User talk:Tasc0/Archive 1

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Welcome and reply

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I removed covers from the chronology section of the infobox because it violates our fair use policy. Album covers can only be used as a part of critical commentary about the album itself. They shouldn't be used decoratively in an article about a different album. Jogers (talk) 08:18, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Template usage

Per Wikipedia User Page policy:

"Do not put your userpage or subpages, including work-in-progress articles, into categories used by Wikipedia articles. (this is what you are doing) Be careful of templates and stub notices that put a work-in-progress article into categories. (by adding the {{autobiography}} template to your USER page)"

Your User page is not an article and does not have to be NPOV, it is obviously an autobiography. Use the {{userpage}} template instead.--DO11.10 22:54, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Please vote

I noticed you edited Notepad++ and I was hoping that you would help save the article by voting at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Notepad++ --Adam1213 Talk + 07:00, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Sure, thanks for warning me. I not only edited the article, I also use Notepad++ very often. --Tasc0 17:22, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Damu Ridas Vol.1: Dangerous

This particular one cannot be deleted since it's authorship history must be retained following the attribution requirements in the WP:GFDL. Please note that being unlinked is not one of the Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion. Splash - tk 22:25, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Cut-n-paste moves

Hello again. I thought I should let you know that moving one article to another title is done by using the 'move' button. Doing so preserves the editing history into the new title. Copy and pasting the material across does not do this, and violates the terms of the GFDL, particularly if someone then deletes the original article. I have just fixed How Deep Is Your Hood in this respect, and I'm going to have ask that you stop seeking deletion of redirects resulting in this kind of fashion. They are not speedy candidates. Splash - tk 22:30, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Hm, looking at your other recent edits, I see you're perfectly familiar with the 'move' button, so excuse the above. However, cut-n-paste was the way you created How Deep Is Your Hood, so still... Splash - tk 23:24, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

First, what did you do to How Deep Is Your Hood?. And second, I did not "cut and paste" to create the article, I just used the same image file as the album cover.

In addition, the articles I nominated to speedy deletion are spelled incorrectly. Both of them (Damu Ridas Vol.1: Dangerous and Damu Ridas Vol.2: How Deep Is Your Hood) and I consider they should be deleted.

As I see your way of thinking with redirects and speedy deletion, I'm going to have to nomite both of the articles to be deleted.

Thanks for all your concerns.--Tasc0 02:42, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

187 Ride By

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WP:AFD

Articles for Deletion is the wrong venue for redirects. I've closed the two AfDs that you started (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Damu Ridas Vol.1: Dangerous and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Damu Ridas Vol.2: How Deep Is Your Hood) and moved their discussion to Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2007_August_16. Flyguy649 ^talk _contribs 18:16, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for that. I'll keep it in mind next time I nominate a redirect to be deleted.--Tasc0 18:17, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Redirect of Ain't Got no Class

Hello, this is a message from an automated bot. A tag has been placed on Ain't Got no Class, by another Wikipedia user, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. The tag claims that it should be speedily deleted because Ain't Got no Class is a redirect to a non-existent page (CSD R1).

To contest the tagging and request that administrators wait before possibly deleting Ain't Got no Class, please affix the template {{hangon}} to the page, and put a note on its talk page. If the article has already been deleted, see the advice and instructions at WP:WMD. Feel free to contact the bot operator if you have any questions about this or any problems with this bot, bearing in mind that this bot is only informing you of the nomination for speedy deletion; it does not perform any nominations or deletions itself. CSDWarnBot 04:32, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I was about to nominate it after the deletion of Ain't Got No Class. Great anyways.--Tasc0 20:27, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Planet of da apes

i put the "chocolate city" single info here because the single article is about to be deleted. if you want to revert again, i wont touch it, but i wanted to make you aware of this. --AlexOvShaolin 18:44, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

I noticed that you did it for that reason, even though, the article is about an album and not about a single. The single article claims no notability. See WP:CSD#A7.--Tasc0 21:18, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Maad Circle

Alright Tasc0, I will explain my edits to the article you created, WC and the Maad Circle. I was on allmusic.com getting the chart positions for the 2 albums and I read the article on the Maad Circle and it said this "In addition to the former Ice-T affiliate WC, the talented group also included DJ Crazy Toones, longtime Ice Cube producer Sir Jinx, and future chart-topping pop-rapper Coolio. That is why I added Sir Jinx as a member. I would gladly cite this, but I do not know how to. I would like to stop this edit war before thing get out of hand, so tell me how to cite my sources. --SameAsItEverWas —Preceding unsigned comment added by SameAsItEverWas (talk • contribs) 20:46, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

First of all, thanks for understanding. What All Music Guide says about Sir Jinx it's not as a member, but as a producer for the group. Besides that, you should listen to people who know just a little bit about Wikipedia. Of course I'm not saying I'm an expert or something like that, I'd listen to anyone who has something to say and properly check if that's true.

