User talk:SameStruggle/Archive 2

Latest comment: 9 years ago by Epeefleche in topic Ownership; tags

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Hello, SameStruggle. You have new messages at Kudpung's talk page.
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Hello, SameStruggle. You have new messages at Kudpung's talk page.
Message added 03:50, 27 July 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

PS - and Sanki King didn't get deleted after all. Nothing to worry about. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:51, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

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Your page still lacks reliable sources, and "Super hip-hopper" is still a meaningless term, inventing a poorly defined superlative does not a title make. Surely one would need to have released a charted single or album to even approach the title of "master of hip-hop"? Address these issues before attacking others. Are you Sanki King or his friend? If you have a close connection to the subject you should declare this. Gareth E Kegg (talk) 23:20, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

My page lacks resources because the time I was adding the resources you put up that banner on my page and I lost 2 hours of editing. Its polite to first message the editor that there is some problem with the article that should be edited. Go to the user page of the person who has commented above your comment "Kudpung", this guy watches my page ok so dont be over smart and ruin my stuff for no reason. You clearly have NO knowledge of Hip Hop, do not argue with me go and read KRS ONE's book Gospel Of Hip Hop. You are no one to point a finger at a word when you have no knowledge about the history of its birth. Thanks - SameStruggle (talk) 23:24, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit the page in your sandbox, that way you don't have to worry about it being edited in real time. Please stop being so rude, it doesn't require a musicologist to google "super hip hopper" [1] and find that the only person who uses this made up term is King himself. Do you have a connection to the subject of this article? Gareth E Kegg (talk) 01:09, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

I am being rude because of your immature attitude and for changing the Sanki King page without telling me at all. The term Hip Hopper has recently originated a few years ago in USA and its used in the Hip Hop communities in USA, again, your lack of knowledge. Everything does not have to be on the Internet to prove that it exists. Call any hip hop related person in California and ask them who is Caddy One? He is the first Super Hip Hopper in the West Coast, he does charity works there, he is a motivational speaker about Hip Hop and he is also a friend of Sanki. He is famous in California. If I have a connection with Sanki or not, does not changes anything because the references on the article are not from FACEBOOK or TWITTER, they are from well known newspapers. SameStruggle (talk) 01:24, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

I am well aware of hip hop, I love it, in fact. Hip Hop is EXTREMELY well documented on the internet, perhaps more so than any other genre. The fact that the term "Super hip hopper" does not exist outside the bounds of Sanki King or a video on youtube suggests that is is a meaningless epithet. Can you find a notable hip hop critic or writer that uses this term? Or find it in googlebooks? Infact, the article and none of the citations make any further mention of his musical prowess. No mixtapes? No singles? No albums? How can we say he is a hip hop artist?

I appreciate how much work you have put into this article, but we should not feel that we "own" any article on Wikipedia. You should declare wether you have a personal connection with Sanki, it could compromise your neutrality. Gareth E Kegg (talk) 21:06, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Excuse me? Hip Hop Artist? Where is it mentioned that Sanki is a Hip Hop Artist? There is no such thing as a Hip Hop Artist, its RAP ARTIST. And according to you "I am well aware of hip hop, I love it, in fact. Hip Hop is EXTREMELY well documented on the internet, perhaps more so than any other genre." But you dont know about the elements of Hip Hop? Kindly read these http://hiphopmuseum.org/ [2] [3] [4] SameStruggle (talk) 21:15, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

And I already said that I am not using the video as a reference, just wanted to show you that there is someone by the name CADDY ONE who exists and that I am not lying about the Super Hip hopper term being a new term in the american hip hop communities, thats it, nothing more than that. SameStruggle (talk) 21:18, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

A DJ is a hip hop artist, An emcee or rapper is a hip hop artist (hip hop artist does not mean RAPPER), A Bboy is a hip hop artist, A beat boxer is a hip hop artist. SameStruggle (talk) 21:24, 6 August 2012 (UTC)


SOURCE - WIKIPEDIA - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip_hop_artist Hip hop music, also called hip-hop,[1][2] rap music[2][3][4] or hip-hop music,[2][5] is a musical genre consisting of a stylized rhythmic music that commonly accompanies rapping, a rhythmic and rhyming speech that is chanted.[2] """""""""It developed as part of hip hop culture, a subculture defined by four key stylistic elements: MCing/rapping, DJing/scratching, breaking/dancing, and graffiti writing.""""""""[6][7][8] Other elements include sampling (or synthesis), and beatboxing.

While often used to refer to rapping, "hip hop" more properly denotes the practice of the entire subculture.[9][10] The term hip hop music is sometimes used synonymously with the term rap music,[2][5] though rapping is not a required component of hip hop music; the genre may also incorporate other elements of hip hop culture, including DJing and scratching, beatboxing, and instrumental tracks.[11][12] SameStruggle (talk) 21:31, 6 August 2012 (UTC)


I have edited everything which had any conflict and you have deleted all my stuff which did not have any citation. Now please leave me alone, Its 2:36 a.m where I am right now and Im very sick plus Im having carpal tunnel pain in my right hand, I cannot argue with you any more. Citations are placed on every section of the article. Now bye bye, Ive had enough. SameStruggle (talk) 21:38, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

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Hello, SameStruggle. You have new messages at Koavf's talk page.
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Justin (koavf)TCM 04:43, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Re: Humble Request

Sorry, I don't usually write in the "Summary" section. Don't worry though, I wrote in it this time. Pohetri (talk) 22:15, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Ownership; tags

You left a message on my talkpage. Saying, among other things, that the article Sanki King was your article. Why do you believe it is your article?

Secondly -- all the tags you object to were appropriate tags. Why are you warning me not to post appropriate maintenance tags? It is completely appropriate to post appropriate maintenance tags. On what basis do you object (other than that you view the article as your article). --Epeefleche (talk) 08:19, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

  • I still don't understand why you believe it is "your" article. Please explain.
And I don't see any of the tags that I adhered as being other than appropriate. Please explain why you disagree. Tags can be used either at the top of an article, at the end of a paragraph, or at the end of a sentence (or in combination).
Creating it does not make it your article. It is the project's article -- no matter who created it. I see that you also addressed other editors in the same manner, stating that this was your article. Writing "my article" and "never come back to my article again" and "my article", as just some examples.
Refs should be provided directly after the material that the refs support.
Also, the refs should be RS refs. I'm at this point not yet clear on Sneakerness, Campus Diaries, and Youlin Magazine. Epeefleche (talk) 05:16, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
As to what constitutes a reliable source, see wp:rs. Epeefleche (talk) 15:21, 2 November 2014 (UTC)