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S.G.(GH) ping! 13:34, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
"Portuguese military victory"? Is there any debate to this? I'm not sure it sits comfortable without a citation or some qualification, seems to me to be a similar kind of point as those that says the US had a "military victory" in Vietnam. Is the reality not more complex? S.G.(GH) ping! 13:34, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
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Invasion of Cayenne (1809)
editDear PortugalIIV.
I´m writing you this message to discuss your edits on the article Invasion of Cayenne (1809), where you removed several pieces of text mentioning the colonial brazilian participation in the conflict.
There is a topic in the talk page, where many of the article´s main contributors stated the necessity to highlight and further explain the role of the colonial brazilians in the Invasion, in order to give a full NPOV scope of the conflict in question.
In the Brazilian historiography and worldwide brazilianist historiography, the Invasion of Cayenne is interpreted as the moment of birth of Brazilian colonial identity and the baptism of fire of the Brazilian Marine Corps. It´s of great significance to brazilian history studies and an important issue in modern historiography.
As stated in the article, and in the talk page, Brazilian colonial forces had an important and decisive role in the invasion of Cayenne, comprising almost the entire ground forces and most of the naval forces in the conflict.
Brazil also had a fairly decent level of authonomy within the Portuguese Empire, having an authonomous central government and distinct status from other portuguese colonies, which would be further expanded in 1815, when the colony of Brazil was elevated to the rank of a Kingdom and by the same law the separate kingdoms of Portugal, Brazil and the Algarves were united as a single State under the title of The United Kingdom of Portugal, Brazil and the Algarves (as can be seen in the linked article).
Considering those facts, i edited the article (based on the debate on the talk page) to insert a good ammount of missing information (such as the colonial brazilian naval vessels, the regiments and units participating, etc) and to distinguish the participation of brazilian colonial subjects of the portuguese crown in the event.
Being that explained, i would like to ask you not to revert that edition withou a propper discussion, as it would be disrespectfull to my work and the work and debate of others before me.
I understand you have quite an impressive ammount of contributions related to portuguese historiography (and i admire that), and considering this background, you most likely have some knowledge of brazilian and brazilianist historiography to understand the importance and the studies made by them on the subject discussed and can understand why i made such and edition on the article.
I thank you for your attention and bid you farewell.
July 2011
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Wrong battle at Cranganore
editHi. You described the wrong battle at Cranganore. Your article conflated two separate and unrelated encounters - the raid on Cranganore in October 1504 and the attack on an Egyptian transport fleet at Pandarane in December 1504. If you intend to make Indian Ocean battle pages, may I recommend you read the sub-pages of the Portuguese India Armadas? They contain a lot of information on the individual fleets and their actions in the Indian Ocean. Given the enormous amount of small engagements, raids and attacks, I would reserve separate "battle pages" only for significant and large encounters. Walrasiad (talk) 03:59, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi. Once more on Pandarane and the battle template. Please read my argument in the discussion page of the template. In a nutshell, I'd like to ask you to please reserve the Indian Ocean battle template for significant battles, not list every minor armed actions, raids or piratical attacks in the Indian Ocean. Walrasiad (talk) 23:43, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
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Nomination of Battle of Sauce for deletion
editA discussion is taking place as to whether the article Battle of Sauce is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
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Luso-Brazilian invasion - merge proposal
editHi PortugalIV, in responce to the concerns of the above AfD, I looked for sources to verify the factuality of the Battle of Sauce 1816 and found that although there was indeed such a battle during the Luso-Brazilian invasion, not all sources are very clear about the date, or even year of its occurence. However I think this battle was of very small importance and I am considering merging it, along with the other battles of this invasion to the main article. Your input in the discussion would be very much appreciated here Talk:Luso-Brazilian invasion#Multiple merge proposal. If you have reasons to believe that some of these articles have scope for expansion beyond what should be mentioned in the main article, by all means let me know. Thank you. Hoverfish Talk 12:50, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
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