Anyways, I was trying to help you but you just kept reverting. Just saying "I got it from allmusic.com" in the edit summary doesn't mean you're citing a reliable source. You must cite it within the article.

Let me post some useful guidelines:

• Wikipedia:Citing sources
• Wikipedia:Footnotes
• Wikipedia:Citation templates (you want {{cite web}})

If you have any problems, you may want to check the source of the following article that I cited sources myself: Tweedy Bird Loc.

I hope that clears all your doubts and questions. Anything else, just reply back here.--Tasc0 23:56, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Alright, now that you pointed this out to me, I understand alot better. I will no longer place Sir Jinx as a member (or change the Wikitable), but I think he does belong in the associated acts section, and being that this whole thing between us is over, can you put WC, Coolio and Crazy Toones as members in the infobox? Same As It Ever Was —Preceding unsigned comment added by SameAsItEverWas (talk • contribs) 07:09, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

What you're saying is to put a music producer as an associated act? That wouldn't make much sence. Think about how many producers had worked with Ice Cube just for example, or how many times Dr. Dre would have to be in associated acts.--Tasc0 18:20, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Real Compton G

Yo, i saw ur message on SameAsItEverWas talk page and i was wonderin' if u were refering 2 me ? - holla back - Real Compton G 13:34, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I was. But as I said, I didn't mean to be rude.--Tasc0 20:15, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Yo, no bother, i kno wot u mean but i only write like tht on talk pages, on the real pages i keep to the rulz.lol - keep it real - Real Compton G 21:14, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

May I ask why? Some users may not understand whay you're trying to say.--Tasc0 21:16, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I guess its just quicker, if sum1 dosent understand i'll translate it - keep it real - Real Compton G 21:22, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Lil iROCC Williams

Hi, please re-read WP:MUSIC. Thanks. Chubbles 04:35, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

You want me to read the intire article just because you told me to? I think you may want to point out why should I, or maybe what section. Even better, cite what you want me to read here. Thank you.--Tasc0 04:39, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Charting on Billboard's charts is an assertion of notability. I've been through this many times. Cheers. Chubbles 04:41, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

WP:CSD#A1 may apply here.--Tasc0 04:44, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh, for Pete's sake, can I write a stub about pop music without having someone try to delete it? Ay yay yay. Give me five minutes and I'll add a battery of reviews. Ugh. Ugh! Chubbles 04:45, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, I appreciate your work and that you're contributing to Wikipedia. But, in my opinion, I think that you just can't create any article about a person just because you like his/her work. Or is a nice guy.

I can see that besides the article it's very short, you cited sources and everything, but come on. We both now that the articles has no claims of notability as an article. The artist may have charted in Billboard, but that is all.--Tasc0 04:52, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Here you go. And for what it's worth, I don't like his music, and I know almost nothing about him as a person. I wrote an article because he's clearly notable. Anybody who charts in the US should have an article. Chubbles 04:54, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

You can try creating articles about everybody that charted in the Billboard, but if there's no claims of notabilty, it may be deleted.

I just want you to know that I'm not against you, or against your work. Please don't take personal. I just think the articles lacks notability.--Tasc0 04:58, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Except that I have now clearly substantiated notability under points 1 and 4 of WP:MUSIC. I'm not reading it wrong, am I? Chubbles 05:01, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

I gues you're not, but like I said, the articles lacks notabilty. You just have to deal with it. It doesn't mather if WP:MUSIC say a different thing. That's just for "music related articles", like this one. But is still an article.--Tasc0 05:05, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

At this point, I'll leave it to the admins and/or DRV to decide. I think I've made my case. Chubbles 05:06, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, keep the article at any cost.--Tasc0 05:12, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Actually, yes. I see no reasonable case to delete the article, and to do so would be to remove relevant, encyclopedic content. Chubbles 05:21, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

It's not encyclopedic since it lacks notabilty.--Tasc0 05:25, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

This article is absolutely not a clear speedy. I recommend you review Wikipedia: Criteria for speedy deletion and Wikipedia: Notability (music). You also inappropriately restored the tag after another user (not the article creator) had removed it, and cited the wrong criteria in your tag. Please be more careful in applying CSD tags, and pursue a articles for deletion discussion if you think this article should be deleted. Natalie 23:48, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Funny, Wikipeda: Notability (music) doesn't exist. I didn't restore the tag, I added another criteria (A1). You probably need to check the changes. Thanks.--Tasc0 23:56, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Excuse my typo. I should think the intent was rather obvious. Your second speedy tag said "No claims of notability per WP:CSD#A1". Except CSD criteria A1 doesn't cover notability at all. The A1 criteria is no context, and this article obviously includes context.

