Sunita Maclaren

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Notes in Rear Admiral (ret.) Kirpal Singh

Thank you for contributing this biography, but I believe you have misunderstood the use of the term "References" at Wikipedia. In many books, footnotes are used to provide the sort of interesting but not entirely relevant to the prose factoids that you have included in your article. This is fine for books, but references at Wikipedia are supposed to serve to verify the content of the article. Not a single reference you have provided in your biogarphy of Adm. Singh serves to verify any of the information contained therein. Biographies without corroborating references are subject to deletion. Please look at other biographies at Wikipedia to see the kinds of references that are needed. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 20:08, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

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Can I abandon this project as it has too many issues, such as COI?

Restored "notes"

I see that you have restored many of the notes that I had removed from your biography of your father. Permit me to point out, one by one, why they are unnecessary and, in fact, inappropriate:

1. You changed my link to the Ati Vishisht Seva Medal page to a reference that cited the same Wikipedia page. Wikipedia pages are never a valid source for other Wikipedia page for the very reason that anyone can edit Wikipedia, so the information may not be accurate or correct.
2. You restored a note reading "Rajasthan: Naya Shahar (Beawar):Once the financial capital of Merwara, Rajputana State. The most valuableexport of the region, according to the Rajputana Gazette, was pure cotton.According to its annals, production grew from 3,561 tons in 1881 to 8,471 tonsin 1891. The first cotton mill, the Edward Mill was established in 1906 andfollowed by the established by Mahalaxmi Textile Mill the year Kirpal Singh wasborn in 1925." Is the cotton production of Beawar relevant to your father's biography in any way whatsoever?
3. You restored a noted reading "Opium: Gertrude Marvin Williams, "India is thegreatest opium-producing country in the world. The revenue from export opiumalone in 1921-1922 was $4,500,000. Opium used in India is sold by the governmentat cost to the provincial governments, which reap the profit individually. Thegovernment profit on opium as a whole is about 40 per cent." The Nation,1925, Vol.121 No.3138". Again, I ask, how is this at all relevant to your father's biography? Yes, he was a member of the Opium Contraband Control Department, but quoting statistics about India's past opium production does not verify this fact, and is completely irrelevant.
4. You restored a note reading "1945Dufferin: This Ship wasnamed after the Marquess of Dulferin and Ava, Viceroy and Governor General ofIndia 1884-1988.She was built to replace the R.I.M.S. “Clive” (R.I.M.S hererefers to Royal India Marine Ship),and it was built at a cost of £ 193,625.OneExecutive Officer (Commander Pitford, R.l.M.) and two-Engineer Officers (ChiefEngineer Torry and Engineer Robertson) took a passage to India in the R.I.MSDufferin. (Cited by http://marineobserver.wordpress.com/2013/01/24) ". Your father served on the Dufferin. It is completely irrelevant how the ship came by its name.
5. You restored a note reading "Japan's Challenge to India into the Second World War: On March 23, 1942 a Japanese invasion force seized the Andaman and Nicobar islands, which lie 680kms off the coast of Calcutta and occupied them until the end of the War." India's role in World War II is well documented; it doesn't need amplification here. A citation that verifies that this event was a turning point in your father's life would be useful, but not this irrelevant trivia.
6. You restored a note reading "Indian Navy official website (source: Indiannavy.nic.in)During the Second World War, the Royal Indian Navy grew from 114 officers in 1939 to 3014 officers in 1945. After the partition of the Navy in 1947, the Navy was downsized to 672 officers". How is the number of officers in the Indian Navy at all relevant here?
7. You restored a note reading "Rajaji and Gandhi, Page 9, 1978, B.K.AhluwaliaC. Rajagopalachari was also the head of the Indian Congress Party, the Governor of West Bengal and the Home Minister of India." I have wikilinked to Rajagopalachari's biography; interested readers can click through to find out all about him. Adding this information to the footnote just makes it appear you are trying to make your father notable by association.
8. You restored a note reading "Naval Aviation: A World History, Page28, 1985, Adhar Kumar Chatterjee I.N.S.Vikrant: formerly HMS Hercules (R49) played a key role in enforcing the naval blockade on East Pakistan during the Indo-Pakistan War of 1971. (Source:Wikipedia)". There is already a Wikipedia article (to which I had linked) about the Vikrant; citing a source that cites back to Wikipedia does not expand on the available information.

I understand that you want your father's biography to look impressive, with lots of footnotes, but peppering it with trivia and irrelevancies is not the answer. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 19:34, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

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