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List of Fordham Rams football seasons

Please see Category:Lists of college football seasons. We include lists of team annual season results in stand-alone articles, which you can see within this category. The content which you created can be viewed at List of Fordham Rams football seasons per norms, and is linked atop Fordham Rams football and via "Seasons" in Template:Fordham Rams football navbox. Adding/re-adding annual results in the team page is excessive. Cheers, UW Dawgs (talk) 19:50, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

The stand-alone articles featuring team annual results do not cover all of Fordham's seasons as an FCS program. Nor do they include average attendance numbers. Therefore my addition is not excessive. Cheers.

We don't list annual season results in the team articles, when there is a stand-alone article. You can see the annual results at List of Fordham Rams football seasons and edit this article to include any information you feel is omitted. UW Dawgs (talk) 20:31, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Your edit which add "Conference"[1] is now reflected at List of Fordham Rams football seasons. UW Dawgs (talk) 20:49, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

I see the separate page up although the outlining maroon now seems a shade or two lighter.

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Thank you :)

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Islanders–Rangers rivalry

Please stop making up numbers as you did at Islanders–Rangers rivalry. That is considered WP:SYNTH, which means it is WP:OR. In addition, the source that you showed lists incorrect numbers. Here are the numbers for the regular season series from the NHL itself and the teams' media guides (win is 2 points, tie/OT loss – 1 point, loss – 0 points):

• Rangers vs. Islanders – 127–115–19–9 (282 points) in regular season, and 146–135–19–9 combined with playoffs
• Islanders vs. Rangers – 124–121–19–6 (273 points), and 144–140–19–6 combined with playoffs

It is evident that the Rangers are leading all the series against the Islanders. Finally, I am not sure for how long you have been following any of the team or the sport in general, but it looks like your are unfamiliar with the subject. Therefore, please make a better research when you are making edits in the future. – Sabbatino (talk) 08:36, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

If, as YOU stated, as as YOU linked, the Islanders have a winning regular season record against the Rangers then it is NOT evident that "the Rangers are leading all the series against the Islanders." Whatever that quote means. English much? Also odd that you only list the Rangers record on the Wikipedia page but don't list the Islanders record.

As I've already stated, and as you can see from your own links, the records are different. OL/SO losses can't be included because they are different for each team. Seen much NHL in your time? That is why, here on Wikipedia, the "rivalry records" count OL/SO losses as losses. That is why the rivalry record for all other teams on all other wiki pages have three sets of digits (win-loss-tie) and not four (win-loss-tie-OL/SO loss for one of the two teams in the rivalry) sets of digits.

Get it yet?

It is you who does not get it as you did not really look at my links, because it is the other way around than what you think. And it again shows that you are unfamikiar with the subject. It is clear that you are unwilling to discuss the matter calmly so I decided to ask about the matter at WT:NHL. – Sabbatino (talk) 01:03, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

PrideMatters, it's best you simmer down or you'll end up being blocked. GoodDay (talk) 01:07, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Blocked for attempting to post the factual rivalry record that Sabbatino continuously deletes? For doing so while also being accused of "making up numbers" as Sabbatino did on the very FIRST line of this thread? An accusation which ignores the fact that I was the first to back up rivalry record numbers with a link to begin with.

By the way, not only did I look at Sabbatino's later links, but this link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Islanders–Rangers_rivalry&action=history to the "Revision History" page shows that I was the one who first posted the Islanders record to begin with. Again, I posted that record first. Sabbatino initial response was deleting that Islanders record and reposting the original Rangers record.

So, first let's all agree that although Sabbatino claims "you did not really look at my links," (which includes a link of the Islanders record to this rivalry) I'm the one who actually first linked the Islanders record. Making the "you did not really look at my links," claim even richer is the fact that Sabbatino never even added that Islanders link to the Wikipedia page. Even after getting links to both records, he still only added the Rangers one. Still. In doing so he once again only posted the record that separates Ranger OT/SO losses from regulation ones while deleting the one that does the same for the Islanders.

Moving forward...

I'm also the one who tried explaining that the Islanders and Rangers hold different records to their own rivalry because of that very "OT/SO loss" category. A universally accepted record for the rivalry happens when counting OT/SO losses as actual losses. That is why the NHL rivalry records on the Wikipedia pages below all exclude "OT/SO losses" completely, while instead, adding all (for both sides) OT/SO losses to the "loss" category.

Some links to these Wikipedia pages: 1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyers–Rangers_rivalry 2) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyers–Penguins_rivalry 3) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitals–Flyers_rivalry 4) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitals–Penguins_rivalry 5) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruins–Flyers_rivalry 6) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruins–Maple_Leafs_rivalry 7) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor%27s_Cup_(Florida) 8) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackhawks–Blues_rivalry 9) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Alberta 10)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kings–Sharks_rivalry

Notice how all of the above links only list "W-L-T" on the rivalry record? Notice how they don't list "W-L-T-OT/SO L" as Sabbatino is attempting to do, and attempting to do so strictly from a Rangers fan perspective?

The record I posted 146-144-19 (in favor of the Rangers) is the actual universal record. Not the one separating Ranger OT/SO losses from regulation losses but NOT doing the same for the Islanders. That is a misrepresentation. One that Sabbatino continuously and purposely reinforces by constantly deleting anything but that Rangers record.

Oh and by deleting the universal record which I had posted, and replacing it with Sabbatino's misrepresentation, GoodDay is also at fault in upholding a (Rangers) bias. Both have picked misrepresentation over fact. Both. One would think, on Wikipedia of all places, that would be a serious faux pas, no?

Firstly, there is no Rangers bias on the page. Moreover, this has nothing to do with being a fan of one of the teams. Correct records must be shown and not some WP:OR crap from some crap website. By the looks of it, you are acting like WP:OWNER, because your were the first to add the source from some crap website, while I showed you the official source (NHL). Just because 10 other pages list your proposed format, that does not mean that all pages must list the same format, because WP:OSE. The infobox is supposed to show the leading team, but for the sake of compromise, we could list both teams' records in the infobox. And that is why I started a discussion at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ice Hockey#Islanders–Rangers rivalry], because opinions from the members of WP:NHL are needed to see if anyone is against. All this could have been avoided if you just followed WP:BRD per which you must have started a discussion after the first revert. And this WP:RFC below is silly (it is also misplaced, because it should take place on the subject's page), because we are not at that point to request it. – Sabbatino (talk) 13:09, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

"Request for comment" (PrideMatters, 11:30PM EST, 11/19/19) Should the Islanders-Rangers rivalry record be a W-L-T format or a W-L-T-OT/SOL that only includes Ranger overtime and shootout losses but not Islander ones?

I quite certain, that an Rfc for an article is not held at an editor's talkpage. GoodDay (talk) 15:39, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Please don't hold RfCs on user talk pages. If this is a discussion about the content of one specific article, it belongs on the talk page for that article; if it is more general, affecting several related articles, the talk page for the most relevant WikiProject would be more appropriate. Whichever is chosen, please observe WP:RFCBEFORE and then WP:RFCST. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:53, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Never knew that every article came w/its own talk page. Never knew about or did an "rfc" either. Thanks for the 411, Redrose64.

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