Further, I would consider examining your attitude when dealing with other editors. Your response to the user who began this thread was somewhat rude, and your response to myself was unnecessarily sarcastic. Natalie 00:18, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Is it me, or are you assuming bad faith?

The article includes notable context because the creator of the article saw the speedy deletion template and quickly stated trying to add every single information to make it notable. He even asked me if I was "satisfied".

As you can see, English is not my natal lenguage, and I may have expressed in the wrong way. Thank you for understanding.--Tasc0 00:24, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

I was not aware that English is not your native language. However, I would take your own recommendation about assuming bad faith. To say "You probably need to check the changes" suggests that I didn't, when I obviously must have to know that you tagged the same article for speedy deletion twice. Your responses to both myself and Chubbles seem exceptionally sarcastic, but this may be a result of not being a native English speaker.

That said, the A1 criteria (about context) says nothing about notability at all. Notability and context are two different things, and the article both contains context and asserts notability. Natalie 00:28, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Well excuse me, you clearly said "You also inappropriately restored the tag..." as that meaning I put the exact same content and reason, wich I didn't. The second speedy deletion was different from the first one, so I did not restored the tag.

Seeing that, I thought that you didn't check the changes (there's a little button for that feature) so I suggested you to do so. If I'm being rude giving you an advice, then I guess I'm going to have to apologise.--Tasc0 00:35, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Saying that your restoration of a tag was inappropriate is not assuming bad faith - saying that you were meaning to be inappropriate would be bad faith. You did give the same reason, as you cited notability each time. Your citing of a different criteria I took to be a typo. I'm not really objecting to your giving advice, more to the way you're giving it. But I can't really explain it more than that, so I'm willing to just drop this. Natalie 00:53, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Willing to drop... Ok, just understand I did not restored the tag.

If there are any guidelines or policy to give advices, I'd appreciate it if you link it here. Thanks.--Tasc0 01:03, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Template request

{{User:Zscout370/2m}}. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 02:11, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Great, I just didn't want to host it myself since you made it up.--Tasc0 02:35, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

That is not a problem; it turned out to be easier than I thought. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 02:41, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

What? Creating the template?--Tasc0 02:42, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 02:52, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, as you saw, it's really easy. Maybe not so bold would be better. But I leave that up to you.--Tasc0 02:58, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Westside Slaughterhouse

Please do not add unhelpful and non-constructive information to Wikipedia, as you did to Westside Slaughterhouse. Your edits could be considered vandalism, and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you.--West Coast Ryda 11:01, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Lol? "Westside Slaughterhouse" is a song by Mack 10 and no by the group Westside Connection. In fact, the template you made it's wrong: "Notable songs: "Westside Slaughterhouse"".

You can't put the template just because the three members are in the song. I do not see the song in any album of the group as a group. Thank you.--Tasc0 19:52, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

But the song is known as a group song however it appeared in ones album. West Coast Ryda 19:25, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

I understand that the three members are in the song, but they are not as a group. What's so hard to understand? The song is in Mack 10's album.

For example, you just don't add the N.W.A. template in Ice Cube article.--Tasc0 19:29, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

no because NWA is with a few others who doesent link to Cube. but this song links up to all three so the template should be there. West Coast Ryda 20:58, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

So you're reviewing articles and adding false information in articles according to how many "links" an article has about another one? That sounds creepy.

You know, what you just said made me laugh. Because it's very funny. This is not a personal attack, by the way. If you continue adding the template to the article, I'll request an administrator to deal this. You do not own the article, you submitted it by the GFDL license.--Tasc0 21:05, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Ice Cube discography

Hi Tasc0, I noticed you removed the sources for his record certifications. I know it's obvious what they are, but people always change the certifications without explanation. It is policy that all material must be cited and verified. This is especially important for sales and certifications in discography articles because people always change them without a source. Also, you removed the Westside Connection and NWA templates. I agree with you there. The article is about Ice Cube the solo artist, not his group work. I prefer his collaboration albums with NWA etc. to be removed as well because this is not a group article. Spellcast 23:50, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Hello. I removed the source because it is obsolete. Any user who click the link to the source will find a web site that has no information what so ever about the certifications. This is because the RIAA web site, in my opinion, is mediocre. So, it is like no citing any source. Finding another source will be much better.

