User talk:Samwilson/Archive 3

Template parameters wizard

hi.

so i looked at User:Samwilson/TemplateWizard.js, and i must admit i'm a bit disappointed.

background

a wizard with similar functionality operates on hewiki for the last 6 years or so (we implemented it before templatedata, so originally it worked somewhat differently - it used metadata in a separate subpage of the template page, with hardcoded name, namely template:<templatename>/Parameters, and if such page did not exist, it extracted the parameter list from the template page itself).

this wizard is available on enwiki via "user scripts" User:קיפודנחש/TemplateParamWizard.js, and is currently installed by ~60 users.

the version on enwiki (linked above) is old - it's the version that predated templatedata, and since no template on enwiki has the subpage with metadata, it's only works in the bare-bone mode of extracting the parameters from the template, with no knowledge of type, "required", "obsolete", aliases, etc., supported by the old subpage and by templatedata

the version installed on hewiki (it's a default gadget there) was ported to use templatedata rather than the obsolete proprietary subpage originally engineered (again - it predates templatedata, hence the discrepancy), so it knows about "required" and such.

it would have been nice to get some recognition, but this is not the reason i said i'm disappointed: the reason i'm disappointed is that the new wizard is a single-shot thing: you can't use it to modify a template already existing on the page - you have to start from scratch every time. our experience on hewiki is that editing a template already existing on the page is much more common operation than inserting a new one.

since the wizard is using the "texselection" plugin anyway, teaching it to pick-up the selected text in the editor should be pretty straightforward. from there, it's a straight line to recognize the template and pre-populating the fields on the form, just like our veteran wizard on hewiki (and here) does.

i encourage you to try the "good old" wizard, and note how it behaves when the user wants to edit an existing template: you have to select the template you want to edit (select everything from the first {{ to the last }}, and click the {{}} icon), and the wizard identifies the correct template, and populates the existing fields.

now, there's no argument that the new wizard looks better, and understands all kind of stuff the old one does not, but i wish the new one would pick some pages out of the old one's behavior, specifically:

• allow editing of existing template, as described above
• for templates which do not have tempaltedata, collect the parameter list from the template page itself.

note that the script linked above is old and rusty - the more current code is in he:Mediawiki:Gadget-TemplateParamWizard.js, which consumes templatedata (if exists), and still distills the parameters from the template page when no templatedata exists for this template.

hopefully these gaps will be closed soon, so we can retire our long-in-the-tooth wizard.

thanks for the nice work,

tl;dr

please teach template wizard to edit pre-existing template on page by selecting it before clicking the puzzle icon; please teach template wizard to function even when templatedata is absent.

peace - קיפודנחש (aka kipod) (talk) 23:20, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

• I suggest to open a subtask for phab:T186653 for each missing feature, so it will be easier to follow up.
• Regarding the guessing of templatedata based on the template code, please see phab:T54581 - it even have an example patch how it could work in the backend.

Eran (talk) 07:31, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

@קיפודנחש: The TemplateParamWizard gadget looks really good. Sorry it was overlooked in the run-up to developing the new TemplateWizard! I'm sure the latter will learn from it though. And I think both ideas are great, and hope that we can get them working in TemplateWizard. Guessing parameter names where there's no templatedata might be possible, although I think that belongs in TemplateData really. The whole topic of editing existing template text is a bit more involved, because it basically means parsing the wikitext — although, as you say, it's already being done in TemplateParamWizard (and the PageForms extension for that matter), so maybe we can have a sort of limited-version of it. But yes, do add tickets for each feature you want! They may not be done in the first-round release, but it's still good to have them on the todo list. Thanks! Sam Wilson 02:08, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Sorry to shirk, but i know for a fact that itf youll write the ticket it will be better for the ticket, and beter for chances of them acutally acted upon. Could you please create the tickets? Peace ' קיפודנחש (aka kipod) (talk) 02:24, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

