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Out of curiosity

Hello Sri Kanth. Sorry to bother you. I made an edit a month ago forgetting to log-in which according to a message was reverted by you. I'm sorry if this was an error but I really can't find reference to the structure to have outlived its 50 years lifespan. If it does really say that please feel free to add back that point to the article. Good luck. --Wiki San Roze ^†αLҝ 14:01, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

There are three references that I've added on that page, one from the KL govt, one from the Central List of Dams and one from the CWC. One of them clearly states the age of the dam. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 10:49, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Can you please pass on the references to me to add it back to the article (since I don't see any there now)? Alternatively, you can add it back yourself :D. I am assuming that the original reference used (which I had removed) did not state the said claim. Cheers --Wiki San Roze ^†αLҝ 12:28, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Ref number 1, 9, 11. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 10:35, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

I still can't see it. Can you please make it easier by specifying the page/point numbers with exact phrases used? --Wiki San Roze ^†αLҝ 12:06, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Everything is mentioned in the citation border itself. Pages numbers included. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 07:52, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Nopes again. Not sure how long do we have to go before you try to explain yourself. None of the references you pointed out actually seem to state the lifespan of the dam was just merely 50 years. --Wiki San Roze ^†αLҝ 10:03, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Ref 11 and 9 cited here. Hope we don't have to go any longer on this issue. Cheers --Ansumang (talk) 20:28, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

I would have hoped for some honesty here. Seriously, what are we looking at ? Pasting something totally irrelevant to the discussion doesn't make it a citation. We both know this. Can you please paste the verbatim with the claim? --Wiki San Roze ^†αLҝ 20:42, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

I too cant see it in refs 1 and 9. I dont think any reference (except claims from kerala politicians and activists) makes this claim.--Sodabottle (talk) 04:27, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

This is the last time I am going to a Cyber cafe for this matter, if anything goes wrong, use the email link or wait till next week. Also please don't use words like Verbatim. I don't know [or care] what it means.

The link in question, seems dead, it was Kerala: ENVIS Kerala: Environmental Information System Centre (ENVIS), Kerala. pp. 1. Retrieved 30 November 2011.. I will try and find another reference. Do look up Ref No. 2, it is almost 94years old, it could contain relevant information. Alternatively, you could ask my two associate editors on that article. I will inform User:Prad2609 and User:AshLin to look here. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 11:46, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Apathy is not an excuse! You got to assume accountability for your actions. Firstly, your message to my IP would amount to bullying a possible newbie. I took your actions as goodwill and gave you ample chance to explain yourself. It is unfortunate that you have not alone failed to justify your actions but rather resorted to blatant lying by throwing unrelated references. I think I will leave this matter right there with a clear warning not to repeat with bullying or giving dubious references. Ciao --Wiki San Roze ^†αLҝ 14:56, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

The only verifiable source of the two source indicated above has no mention of an age limit or exceeding it. The Kerala ENVIS page is not only not visible but its Google cache is blank too (very strange) (Has it been expunged vide a PIL complaint/Supreme Court directive?). A fresh verifiable reference is required before the so-called 50 year life can be claimed. If that were so, Imho we would get British historical references about the dam outliving its age etc, which is not so. 18:12, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Yeesh, the situation has gone bad. Okay here is my FINAL reply. I hope this cheers you up.

• ENVIS was the only govt source that had mentioned it. Now the page is dead. I don't see how that is MY fault. If dead links were users faults, then all users, including me, please stop editing.
• I admit, that I was partly at fault. The statement should've read Kerala claims that the dam was built with an expected lifespan of 50 years.
• I did find a ref, from Tehelka, which is pretty notable as a New source. It is HOWEVER, biased. Here is the link. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
• What I did was bullying?: If what I did was Bullying, then leaving warnings on any page is Bullying. You didn't seem to get what you wanted, hence you now accuse me of bullying.
• AshLin, the page was pretty neutral, I believe it was the victim of a DDoS attack or so. There were rumours.
• Wikiality, I hope this has cleared up the situation. I do hope we can now be amicable and work together on future articles. I would love to work with someone of your calibre.
• Last point, nowhere in my Userpage, does it say my name is Sri Kanth. On Wikipedia, I'd like to be known ONLY as rsrikanth05.