About the N.W.A albums and the other groups, I think they need to be there. The article is a main article. The solo albums are in the Ice Cube article.--Tasc0 00:02, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah unfortunately, you can't really get a specific URL on the RIAA searchable database. Because it's in a list, I know it looks pointless to reference it in every line (a table should solve the problem). And I don't think the N.W.A. albums belong there (there are separate pages for them). You removed the group templates here saying "this is an article about Ice Cube". True, but why not extend this further to the article content? Take a look at the Paul McCartney discography or Beyonce discography. Doesn't it seem unnecessary to put The Beatles and Destiny's Child albums in their solo stuff? The templates are unnecessary, so I don't see why it should be different here. Spellcast 00:39, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

If you are going to lead by others articles, then you better think better. That's why guidelines exist. You probably need to ask it on the albums project. I think, that if this is a main article and the solo work is in the Ice Cube article, then the group's album should be added in the discography article.--Tasc0 01:13, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

I brought it up at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music/MUSTARD#Discographies where its had support. The main articles for the NWA and Westside Connection discographies are in separate pages, not in the Ice Cube one. On solo artist biographies, we only write about their solo work because there are separate pages for group work. Anyway, you can voice your opinion there if you wish. Featured lists such as the Gwen Stefani discography separates her group work. Spellcast 01:23, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

I understand, but there's no official guideline, so people may not agree with removing the group's work.--Tasc0 01:34, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Captain Dan & the Scurvy Crew

I {{prod}}ed Captain Dan & the Scurvy Crew rather than speedy deleting it because it had weak but plausible notability asserted ("appeared on a number of radio talk shows") and it was created by Joshfist (talk · contribs), a semi-retired but established editor (rather than a newbie obviously attempting to promote his or her garage band) who might be able to improve the article. It was an admin-discretion decision that has the added benefit of being less drastic and a greater-than-zero liklihood of creating an encyclopedic article. Hope that explains it well enough... Cheers, — Scientizzle 19:37, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Ok, so in Wikipedia existe the exceptions. That's great. I hope I could be an admin someday to enjoy that right.

I'm tired of people not replying in the thread I start. Thank you.--Tasc0 19:44, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you're getting at in multiple parts of your comment. Do you think I was playing favorites or something? I've never interacted with Joshfist before, and I've speedied hundreds of articles. If there's no improvement in 5 days, the result ends up exactly the same. If, instead, someone (anyone) comes along and improves the article to community standards, then everybody wins, right? [If I've misinterpreted your comment as righteous indignation, I apologize. If not, and you are dissatisfied with my choice, I just don't see your point.]

As for the 2nd part, does that mean you wanted me to reply on my talk page rather than here? — Scientizzle 20:01, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

You said that the user is a semi-retired but established editor, and because of that you put the prod template. That sounds like exceptions to me. And to the second part of your question: yes.--Tasc0 20:12, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

As for the 1st part, (and I'll continue here since this is now where the bulk of the coversation lies) let me make it clearer: as an "established editor", I figure that Joshfist is plenty familiar with Wikipedia guidelines and therefore equipped to address the article's needs if possible and willing. The article is fairly well built, but lacks sources to back up its rather weak assertion of notability. What's the harm in giving an article that's "almost there" a few more days before the dustbin? I would have done so for any established editor, and I would also have given any newbie that put together this good of a first effort similar leeway. My point was that this article wasn't your standard "Band X is made up of Josh,Steve,and Bill and totally rocks--check out their myspace page", and I interpreted the assertion of notability as plausible enough to disqualify it from WP:CSD.

As for the 2nd part, how on earth was I supposed to read your mind about that? Many folks put box templates on their talk page clearly indicating how they prefer to interact coversation-wise...Maybe you should do so, too? — Scientizzle 20:26, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, did the user specifically told you that he's is familiar with the Wikipedia guidelines? According to you, he did not: "I've never interacted with Joshfist before". So, what else can I think of your action exept the one I already had?

Second part: don't worry about it. I just said "I'm tired of...".--Tasc0 20:34, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

This is just silly. Do you feel slighted that your speedy deletion tagging was rejected? Why attribute something to "playing favorites" when it could have easily been (and should have been) interpreted as "just disagreeing with you"? I think I've sufficiently explained a reasonable rationale: plausible assertion of notability = no speedy deletion (+ bonus points for an article creator that may just know what he or she is doing). — Scientizzle 20:54, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Why didn't you just said that? Jesus. And no, it's not because you rejected my speedy deletion. I'm not a child.--Tasc0 21:25, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

On a related note...

I declined the speedy on Every Move a Picture. There are clear assertions of notability in that article, which means the subject does not meet the criteria for speedy deletion. You're welcome to follow up with a prod or AfD, or even add tags for better sourcing. — Scientizzle 20:26, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

"Very short article" is a terrible deletion reason, see WP:STUB. I've de-proded because, even if it had lasted for 5 days, no good admin would/should ever delete for that reason. Feel free to reapply with a prod (better yet, an AfD) that addresses, for example, WP:MUSIC. — Scientizzle 20:54, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Funny, you say "No good admin would/should ever delete for that reason.".