@קיפודנחש: Sure! Not shirking at all. :-) See phab:T191756 for no-templatedata, and phab:T191757 for editing existing templates. Feel free to weigh in and clarify either. Thanks. :) Sam Wilson 02:48, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Sweet. Thanks. קיפודנחש (aka kipod) (talk) 03:35, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Facto Post – Issue 11 – 9 April 2018

Facto Post – Issue 11 – 9 April 2018 The 100 Skins of the Onion Open Citations Month, with its eminently guessable hashtag, is upon us. We should be utterly grateful that in the past 12 months, so much data on which papers cite which other papers has been made open, and that Wikidata is playing its part in hosting it as "cites" statements. At the time of writing, there are 15.3M Wikidata items that can do that. Pulling back to look at open access papers in the large, though, there is is less reason for celebration. Access in theory does not yet equate to practical access. A recent LSE IMPACT blogpost puts that issue down to "heterogeneity". A useful euphemism to save us from thinking that the whole concept doesn't fall into the realm of the oxymoron. Some home truths: aggregation is not content management, if it falls short on reusability. The PDF file format is wedded to how humans read documents, not how machines ingest them. The salami-slicer is our friend in the current downloading of open access papers, but for a better metaphor, think about skinning an onion, laboriously, 100 times with diminishing returns. There are of the order of 100 major publisher sites hosting open access papers, and the predominant offer there is still a PDF. Red onion cross section From the discoverability angle, Wikidata's bibliographic resources combined with the SPARQL query are superior in principle, by far, to existing keyword searches run over papers. Open access content should be managed into consistent HTML, something that is currently strenuous. The good news, such as it is, would be that much of it is already in XML. The organisational problem of removing further skins from the onion, with sensible prioritisation, is certainly not insuperable. The CORE group (the bloggers in the LSE posting) has some answers, but actually not all that is needed for the text and data mining purposes they highlight. The long tail, or in other words the onion heart when it has become fiddly beyond patience to skin, does call for a pis aller. But the real knack is to do more between the XML and the heart. Links Crossref as a new source of citation data: A comparison with Web of Science and Scopus, CWTS blogpost 17 January 2018, Nees Jan van Eck, Ludo Waltman, Vincent Larivière, Cassidy Sugimoto Citations with identifiers in Wikipedia, figshare dataset Making women more visible online—with Wikidata tools!, Wikimedia blogpost 29 March 2018 by Sandra Fauconnier Village pump discussion, Turn on mapframe? We’re ready if you are reaches conclusions The Power of the Wikimedia Movement beyond Wikimedia, Forbes 28 March 2018, Michael Bernick Tracing stolen bitcoin, blogpost 26 March 2018 by Ross J. Anderson To subscribe to Facto Post go to Wikipedia:Facto Post mailing list. For the ways to unsubscribe, see below. Editor Charles Matthews, for ContentMine. Please leave feedback for him. Back numbers are here. Reminder: WikiFactMine pages on Wikidata are at WD:WFM. If you wish to receive no further issues of Facto Post, please remove your name from our mailing list. Alternatively, to opt out of all massmessage mailings, you may add Category:Wikipedians who opt out of message delivery to your user talk page. Newsletter delivered by MediaWiki message delivery

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:25, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

wow

This geezer was born at the age of 117 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Slessor - which parameter has been completely -'ed up ? JarrahTree

ta for that JarrahTree 05:14, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Navigation templates for "described in year" categories

Hi, it's very useful to add the {{Category in year}} navigation template to "described in year" categories, as you did in this edit. However, the template automatically adds the parent category, in this case Category:Fish described in the 20th century, so if it's already present, you should remove it to avoid duplication.

A separate issue is what the year parent category should be. When I looked through all the "Fish described in YEAR" categories, I found that overall about 20-30% seemed to be in "Vertebrates described in YEAR" with most in "Animals described in YEAR". For consistency, I've been fixing them all to the most common, i.e. "Animals".

