they have the Wolf as their doodem. This is even more pronounced among the Mille Lacs Band as all the ceremonial drums there are all Dakota, all the ceremonial songs are Dakota one that were translated into Ojibwe, and all the dances associated with the drums are Dakota. One of four historical tribes forming the Mille Lacs Band of Ojibwe is the Mille Lacs Indians, who were the treaty signatories of the area. The Mille Lacs Indians is a combined tribe formed from the Mille Lacs Band of Mdewakanton Sioux with the Mille Lacs Band of Mississippi Chippewa. All of the early Mille Lacs Indian chiefs had Dakota names: Shakpi (Shakopee), Pitad (Pedud), Mazamani (Mazomaunie), etc. The St. Croix Chippewa Indians form the eastern half of the Biitan-akiing-enabijig, of which those in Wisconsin (the St. Croix Chippewa Indians of Wisconsin) is a federally recognized tribe, while those in Minnesota (the St. Croix Chippewa Indians of Minnesota and the Snake River and Kettle River sub-bands of the St. Croix Chippewa Indians of Minnesota) are part of the Mille Lacs Band of Ojibwe. The so-called Chippewa-Sioux War that lasted for generations upon generation is bunk (though treated as fact); the war lasted only 1 generation and ended around 1760. After that, the Ojibwe and Dakota had to co-exist with each other and in that process forged a mixed Dakota-Ojibwe culture, with the Ojibwe's southern boundaries being the Eau Claire River, Chippewa River, Mississippi River, Crow River, Chippewa River, Minnesota River, Bois des Sioux River, and Cheyenne River (heading east to west from Wisconsin to North Dakota), while the Dakota's northern boundaries being the Eau Claire River, Chippewa River, Red Cedar River, Clam River, Kettle River, Raspberry River, St. Louis River, Savanna Rivers, Mississippi River, Leech Lake River, Crow Wing River, Leaf River, Otter Tail River, Bois des Sioux River and Cheyenne River. The 1825 Treaty of Prairie du Chien basically drew an artificial mid-line in that over-lapping area, which then caused an identity crisis among the Ojibwe and the Dakota affected, with periodic skirmishes between the 1760's and 1825 erupting into full civil war. Dakota north of the line became "Ojibwe," becoming the distinct Biitan-akiing-enabijig, while the Ojibwe south of the line became fully integrated into the Mdewakanton (such as with the case of Chief Wapsha (Wabashaw)). CJLippert (talk) 16:24, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

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Fascinating. I feel a version of this might add to one of the artcles, if it's not original work.TjoeC (talk) 04:03, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

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It can be created in parts. The boundary issues should be in the discussion points of how the US negotiators came up with the various Priarie du Chien lines that demarcated Sioux territory from that of Ojibwe, Ho-Chunk, Ioway, Sac and Fox. There is an article regarding the Mississippi Chippewa, Mille Lacs Indians, Mdewakanton and St. Croix Chippewa Indians, but none are robust. For the St. Croix Chippewa Indians, that article needs to be split between the historical unified tribe of St. Croix Chippewa Indians and the modern eastern half of that historical tribe known as the federally recognized St. Croix Chippewa Indians of Wisconsin. Also, we have articles for the Pembina Chippewa, Lake Superior Chippewa and the Pillager Chippewa, but we currently have only a re-direct for the Boarder-sitter Chippewa that redirects to the St. Croix Chippewa Indians.

In addition, these would be good background discussion for yet to exist article for Chief Shakopee and Chief Wabasha III. CJLippert (talk) 13:58, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Charlie Sheen

No problem at all. You're a great editor so I assumed it was an error. Thanks, Postoak (talk) 01:33, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Erlinder and Rwanda

Change the link on the Rwandan Genocide page from C. Peter Erlinder to Peter Erlinder. I'd do it myself but its protected. Thanks. Revolutioninminnesota (talk) 22:21, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Eric Escola

Hi, TjoeC!

The article in question was created without any references at all in it - and it was only four sentences. As such, there were two reasons for deletion - the first, as you said, was "no indication of importance or significance". The second reason is the Biography of Living Persons guideline. The refs you provided would satisfy the second criteria, as they provide some reference about a living person. The first issue, though, is the tighter one - if Eskola has only hosted a local TV show, he doesn't reach Wikipedia's Notability Guidelines.

I'm going to Userfy the article - so that it's in your personal user space. With that, you can work on the article to improve it, providing the references you indicated, and hopefully improving the article. However, you should know that any other user may mark the article for the deletion process.

Hope that helps! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 00:45, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

The page is now at: User:TjoeC/Eric Eskola. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 00:49, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

This page was re-created some time agoTjoeC (talk) 19:21, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

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