I just had the time to read WP:PROD and look what I just found:

Articles that:
   * Have previously been proposed for deletion
   * Have previously been undeleted
   * Have been discussed on AfD
are not candidates for {{prod}}.

This means, that the advice you gave me as an admin of placing another {{prod}} with a better reason it's wrong. Who's a good admin now?--Tasc0 03:33, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Removing

Yeh i know that you are removing unsourced material but the guide doesent say remove the whole page and leave two lines which tells who the article is about and when he/she was born (a person) or when a group was created. But your edits towards most of the musicians from west coast are just playing with the page. Please watch what u have been leaving left there. It's just something like: bla bla bla is a group from ... they are including members name name name and so on.. then the group did an album named ... and they ended off in ... year. and a discography section. The most pointless edits ever. West Coast Ryda 14:00, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Ils

This article which you tagged for speedy deletion is on deletion review if you want to put in your opinion: Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 September 30. Wickethewok 17:08, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Edit War ?

Yo, wot hav i dun 2 participate in an "edit war" wit u ? i've not reverted any of ur edits yet - Keep It Real - Real Compton G 18:18, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

You just said it: yet.

Let me quote your own words "Alryt, sounds lik a gd idea just 2 4get bout his crazy ass edits, so i'll just leave him 2 delete shit, but i'll revert his edits if he does mo than he shud".

I clearly said "the user Real Compton G it's ready to participate in an edit war no matter what are my true reasons of removing certain material". I did not say that you are in an edit war. Thank you.

By the way, you really need to manage your words when refering to a user.--Tasc0 20:36, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

1st of all, i've told u b4 tht i'll write wot way i want 2, 2nd, i said i'll revert if u delete mo then u shud, meaning if u delete info which shud b kept, then i'll revert it. - Keep It Real - Real Compton G 20:01, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Write they way you want, just watch your words. Don't insult. And the information that should be kept is the one that's cited with reliable sources.--Tasc0 20:26, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Wot do ya mean "Don't insult" ? i didnt write anythin 2 insult u. And y cant a tag b added 4 sum info which isnt sourced ? rather than u deletin' it all - Keep It Real - Real Compton G 17:30, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

"His crazy ass edits". The tag can be placed, but the only thing it does is warn the users that the article does not cite any sources. That doesn't change the fact the there are unsourced material and it should be removed. People add the tag just as a warning.--Tasc0 21:34, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

To be honest, i wasnt talkin 2 u wen i added tht message, so i wasnt actually tryin 2 insult u. Anyway i think u shud use the tag, instead of deleting most of a page - Keep It Real - Real Compton G 16:38, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

You was refering to me. And that's an insult. Just watch your words. Saying this I finish the conversation about this issue. Thank you.--Tasc0 20:51, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Yo, im not ready 2 finish the convo yet, bcoz ur still going 2 continue deleting most of a page, instead of adding sum tags 4 unsourced info. Y cant u go and look 4 refs 4 info, rather than just deleting it ? imo u just cant b bothered helping out so u just delete stuff which u cud try and find a ref 4 - Keep It Real - Real Compton G 15:48, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok. If you see any article that had some material removed and you're the one who's interested about it, you should try looking for sources. I'm just doing what the policies say. This can be found here and here. Please read it. Thank you.--Tasc0 17:54, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Confused

Are you actually aware of User:Tosco-0? If that's actually you, please stop making idiotic threats. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 21:29, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I've blocked User:Tosco-0 as an impersonator. If it is your valid alternate account, please say so here. - auburnpilot talk 21:50, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

No, it is not me. It is not an alternate account. I have not created this account.

This is just a the result of a few people that think they can do what they feel like in Wikipedia. They've seen there are guidelines and policies that users must follow, like I have.

I'm not going to let the pass away. I'm going to report all the users I think are responsibles of this action.

AuburnPilot, would you please take a look to Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#213_.28group.29, this has some relevant material. I'd appreciate it. Thank you for blocking the other account and wait to my response. If you have any comment about this situation, I'd appreciate it very much.--Tasc0 22:16, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

You gotta admit, though, that impersonator wasn't very clever, particularly the way he handled the situation. I also think I know who is responsible for this. It's a shame, it shouldn't have come to this. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 22:19, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh come on, quite the bullsh*t. You and your little "e-homies" did this. I'm going to report all of you. I really thought your little group was a bit better than this, but it turned out the other way.--Tasc0 22:27, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I didn't do shit you dumbass. There's no group, if anything, I have a group with User:Ayoleftyz. So, because you saw that discussion on their talk pages, that means I do what they do? For fuck's sake, I told them not to report you. The only thing I ever said to you was to stop making comments like you did at the DJ Pooh AfD. I think I know which one of them it is also. By the way, I fucking agree with removing unsourced material from biographies. You should really work on your WP:AGF. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 22:35, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

In fact, why don't you take a look at my contributions? When have I ever done anything similar to this? I'm on your side, buddy. I try to remove the same unsourced shit you do. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 22:42, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

This situation has gone beyond assuming good faith. As you personal attacked me I have my conclusions about you and your e-homies, by the way, I wasn't referring to Ayoleftyz, I don't even know who he is. I was referring to the other little group of friends you have. Like it or not, I will report all of you.