I hope this clears all air. As AshLin stated, earlier, the page is down, we don't know why. Normally, if we don't have a source, we look for another source. We don't go hunting down people who put in a source. Alternatively, we leave a {{fact}} tag, so that others can pick it up. Cheerio, --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 10:45, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

For heaven's sake mate! You deliberately kept waving materials which DID NOT support your claim as citations. This can't be too difficult for you to understand. Secondly, you threw this lie on a possible newbie and thats why this bullying. I do not deny the possibility of it being genuine or even a honest mistake. This is why I started off with an apology from my part for barging in. I wanted to make sure that I don't end up judging your motives. Unfortunately, at least as far as this issue is concerned, you failed to help yourself. As I mentioned earlier, you are free to add any relevant information into an article as long as its supported. You can either drag this further trying to justify yourself further (causing more damage), or assume accountable for an error (which any one of us is vulnerable). --Wiki San Roze ^†αLҝ 14:33, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Well, warnings to IPs were never uncontroversial. Lets just stop this, I wouldn't hold Rsrikanth05 too much over this, can we just do some AGFing and get over this? Lynch7 09:52, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

I am more than happy to AGF. And I reckon its for all to see that I started off with an apologetic note and been patient enough giving Rsrikanth05 (as the user would like to be addressed) enough room to explain his/her actions. I am alright to leave this issue for now, but I reserve the rights to raise this if and when I find this user showing dubious citations again. Cheers --Wiki San Roze ^†αLҝ 13:33, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

I am NOT interested in explaining myself to a single-tracked person like you who seems hell bent on getting a 'confession' out of me. As I said, it was a valid source when added, I didn't have proper internet access to se if the link was working. OBVIOUSLY, you haven't gone thru ANYTHING that I stated earlier. Dead links are NOT my fault. I won't accept ANY FAULT WHATSOEVER FOR THIS. I end this topic NOW. Good day. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 06:19, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

The tweets

If anyone has issues relating to the tweets I made, or anything that has been going on, please reply here. I'm willing to provide you with ample support. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 17:42, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

For future reference...

... remember to notify people if you file a sock-puppetry allegation against them. And since you decided to rake it up, my contention was about your references that work but were still dubious. I thought of letting it go, but looks like you won't. You particularly said that three citations state the claim [1] where none of those did. --Wiki San Roze ^†αLҝ 20:00, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Don't reply to this reply. Makes no difference. In caps: FOR THE LAST TIME, THE ENVIS KERALA LINK HAD THE DATA. A DEAD LINK IS NOT MY FAULT. GOOD DAY. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 05:10, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Even if it doesn't make any difference for you I am stating it out here for future reference for others. One citation did not work but other two do and yet those two do not claim what you want them to do. This is your obvious fault. Once again, it is you who raked this issue again with the ad hominem sock-puppet allegation. A simple whois would have enlightened you better. Ciao. --Wiki San Roze ^†αLҝ 05:15, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

I did. It came for a BlackBerry, which OBVIOUSLY uses UK and Canadian IPs. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 05:17, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

I highly recommend you to stop free flowing allegations. I challenge you outright here to prove your malicious allegations or apologise for trying to bully me (again). --Wiki San Roze ^†αLҝ 05:24, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Dude, it was just a minor problem. Nothing more. X.One ^SOS 05:25, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry SOS, I was ready to let it go before the user started off with the sock-puppet allegations. I think that I am within my reasonable rights to demand an apology. --Wiki San Roze ^†αLҝ 05:27, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Explain, why only that one topic was picked up? --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 05:31, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

