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Capitol Wrestling and Jess McMahon

Hey. Just to let you know, the Hornbaker book isn't the only source which is used. Other sources do say Jess McMahon founded Capitol Wrestling, see This and This on page 16, which is older than Hornbaker's book. In addition, see This source. There is more to the history of WWE than what they say.--Tærkast (Discuss) 19:39, 31 January 2020 (UTC).

No! The WWE often changes its history. Look here this video on YouTube. In the intros from the 90s it is sais "for over 50 years the revolutionary force in sports entertainment. Which means that the origins must be somewhere in the 1940s wich is absolutely not true.

And if you rely on sources, you should rely more on sources from actual wresling historians.

You don't like the sources I provide? Fine, but one source that you did not in fact provide, will not suffice. You need to provide verifiable sources, those books are reliable sources. YouTube isn't. You need to brush up on What contsitutes a reliable source. Just because you say one thing, doesn't make it so. You have a problem and want to avoid violating the three revert rule? Then take it to the talk page. --Tærkast (Discuss) 12:02, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

The article now says that the WWE started on January 7, 1952. When the sources i mentioned said it was Jauary 7, 1953. How can it be that it is two times the same date with a differnt year? I have even the results from the show. You can find it here: There are nowhere results to be found from January 7 , 1952. And i dont think that the founder waited exactly one year for his first show.

So that alone is wrong! And there are more facts that are worng. I can give you a ton of sources for exaple this and this .

Those sources don't exactly give anything unless you can cite specific pages. I won't argue about the date of WWE's founding, but Jess was a founder of the company. Oh and you might want to read this source, Vince McMahon Sr's official profile which states and I quote, "From the time Vince, Sr. took over Capitol Wrestling Corporation from his father, the company continued to flourish in the northeastern United States.". So yes, Jess was a founder of Capitol Wrestling. --Tærkast (Discuss) 12:39, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

In the encyclopedia on page 372 it sais "Upon arrival [in Washington, DC], Vince purchased a small dilapidated venue he later called Capitol Arena. On January 7, 1953, he put on the first-ever Capitol Wrestling Corporation event. Like most startups, Capitol Wrestling experienced its share of growing pains, [..]" and on page 164 under "Jess McMahon" there is nothing to be mentioned that he started the CWC. "[...] Jess begann promoting wrestling in the New York metropolitan area [...]" and "He eventually became official wrestling matchmaker at Madison Square Garden."

But I changed the article now and mentioned this dispute over the founder of CWC and used your sources for this. I hope we can agree on this. TheAY1986 (talk) 17:15, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

You're only referencing one source, which is an encyclopedia. The sources I provide note Jess' role as founder. The WWE's official profile of Vince Sr states Jess is the founder of CWC, from which Vince Sr. took over. We either include Jess or no founder, which may be the better option. In any event, I've taken it to the WWE talk page. Nothing should be changed until a consensus is formed over there.--Tærkast (Discuss) 20:20, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

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Miz-Shane-Snoop

Not trying to give you ha hard time, but Miz-Shane and Miz-Snoop are considered 2 separate matches. Shane doesn't get hurt, we don't get Miz-Snoop. Also, they were doing everything on the fly so not every little minute detail gets covered. Shane pops his quad, they stop the match, then they improvise Miz-Snoop. They forgot to ring the bell, that's called working in the heat of the moment and skipping a small detail. The planned match got stopped, then a new improvised one took it's place. Not a situation that happens every day, so it's not like there's a handbook for this kind of thing, but the source does clearly state Miz-Snoop was improvised on the spot, so it wasn't part of the Miz-Shane match, thus they are separate. Vjmlhds (talk) 17:55, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

That is just your opinion of this situation. several wrestling sites list it only as miz vs snoop.