I honestly don't care what your edits are on Wikipedia.

Why don't you tell me who you think it was instead of keeping in in secret. Go talk to your friends on MSN and tell everyone of them I'm going to report them, including you. Thank you--Tasc0 22:45, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

This is definitely my last reply. I think it's "West Coast Ryda". I missed that since I was in a hurry. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 23:38, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

When have I ever edited 213? When have I ever bitched about references? Why would I help them do such a thing when I'm well aware of the rules and it goes against what I fight for? Ask yourself those questions. I have no "e-homies", as you can see, I use ENGLISH. What personal attack? What personal attack??? Honestly, I would like to know. That "smart ass" bullshit? That's because you were a smart ass. I'm serious, leave me out of this bullshit. Might as well report everyone they ever talked to. That's just not what I do. I have articles I need to watch. This could potentially lead to whoever was actually involved in this to be indefinitely blocked. I can't afford that, the articles I'm watching are edited constantly by editors who don't have a clue about WP:VERIFY. Why would I knowingly take that risk, over something as idiotic as this? Like I said, I agree with you. This is just ridiculous. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 22:52, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

First, like I said, I do not care about what your edits are or are not in Wikipedia. The 213 article does not have to do with this.

If you care about your account and you didn't have to do anything at all with this, then I think there's nothing to you be worried about.

In first place, you should not personall attacked me since I never have. In that occasion I let it go, but right now I'm not. Sorry for you, I will report you.--Tasc0 22:58, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

(unindent) When did I attack you? Even if you do report me, nothing will probably happen. I might get a warning for calling you a "smart ass" (I didn't even use any bad words, and it wasn't that bad). The other thing, if you really do believe I had anything to do with them creating an account, what can you do? I didn't do anything, but what are they gonna block me for? Telling them what is going on? After he (or they) get blocked for a long time, I'll still be here because I haven't done anything wrong. I am just going to ignore this bullshit right now, that means I will remove your talk page from my watchlist. If you have anything to say to me, leave a message on my talk page. Don't even bother replying here, or at the WP:ANI post, I'm just gonna edit my watchlist. Have a nice day. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 23:22, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm going to reply here just for the record. What happens if I report you? Two things: you'll have a report log about this issue. If you're related to a problem like this one, a log will be available.

I will copy the above and paste it on your talk page as you asked. Since it is my response.--Tasc0 23:32, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I told you they wouldn't do anything. To me, at least. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 00:03, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

You can reply back here now, by the way. I just didn't really pay any attention to that 213 issue, that's it. I usually try to teach them things about Wikipedia and stuff, but I was busy, in real life, and trying to improve Curtis. I'll talk to them, even though I don't really know if I want to talk to them anymore. I feel somewhat used. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 00:07, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

It's not that I want you to talk to them now. I asked you why didn't you tell them about the policies when I was removing the unsourced material. Because they do asked you about that.

May I ask why you feel used?--Tasc0 00:15, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

They only asked me about reporting you, I said no, and about citing sources, and I told them how to cite sources and which sources would be appropriate. I feel used because, they used my "smart ass" comment as a way to make it look like you're trying to start some shit. And then, when I did somewhat bite (it could've been, worse, I could have not noticed the two accounts being different and then me swearing at you on your talk page for no reason), when I reported them at WP:ANI, you assumed I had something to do with it because I was the one they started to talk shit with. If I would've ignored their comments, none of this would've happened, although, you should be happy I did report them, that way, they didn't get to vandalize or something and have people think it was you. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 00:23, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, excuse me. You did not report them, you reported the "impersonator" account.

You could have tell them I was right about removing unsourced material, that's where I'm trying to go. Not how to cite sources. They just want to report me because I'm doing what the policies say. They know that the report will do nothing. That's why you/they created the impersonator account to somehow have a revenge.--Tasc0 00:38, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

The impersonator account was made by... them. I couldn't report them anyway, there was no way I would've known about them being the creators of the account so early. If you still don't get it, that I had nothing to do with this, then I'm done talking to you. Maybe they wanted revenge, but I didn't even care about the 213 shit, that's where it all started at. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 00:40, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

I do not know who made it and I don't want to make exeptions. That's why I put it like "you/them". I honestly don't know where did all this started but it's clear I warned them about the policies in the edit summary, and also I had no choice but to report the situation.