One more thing for you to note: when you request someone to explain, please make sure that you explicitly explain yourself on what the clarification is required? If you want me to explain why I am picking on your dubious citations, it is because we all can demand citations from others users on wikipedia to back their edits/actions. If you want me to explain why we are still talking about this, its because you unnecessarily raked it up with a rather more malicious sock-puppetry allegation. --Wiki San Roze ^†αLҝ 05:35, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Again, it's not my question that is answered. Let us end this. We forget about each other. Period. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 05:47, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but if you want a question to be answered you will have to ask the question clear and properly phrased. And you still haven't withdrawn your allegations against me. How do you expect me to forget and move on when you haven't done your bit there? --Wiki San Roze ^†αLҝ 05:53, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

I struck out the lines that IP asked me to. What more do I need to do? --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 06:25, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

That is between you and that IP. You still haven't withdrawn your statement with me.--Wiki San Roze ^†αLҝ 06:28, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Fine. User:Wikiality123 and the IP who objected to my tweets on user:MikeLynch's RfA are NOT the same as per checkuser's report. Hence I'm convinced that they are two different users. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 06:29, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Cheers and bonne journée. --Wiki San Roze ^†αLҝ 07:27, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

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• EdwardsBot (talk) 04:53, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

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Just wanted to ask that when you create an article via AfC, you remember to remove all the {{submit}} tags. Thanks, Nolelover ^{Talk·Contribs} 19:08, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Pardon me, I promise, next time I create thru AfC, I'll do everything properly. My small mistake. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 06:23, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

No problem :) Nolelover ^{Talk·Contribs} 13:22, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

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Andrea Pisanu

I had the illegal copy of the BOlogna Report and accounts. I just can't cite it. (Find me in User talk:matthew_hk BTW) 210.6.84.49 (talk) 09:17, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

But, if it can't be cited, then it can't be added. : ( --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 09:19, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Ok buy it or download it. You can borrow a real book from library as a reference, why not a copyrighted material that it should be pay to access it?

The link was obtained from internet and no one so fool to make wikipedia a heaven to share illegal copy. Link removed to prevent misuse Matthew_hk tc 09:24, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

IF it is a book, then use the ISB number? I'll have a look and let you know. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 09:28, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

However i found some typo error inside the report. And co-ownership is so complicated, i would check did the transfer figure really match the transfer profit and financial cost/income in numbers. P.S. the deal yet another financial tricks to create false profit and high price flop to be defused for years. Matthew_hk tc 09:36, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Read the link. It supposed to be bought from Italian CCIAA (commercial dept.) Matthew_hk tc 09:36, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I cannot understand what language it is in. : ( Can you translate? --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 09:29, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

It is Italian, but selling a co-ownership would create financial income or cost, which now i can't match the figure in the front and in the back. For example Pasi is 3.2 million (that is €1.6 million for 50%) in the front but €4.32M (add 20% VAT) in the back. The retained half of Valiani should worth €2.5 million but selling it for €3M should create a financial income of 500,000, however in page 69 write another way. Matthew_hk tc 09:36, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

For example, Ekdal was calculated right. Half was €2.4 million (show in debt side of the balance), sold for €1.31M, so on page 68: residual value: 4.8 x around 3 residual year on contract over 4 years, around 3.6 (actually 3.703M), sold for 2.62 valuation created a loss of 3.703-2.62 = 1.179 but a financial income of debt decrease (2.4) but give up 50% with 1.31 market value = 2.4-1.31 = 1.09

To sum up, Alessandro Elia, Andrea Pisanu, Francesco Valiani and Riccardo Pasi would have citation but citation itself need to verify (the accountant did not do their audit job on the written report, only on accounts) Matthew_hk tc 09:51, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

I see. I assume it is work of the Italian Govt? If yes, what is the copyright on GOvt works? --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 11:37, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

No, it is the financial report of a company which could be obtained from Italian gov. I don't know the Italian law exactly but i had warned by some rule before purchase. I am not sure sharing the file publicly is right or not, as some files were obtained from fans site. BTW I had to re-check the report as above reason, so i would revert them until i can confirm the "audited" report is correct. 01:38, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

I think you can try something lik Scribd for this? --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 05:21, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

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