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Nomination of Shabbos App for deletion

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October 2014

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  Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. As here. Please avoid adding OR. Also, please don't use "claimed" in situations such as this -- though it is appropriate, for example, in a court case at times. Epeefleche (talk) 23:30, 22 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

The same with your subsequent uncited OR assertions here. Epeefleche (talk) 23:34, 22 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

I do not understand the implied rules. I was as much part of the debate as Rabbi Yaakov Menken. (The discussion group I run has more subscribers than cross-currents gets unique visitors per week.) I don't know how to say this while avoiding sounding egotistical, but as a rabbi who has an Engineer's Degree (an "all but doctorate") in Electrical Engineering, teaching for 2 years college and graduate level courses in digital logic and computer design, and a 23 year career in programming, mostly in Java, I am not sure I'm a less reliable source than those already quoted. And in fact, it was my pointing out the impossibility of some of their claims (eg the battery charging thing) that got YidTech to change the text of their page -- my OR was material to the events in the story, this is not post-facto theorizing. Had Rabbi Menken edited the "Possible hoax" section to include his own position, would it be OR because he is presenting his own findings? Or is the difference that I originally wrote my opinion on an email list which is not publicly accessible (aside from shortened versions in comments to Rabbi Menken's post as well as a few other blogs)?

As for "claims", since there is reason to believe they don't exist, writing the existence of a semi-developed app and a team of developers as though they were fact is inaccurate. The real topic here is not the alleged but impossible app, it's the consequent discussion of halakhah and proper public policy if it were to exist. micha (talk) 00:30, 23 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

Your account will be renamed

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