Smikefoley

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Proposed deletion of MystiCon

The article MystiCon has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Non-notable sci-fi convention. No press coverage or other independent indications of notability.

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 02:44, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of MystiCon for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article MystiCon is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MystiCon until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 01:55, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

April 2011

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add soapboxing, promotional or advertising material to Wikipedia, as you did at MystiCon, you may be blocked from editing. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 20:12, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Again with the attacking. Is this a personal grudge you have against me? You are very hateful in your speech to me and I don't even know who you are

It is part of a standardized, progressively harsher series of warnings to those who seek to use Wikipedia for promotional purposes. Editors and admins wage a constant battle with those who post promotional articles, often repeatedly. Wikipedia maintains a firm stand against spam and self-promotion. It is patently obvious that you are simply promoting your sci-fi convention, despite the fact that it does not meet our notability standards. So no, it is not personal. Please read the page at this link to see why we're complaining so much. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 01:31, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

It is personal when you're angry at someone else and taking it out on a page and myself, which you are doing and you are deliberately ignoring what I've been saying for hours now. You've already had another editor point out that it does meet it, but you've continued to argue the point and because of someone else that's angered you. This isn't being neutral or fair, not to mention is making it personal - for you. I respectfully ask that you leave the decision to someone that is not embroiled in a fight the way you are. WP doesn't need things being deleted or fought about because one person is angry at another. An impartial person has already spoken and I trust his judgment at this point than yours. No offense intended but it's the way things are done in the professional world. It's why lawyers, police officers and lawyers cannot work in or judge in instances; because they aren't impartial with the situation involved. smikefoley (Talk to me) coffee is the real drink of the gods! (talk) 02:32, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

I'm not the least bit angry about this. I have no personal feelings at all toward you or the event. I am merely the editor who was working on new-page patrol when your article was created, and as a screener I deemed that the event described did not meet notability standards that apply to all articles. That's a large part of what I and other editors do here, to keep unsuitable articles from being posted (many of which are pure vandalism or articles about garage bands formed last week). You seem to be equating a persistent attempt to enforce longstanding Wikipedia policies about self-promotion and lack of notability with anger or some other emotion. That simply isn't the case. Your article seeks to promote MystiCon, and that just isn't allowed by policy (click here). And the event does not meet notability standards. It's that simple. I don't know how else to explain it to you. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 03:31, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Your recent edits

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This is your last warning; the next time you make personal attacks on other people, as you did at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MystiCon, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Your accusations of a given emotional state are not only factually incorrect, they have now risen to the level of a personal attack, which is specifically prohibited by Wikipedia and warned by using this standardized template.. It is preposterous to consider that an editor whose editing history can be measured in hours can ascribe motives and emotions to an editor with nearly six years experience at Wikipedia, especially when the new editor obviously has a very poor concept of the rules and regulations of Wikipedia. Please cease and desist accusing me of any emotional state, or you will be at risk of being blocked from editing. Not my rules, but Wikipedia's. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 05:24, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Please don't judge the community by a bad deletion discussion

Hey I noticed the problems that you have been having with the deletion discussion about MystiCon. Unfortunately, new articles are not really the best way to figure out how the community works, because there are people that make new content jump through more community hoops than is really necessary to keep out advertising on Wikipedia. Please don't be discouraged, instead I would suggest trying to contribute to other articles, and coming back to MystiCon when you have a little more experience under your belt. FYI, I am going to give a keep vote. If you need any help, I am more than welcome to give advice, but I strongly suggest that you explore other parts of the community, Sadads (talk) 11:40, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Reply I'm not judging WP by the deletion.. I can't call it a discussion anymore because it's disintegrated beyond that. I'm leaving WP because of the constant attack I'm being put under. No one is paying attention to what say, they are judging me due to something else that's angered them - and they will NOT leave me alone and insists on judging my work when they are very obviously judging with emotional influence. I hope to never ever hear from that person again, even as she continues to jab and tosses threats at me. No thanks. Good luck but feel free to delete the page. I won't bother WP again.

You must remember, we have a problem here with people who think Wikipedia is a method of publicizing their con, their garage band, their burger bar, whatever. As a result, we are pretty merciless about any effort to misuse us as a venue for advertising. The perception of some editors is that you aren't here to contribute to Wikipedia as a reference project, but rather solely to publicize MystiCon. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:35, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

And that's really been my biggest problem with the article — self-promotion, more than notability, though both are at issue. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 21:14, 5 April 2011 (UTC)