You can use {{Category in year}} to add both parent categories automatically. For example

{{Category in year
| year = 1949
| cat = Fish described in
| parentcat = Fish described in the 20th century
| parentyrcat = Animals described in
}}

automatically adds Category:Fish described in the 20th century and Category:Animals described in 1949. Peter coxhead (talk) 06:40, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

@Peter coxhead: Thanks for the info! Makes sense. I was following a slightly off example I think. Sam Wilson 22:18, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

yup, indeed JarrahTree 22:21, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

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Two things

Dear Sam @Samwilson:.

Polygons in maps

I note that when one presses the coordinates at the top of the article on Bolzano, one gets the full polygon for Trentino (??) in addition to the nicely scaled map. I implemented a similar map in Kensington Bushland Reserve, but the linked wikidata item contains just a single coordinate allowing the map to be appropriately centred. My question is: How does one insert an appropriate polygon?

@MargaretRDonald: For geometries to appear in the maps, the Wikidata ID should be added to OpenStreetMap (e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/47207 is Bolzano). I've done this for Kensington Bushland: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/36405110 and so the Wikimedia maps should update in a day or two. Sam Wilson 01:15, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, @Samwilson:. I now see your lovely set of polygons on the map. However, the area you have delineated is not quite right. You have shown the Jirdarup precinct which is the unit under which the Town of Victoria Park is managing them, which consists of three areas: George Street Reserve (park made over contaminated landfill), Kensington Bushland Reserve (significant remnant Banksia woodland) and Kent Street Sand Pit. Maps which show Kensington Bushland as opposed to this somewhat frightening management area are given in Eco Logical Australia 2017. Kensington Bushland Management Plan. Prepared for Town of Victoria Park.’ (see e.g., p.6) MargaretRDonald (talk) 23:00, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Just checked out your link. (Very nice) But I am not yet comfortable about modifying it, myself. MargaretRDonald (talk) 23:03, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

One more question. How does the maplink grab the appropriate feature from openMap? MargaretRDonald (talk) 00:13, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

@MargaretRDonald: ah, those maps make it more obvious; I'll update OSM. As for the link: it's the wikidata key on the OSM side that does it. It's also possible to add an 'OSM relation ID' statement to Wikidata, but that's just for documentation purposes really, and isn't used to make the maps. If you have other features you want linked from OSM, let me know, I'm happy to edit over there. Sam Wilson 00:52, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, Sam for your new polygons. Two questions/comments: I don't think the block of land to the north-west of the Kensington Bushland Reserve is a school, (Can't check at the moment - not in WA). cAnd the chunk of land adjacent to the PCYC is not shown in the management document as part of the bushland, but I believe it is remnant bushland. One would have to check the surveyed lots for the Town of Victoria park? Cheers and thanks again, MargaretRDonald (talk) 21:55, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

@Samwilson: Hi, Sam. I notice the Goodwill, the Story & the Eleanor Schonell Bridges are defined on open street map, but only the Goodwill shows up as a structure on the maplink. See Goodwill Bridge, Story Bridge and Eleanor Schonell Bridge. I am hoping yet again you can fix this for me (and also the map for Kensington Bushland. Regards, MargaretRDonald (talk) 23:27, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

@MargaretRDonald: The other two bridges didn't have wikidata tags. I've added them (and in the case of Eleanor Schonell Bridge, added the bridge's outline), so they should appear here in a day or two. If you find more missing like this, you might want to add 'notes' to the OSM map, e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/new#map=19/-27.49777/153.02051&layers=N — you don't even have to log in. Notes are good, because they'll get the attention of local mappers, who are more able to add the right info. (Talking of which, I'm hoping to get out to Kensington for some ground truthing next week! Will take lots of photos and sort out the boundary as best I can.) Sam Wilson 06:07, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

@Samwilson: Thanks, Sam. It's slowly coming good after the devastating fire, and the council has done a lot of planting in the George Street Reserve, as part of maintaining the continuity but what bothers me is that George Street is wholly artificial, while the bushland has (had) been wholly natural, and they are being managed as part of the one project. Ah well. I hope you like it. It also has some splendid Christmas trees. Have fun. MargaretRDonald (talk) 20:37, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Something strange