If, like you say, haven't still talked about the biographies and living persons policies, I think it would be great if you make them understand it.

I'm going to omit the personal attack you made to me for the second time. Any problem I have again with you I'm forced to report it.--Tasc0 00:47, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

OK. I'll talk to them, although I don't know how much I can help, since it actually got this far. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 00:52, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

By them, I mean I reported their account, which was actually him. I can't report him yet, there is still no actual proof it is him, he would have to admit it's him to be 100% sure it is him. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 14:34, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Yo, i've just seen all of this Tosco bullshit, and i have to tell you i've got nothing to do with it. Ok, it's obvious that me and you haven't really got on, but i've only been in like 2 conversations with you, and neither of them really got out of hand. Also i've never reverted any of your edits, so i dont see why i would go through all this crap, which could get me blocked, just to get one over you. Also in my opinion, i dont really think Ryda would have done this shit either, i mean he could of, but he doesnt seem the type to do this kind of shit. I also dont see why Dead Wrong would have anything do to with this, since you and him have never got into any real problems, and he has never done any kind of bullshit like this before. Lastly, we're not a "group", we just like the same music and help each other out with edits, thats it. So thats my view on the matter, you can believe me or just dismiss what i've said, but i swear i've nothing to do with. - Keep It Real - Real Compton G 14:55, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

OK, I've talked to Real Compton G (on MSN) about the BLP issues, and he will also talk to West Coast Ryda about those issues. I've also told him to stay out of trouble and to tell West Coast Ryda not to revert your edits without a good reason anymore. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 15:41, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Yo, lets put this "wiki-beef" bullshit behind us, i would welcome u 2 the project as i think that ur edits would be useful towards it, so wot do ya say ? - Keep It Real - Real Compton G 19:22, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm going to wait the project establish in Wikipedia. If I see it's going to the good path, then I may consider joining.

I also want to see if some of the members think they are the "ultimate emperor" of the project just because they started it. Thank you.--Tasc0 19:28, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Were u refering 2 me there ? well anyway if u do join then i think u'd b a big help - Keep It Real - Real Compton G 19:31, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

No, I wasn't. I wasn't refering to anyone individually. I think it's a good idea, at least for me, to wait how this project goes.--Tasc0 19:42, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok kool - Keep It Real - Real Compton G 19:45, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

I made a suggestion about the image.--Tasc0 21:06, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

What the hell is this?

Yes of course that's all. If you want to pursue this stupid attempt to impersonate you, the appropriate avenue is WP:RFCU. But I suggest that you ignore this and concentrate on other things. And User:Dead Wrong, I strongly suggest you disengage from this talk page -- Samir 00:07, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Will do. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 00:09, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

For Christ's sake. "Please do not start a new thread to response the one I created".

Isn't any log about the users IP addresses. For example, User:Tasc0 (127.0.0.1).--Tasc0 00:13, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Deleted articles list

Hi, I was just looking at your userpage when I noticed that you are linking the past deleted pages using their URL. For example on this page the 1st item on the list is listed using [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fly_(album) The Fly (album)] but it could be linked using [[The Fly (album)]]. Not sure if you knew, but just thought i'd point it out!. --¤ The-G-Unit-?oss ¤ 20:56, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

I know I can link the article in that way. But I don't wan't to "internal-link" the article because my subpage will appear on "What links here" of the deleted article.

By the way, I was trying to change the G-Unit project image with a proper font, but it turned out to big and I didn't feel liking doing it well so I just reverted it.--Tasc0 21:31, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

You think G-Unit are "Gay", dont really get on with hip hop editors, yet you are part of the Hip Hop WikiProject? --¤ The-G-Unit-?oss ¤ 16:13, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

What's your question? Because I don't understand what you're talking about. I never said that G-unit were gays. I think you're confused.--Tasc0 18:43, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Untitled by User:West Coast Ryda

Don't add that warning BS anymore. Stop acting like your owning wikipedia or etc.. and Please continue blanking pages. West Coast Ryda 20:41, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm acting like the guidelines say I should. I don't think I own any article here, that's why I accept releasing my contributions under the GFDL license.

If you continue adding unsourced material or removing warnings from your talk page I will report you again. Please follow the policies just like everybody else. Thank you.--Tasc0 20:45, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

1) please continue your work as the best editor in wikipedia to ever live. 2) don't add that warning again. 3) if i put the "false" information then you have the rights to put a warning in my talkpage and i wont remove it. Thank you West Coast Ryda 20:47, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

I really don't know what you're talking about. As the warning, I placed it because you kept adding unsourced material to the article 213 (group). That can be seen here. That's the date of today. I have warned you about this issue several times in the edit summary and I also reported the situation wich you replied in the report I did. That means you are aware of adding unsourced material.

