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Your image

See User_talk:R3m0t#Image_deletion. r3m0t ^talk 17:25, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Don't be offended...

...Woohookitty and I are friends. It was ironic. · Katefan0^(scribble)/mrp 21:55, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Not at all; no way you could've known, and anyway, inflections are hard to make out sometimes in this medium! Have fun and let me know if you need any help around here. · Katefan0^(scribble)/mrp 22:17, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Please reconsider!

Hi, why on earth do you want Thornton's Bookshop speedy-deletd? You can't be serious! <KF> 00:27, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

User page vandalism

Thank you for rescuing my user page. If the rate of it being vandalised stays the way it is, I should soon break a record ;) Cyberevil 14:42, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

List of people from Cornwall

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, adding content without citing a reliable source, as you did to List of people from Cornwall, is not consistent with our policy of verifiability. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you are familiar with Wikipedia:Citing sources, please take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. --Jza84 |  Talk  17:00, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Please do not add content without citing verifiable and reliable sources, as you did to List of people from Cornwall. Before making any potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. --Jza84 |  Talk  17:06, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Please do not add unsourced or original content, as you did to List of people from Cornwall. Doing so violates Wikipedia's verifiability policy. If you continue to do so, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. --Jza84 |  Talk  17:17, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

• Jza84, please backpedal on this - many of his additions are fine, and if you weren't too lazy to actually look at th elinked articles you would see that there are sources. DuncanHill (talk) 17:24, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Don't you mean if Sbz5809 was too lazy to add sources? Every article or list is a stand alone piece of work. Wikipedia is not a reliable source. --Jza84 |  Talk  17:34, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

If a source is acceptable on one page, why is it not acceptable on another? Is there some arcane requirement for sources of which I'm unaware? Sbz5809 (talk) 19:04, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

I think that Jza84's point was that sources are particularly essential for mentions of living people, and they are also in principle required in each case for dead people as well, in each separate article (as WP itself is not a reliable source). I've commented elsewhere that I don't think he made the point to you as calmly as he might have done! Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:43, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

They're standard messages, as calm as any other standard message sent in the history of Wikipedia.

Ghmyrtle's assumption is completely wrong, and he's been notified on his talk page about citing sources to lists of people himself. My concern is outlined in the messages above about not citing your sources, but more specifically WP:BURDEN - it is explicit that sources must be present in "the article" you're adding content to, not a different article. Indeed, I may say Richard Dawkins was born in Nairobi on his article, without a source, then insist to everyone that that must go check the Nairobi article for verification. This is not good practice. Indeed, it's like storing every single reference on a single page and directing our readers to that is it not? --Jza84 |  Talk  23:26, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

No, it really isn't; it's like saying "Mick Fleetwood is from Cornwall; here's a link to a page that shows (directly or indirectly) that he's from Cornwall".

Every person I added to the list was linked to his own page. Where that page did not have a link to an external source, I included one in the list; where it did, I omitted one, for the simple reason that it was already there on the person's page. Then you come along, delete my additions and threaten to block me. "Please help improve this article by expanding it." That's what I was doing. Sbz5809 (talk) 11:45, 16 September 2009 (UTC)