Hi Sam. I just did an edit on Kensington Bushland and when I previewed the edit, your new map came up in the preview, but when I published the edit, the old map (with the George St Reserve & the Kent street sand pit) still showed. It would be nice to see your latest version of the map. What is happening? MargaretRDonald (talk) 00:07, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks {ping|Samwilson}} this is now coming up correctly, but the map still needs editing. See bits from a few days ago in User talk:Samwilson#Polygons in maps. MargaretRDonald (talk) 02:53, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Enabling red categories in the commons

When I upload images in commons, I frequently tag them with categories which do not exist. Thus, for example, the images in the gallery of Kensington Bushland Reserve are all tagged as Category:Kensington Bushland. However, this category, being red, fails to link to the article ... How do I enable new categories?

Thanks, MargaretRDonald (talk) 00:22, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

@MargaretRDonald: Categories are just like any other pages: if there's a red link, you can click on it and it'll take you to edit that category page, where you can add whatever you like (including more categories). If the page doesn't appear in the new category immediately, just refresh the page (it can sometimes take a few moments). Sam Wilson 01:15, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Misnamed category page requiring deletion

Hi Sam. I mistakenly created Category:Macrozamia riedlii in the commons. It needs to be deleted (the correct category existed and is Category:Macrozamia riedlei (Well done, Margaret!) I was hoping you might delete it for me, or tell me how to. Thanks, MargaretRDonald (talk) 23:45, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

@MargaretRDonald: Done. It's usually a matter of recategorising any files, and then putting the {{category redirect}} template on the mis-speled name. If you want it deleted, put {{delete}} on it, but I think for this a redirect is fine. Sam Wilson 00:25, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, @Samwilson: An elegant solution. MargaretRDonald (talk) 02:54, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

OTRS

Hi @Samwilson:. As I was roving around, I came upon an image taken from a journal (PLOS). The licensing (CC2.5) statement said that permission had been granted by the copyright holder for the image to be reproduced (and modified) under a CC2.5 licence. The authentication provided was OTRS. If I were to write to an original copyright holder and get a CC2.5 permission, how would I then go about getting the OTRS certification which would allow the image to stay in commons? (This would be immensely helpful.) MargaretRDonald (talk) 22:29, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

the stairs poem

yesterday I met a man on the stairs he wasnt there he wasnt there today either

damned if I can remember the author or the proper phrasing JarrahTree 04:57, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: Do you mean Antigonish (poem)? "As I was going up the stair / I met a man who wasn't there! / He wasn't there again today, / Oh how I wish he'd go away!" Sam Wilson 05:34, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

got it! thats it JarrahTree 05:43, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Was it A.A.Milne? MargaretRDonald (talk) 04:43, 3 September 2018 (UTC) Clearly, I have always been wrong in thinking it was Milne... MargaretRDonald (talk) 04:45, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

I always thought it was lear and something related to [1] nonsense by him JarrahTree 05:40, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

duplicate (requiring a merge or delete)

Hi @SamWilson: Hoping you can help me. I inadvertently created Q56642271 (Homoranthus prolixus) by initially clicking on red. However, Q15367509 (Homoranthus prolixus) also exists. Would it be possible to merge or delete the second entry, Q56642271? Thanks, MargaretRDonald (talk) 21:49, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

@MargaretRDonald: Done. It mostly looks fine, but there's now IPNI plant IDs (I think there's only meant to be one?). Sam Wilson 23:18, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