You can't remove the warnings. Please stop.--Tasc0 20:52, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

U can't decide how my talkpage should look like. Anyways if you really think i was the one registering User talk:Tosco-0 then i can prove you here that it wasn't me but one of your wannabes. West Coast Ryda 20:56, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

I really don't care how it was. The warnings are to warn users about their edits. You can't remove them. You placed a warning in my talkpage I din't remove it, and I have to say I disagree with that warning. What I did was discuss it. Please stop, or I'm forced to report you and block you. Thank you.--Tasc0 21:00, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Remove my warning dont matter, i'm aware of what you are trying to tell. Because that warning is non-sense and should be posted for someone who blanks pages or removes content. I didn't do what a warning is deserved. I am adding stuff i think we should discuss about removing or not the material on the articles talkpage before we decide the final result. An addition, ok u warned me and i saw this IF i continue with do the same edit as u considered vandal then u have All Rights to report/warn me. Have a good day, Peace! West Coast Ryda 21:14, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

You've been warned. You continuously keep adding unsourced material. Now that I know you read the warning, my next step is to block you for violating the WP:BLP guidelines, if you keep having this behaviour of course. Thanks.--Tasc0 21:56, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

When did i personal attack you? and where. West Coast Ryda 21:17, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't want my talk page to be a place where you can all argue about this issue, if you guys still want to continue talking about "Tosco" and 213, do it somewhere else. Also, revealing someone else's e-mail address without their permission is not allowed. Unless I'm mistaken, he removed it from Real Compton G's talk page after he told him what his e-mail was. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho

Lol, as submiting the message in Wikipedia, everybody releases it under GFDL license. It's just a consequence that I found it in the history of certain talk page. I'm sorry if I caused any problem in your talk page, stewie_griffin_rulz.--Tasc0 22:11, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

I am not bothered to your edits anymore but u said i can't remove warnings. lol Click, nuff said. West Coast Ryda 17:05, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations, here's a cookie. You discovered it a day later. The reason I stopped reverting is because you can remove messages from your own talk page.--Tasc0 19:49, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Bangin' On Wax 2... The Saga Continues

Normally, capitalization variants are considered legitimate redirects, not implausible typos, as CSD R3 specifies. If you want this redirect deleted, you can nominate it at WP:RFD, but I have a feeling that it would be kept because it aids in accidental linking and is harmless. — TKD::Talk 00:12, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for concerning about my nomination. I nominated the article because the search will target the redirect. I know it's harmless, but I've seen redirects like this one being deleted. In a minute I'll post some examples. Thank you.--Tasc0 02:19, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok, here are some examples: Planet Of Da Apes (Planet of da Apes), Guerillas In Tha Mist (Guerillas in tha Mist), Tha Streetz Iz A Mutha (Tha Streetz Iz a Mutha), Mack 10 Presents Da Hood (Mack 10 Presents da Hood) and Gangstas Make The World Go Round (Gangstas Make the World Go Round).

I only can put these hip hop related articles because that's where I usually make edits. But you can clearly see where I'm trying to say.--Tasc0 02:39, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Interesting. I do have to say that I disagree with that interpretation of CSD R3 (and redirects are cheap enough performance-wise that going through them is not something to worry about. It could very well be that there is growing disagreement over the scope of speedy deletion for redirects, but, given that at least two other administrators have declined speedy deletion of this particular redirect, I would have to say that, at a minimum, it's not enough of a clear-cut case here to delete the redirect unilaterally, since speedy deletion is intended to be for uncontestable cases. — TKD::Talk 04:12, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Re: Image request

Ah so it was you who made the request. I'm a lot more active here than at Commons and I didn't see your message until a week later. So if you see any other images you like, it's best to leave a message here. Thanks. Spellcast 00:24, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I realized that you're not that active in Commons. I just wanted to request it in the right place at the time, now I know where to go.

Do you know what to do if there's no freely-licensed image avaiable, and it can't be created because, for example, the person died? Some admin deleted a Westside Connection photograph I uploaded, and I said that there's no freely-licensed image and the group doesn't exist any more.--Tasc0 02:19, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

If a band broke up and one of the members is not active, that should be enough to meet the fair use criteria as there's no free equivalent. The Destiny's Child image is a good example. Spellcast 02:31, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, all the members from Westside Connection are still active. But the group it's not.--Tasc0 02:34, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Same thing with Destiny's Child—all the members are active but the group is not. Mack 10 left the group so there's almost certainly not going to be a free image that anyone can shoot now. That should qualify for fair use criteria #1. Spellcast 02:48, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, I'm not that familiarized with the fair use criterias and that's why it got deleted. The image I uploaded was this one from this source. I'll let you upload it, if you want, of course. If not, I'll do it later.--Tasc0 02:54, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

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