@Samwilson: Thanks, Sam. The two different IPNI codes are both correct, so I didn't bother to delete the second. (The first appears in the taxonbar..) Cheers, MargaretRDonald (talk) 08:21, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

searching wikipedia

Hi @Samwilson:. I have been trying to search wikipedia for photographs inserted as "Broadhurst, William Henry" so that I can link them to an article I may write on William Henry Broadhurst. The search has been frustrating because it seems that the search function is satisfied when any of the apparent words in the search string are found, rather than all and in that order. This results in a mountain of dross which I have not been prepared to sift through. (I turned to Google but it was almost as frustrating) Does it make sense to offer an advanced search of some kind in Wikipedia? Or would it cause problems? Please offer some thoughts. MargaretRDonald (talk) 22:27, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

adding wikidata item to OSM maps

Hi {{ping}Samwilson}} Is there some reason why I can no longer add wikidata items to OSM polygons? In particular, I have amended Katoomba & Cowra to allow the use of polygon data, but have been unable (trying for the last two days) to add the wikidata tag to the OSM maps. MargaretRDonald (talk) 02:40, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

@MargaretRDonald: Which OSM item were you adding the Wikidata ID to? The relation doesn't have one: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5496187 and so maybe it was on a different one. It's the link from the OSM end that does the magic, not the 'OSM relation ID' property in Wikidata. Sam Wilson 09:51, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

@MargaretRDonald: I've updated those two on OSM; the geometry should make its way over here forthwith. Sam Wilson 10:00, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

@Samwilson: Thanks for that (I was wondering why I couldn't, because I have been able to do precisely put the link in the OSN map in the past(?)....) Thanks, again. MargaretRDonald (talk) 12:26, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

@MargaretRDonald: Maybe in the past the OSM end happened to already have been done. There are about 100,000 I think (the number is growing now that we can do this easy linking into Wikipedias). Ping me any time if you want me to do and OSM stuff. Sam Wilson 00:22, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

@Samwilson: Thanks, Sam. Cheers, MargaretRDonald (talk) 21:04, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

submarine jokes aside

inneresting JarrahTree 09:41, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

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A problem in the commons

Hi @SamWilson: I was in the commons trying to tidy up my contributions when I came uponCommons:Category:Thysanotus, which mixed both animals and plants. I was hoping you might be able to sort it out or know someone who can and will. MargaretRDonald (talk) 20:21, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

@MargaretRDonald: It looks like commons:Category:Thysanotus is for the plants and commons:Category:Thysanotus (animalia) is for the beetles. There's a Wikidata item for each category and for each genus. I've added sitelinks. I don't know if {{Wikidata Infobox}} is used for species categories, so I didn't add them. I couldn't find any files or subcats of commons:Category:Thysanotus that are actually the beetle (but rather far outside my usual areas with this stuff, so I might not be looking correctly!). —Sam Wilson 01:11, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, @SamWilson: MargaretRDonald (talk) 00:44, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

weirdness

originally there was the south coast of western australia - the article and the category

then there were coasts of regions (great southern, goldfields esperance) (departed pdfpdf and mitch had fun with these from memory)

but no subsequent qualification by either creating a disambiguation - which you cannot do with cats but if there were articles....

the base article was - South_coast_of_Western_Australia but there is not an article for the regional coasts

and the south coast specified from leeuwin to eucla - but the regional breakup cats arent very specific where they start and end (grrr)

cat - grrr - but windy harbour technically is neither great southern or south west in any sense... must be wednesday

why I would like help making more accurate region maps (please please) South_West_(Western_Australia) does have windy harbour!

JarrahTree 03:02, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Flickr and CC-BY-SA (2.0-4.0 whatever)

Hi Sam. I would like to license all my (public) photos on Flickr (approx 12,000) as CC-BY-SA 2.0 (Flickr's interpretation of "Attribution-Share Alike"), but even doing this in batches is not a task I wish to embark on. Is there some global thing which will do this for me? MargaretRDonald (talk) 22:03, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

@MargaretRDonald: I'm not sure, other than batches in Organizer. Your best bet might be to submit a support ticket and ask them to do it for you. Other than that, I could look at adding such a feature to toolforge:flickrdash, it seems like a nice thing to have. I take it you've since changed your default license and this is for older uploads? Sam Wilson 00:26, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, Sam. I have emailed Flickr for help. But yes it would be great if both on Flickr and the commons one could license all one's photos in perpetuity, which would mean that the photos could be downloaded by anyone if they wished. (I'll let you know the outcome of my shout for help on Flickr.)MargaretRDonald (talk) 01:57, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Flickr don't seem to have a clue. (They suggested I change the licences one by one or in batches!). So I am hoping you might go ahead with your toolforge:flickrdash suggestion. MargaretRDonald (talk) 20:37, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Noongar Project

Hi @Samwilson:. I am hoping you can construct a template for Wikipedia:WikiProject Noongar which summarises all the articles whose talk page lists them as belonging to the Noongar project, in the same way that Wikipedia:WikiProject Western Australia does. For me it is one of the more useful features of a project page. Cheers, and thanks for all your help. MargaretRDonald (talk) 23:40, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

@MargaretRDonald: I'm not quite sure of the process I'm afraid. I think the stats tables are updated by User:WP 1.0 bot and it has some instructions that might be of use. The seems also to be something lacking in the WikiProject banner definition, because Noongar is not appearing in Special:PageAssessments. —Sam Wilson 07:36, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

internal linking to entries within a table

I am trying to write an additional article on Ferdinand von Mueller and I would dearly like the elements in the table in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MargaretRDonald/sandbox/Mueller%27s_female_collectors to be able to be linked to. I could write an article about Mary Ann McHard, but I would prefer her story to be part of the larger story of all the collectors (who were not artists or otherwise important people) who responded to Mueller's advertisement and sent their gatherings to him for many years, while working in the bush on their land. (Obviously I could make each woman a section and link that way but I would like to use a table. (Is it doable using a table?) MargaretRDonald (talk) 00:28, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

@MargaretRDonald: Yes, you can create a link to any place in a page by using the {{anchor}} template. For example, if the first cell was {{anchor|adams-miss}}'''Adams''', (Miss) (fl. 1889) then you'd link to it with User:MargaretRDonald/sandbox/Mueller's_female_collectors#adams-miss. You can make the labels whatever you want as long as they don't contain any of these characters: "#|=.

One thing to keep in mind with tables is that they might not display as well on mobile. You could probably set up a template to use for each row, so display could be tweaked more easily and with greater consistency. Sam Wilson 00:36, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, @Samwilson:. MargaretRDonald (talk) 00:39, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

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Sam the man,
Have a great 2020 and thanks for your continued contributions to Wikipedia.

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Sigh a leap year and all JarrahTree 03:04, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

West Australian Project Editor of the month - March 2020

Hi Samwilson, by the evidence at [2] - you are the West Australian editor of the Month of March 2020 - [3] Thank you for your effort for producing such excellent work, in improving the content of the project with good application of the all the categorisation and project tagging not requiring any extra work. In these very strange times that we live, your work is inspiring in helping with making the Western Australia project a better place to work... JarrahTree 06:10, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Problems publishing an edit in Wikimedia commons

Hi Sam. I am wondering if you might have some thoughts as to why I can apparently edit source in Wikimedia commons, but no longer publish my changes. (I can upload. But when I edit a category or a file description I cannot publish the changes.) At the moment, I think it may have to do with two new "security" products just purchased from Avast, and am planning on getting rid of them. Might this be the reason? (I seem to be able to edit elsewhere.) MargaretRDonald (talk) 04:31, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

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invite

Greetings

It is noted that you edit in the rarefied space of content about Perth, Western Australia - it is thought you might be in Perth - and be able to possibly meet up

You maybe interested in some events coming up in the near future - an opportunity to meet fellow Wikipedians, as well as being involved in: -

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This Saturday - 14th August 2021

Wikipedia Annual conference - known as Wikimania

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/71

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In September -

10th Anniversary of the Fremantle photo work:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/72

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Both events also tie in with the extended 20th Birthday of wikipedia -

Celebrated in limited manner last Sunday:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/70

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Please feel free to forward to others if they have been missed...

Any queries - please do not hesitate to contact for more details:

User:Bahnfrend User:SamWilson JarrahTree 07:43, 10 August 2021 (UTC)