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Population Genetics of the Sami Peoples: mtDNA haplogroups V and Z frequencies

Hi. Thanks for your contribution to the Population Genetics of the Sami Peoples article. Do you happen to have a source for the information you provided? It would be fantastic if you could add a citation. Thanks. Peer Gynt (talk) 04:55, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Hello, I'm sorry but I do not have the original sources, http://home.comcast.net/~whitathey/indexv.htm probably has them about V, and the Z is just a notion from the Haplogroup Z (mtDNA) -article. I guess it is some russian study. Dreg743 (talk) 05:13, 20 January 2008 (UTC) //w ww.springerlink.com/content/q16020522223u242/ might be it.

Thanks for correcting me

Thanks for correcting me. Here's what I wrote for the Sami Talk page. Take Care. Dinkytown (talk) 15:45, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi Peer - Thanks for telling me. I actually just found this out last week - geeezzz... This is something that really hasn't been well advertised in Minnesota (or conveniently overlooked - for obvious reasons). This would be a good plot for a conspiracy novel (Garrison excluded...).

However, despite that Keillor claims to be Norwegian – he has never (to the best of my understanding) mentioned anything about Sami in North America, which is disappointing since most of the Sami live in Norway and many descendents live in Minnesota and elsewhere. I haven’t researched it yet, but I have never heard him on his radio show. Thanks for the info. Take Care Dinkytown (talk) 15:45, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Shamanism in Siberia

Dear Peer Gynt,

Thank You for correcting the article. Thank You also for Your proposal to provide citations. If You lack time (as You mentioned), please do not feel forced to do so, I don't mind at all that You deleted concepts which are over-simplified or specious (or even simply bad concepts). I study mathematics and I can imagine that a bad concept is a great barrier in good understanding, so I am even thankful if You deleted such ones.

Thank You also the explanations about the talk page of the article. I have not known about of these facts. I have now read also Your explanations about population genetics of Sami peoples (DNA studies and indigenous).

Good luck to Your studies or job too. I do not know much about any physical anthropology or genetic. Thus I cannot be really a great help in fixing such parts in the article.

As for other things where maybe I can help when needed: Now I am busy with learning about cultures and languages of Eskimo peoples (especially those of Sireniki Eskimos and Siberian Yupik). It is funny because of some typological resemblances to my native language (possessive personal suffixes, polysynthetic tendencies, verb incorporating object).

But what I am even more interested in is the way how the cultures of hunter-gatherer peoples can be saved by a "reinterpretation". The way a nature scientist experiences his/her own discoveries (and other discoveries too) may have some analogies with the "flavor" of Ungazigmi, Hadzabe, Nganasan myths, at least I had such a subjective feeling. My daily job is to understand the rather abstract but marvelous problems in mathematical logic and abstract algebra (+ some topology, category theory "by need"), and I have a strange subjective feeling of relatedness when reading the hunter-gatherer myths about the anthropomorphized world of natural phenomena ruled by strange but understandable laws.

Alcoholism is a great problem both among Asiatic Eskimos and Nganasan. I suppose, this is caused by the "Durkheimian" anomy induced by acculaturation. I think this anomy could be changed, because (contrary to the appearance) modern science is not as hostile to hunter-gatherer beliefs as it seems. Moreover, I suspect, nature science is a good "dualistic pair" of hunter-gatherer beliefs, partly because of their common interest in nature, and [paradoxically] partly because of the great difference between them.

Best wishes and many thanks,

Physis (talk) 14:59, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Nils-Aslak v. Niko Valkeapää

Thank you for *again* correcting me about my work. In my confusion I mistakenly inserted Nils-Aslak Välkepää's photo with his godson, Niko Valkeapää. I'm not offended, hurt (or intiminated for that matter...) - but anyway - go ahead and take this...

		The Minor Barnstar
		For your good eyes in catching the wrong name with the right photo.... Thank you and take care... Dinkytown (talk) 04:39, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Dear Dinkytown,

Thanks so much for the barnstar; that's very kind of you. :)

Actually, I hadn't noticed who inserted the photo into the article, but I'm glad you added it, despite the mistake. It's nice to have an image in the article, especially since Niko is using his godfather's work in his own. :)

By the way, I've been thinking about what you said about Garrison Keillor not mentioning Sami peoples or Americans with Sami ancestry on PHC.

Finns or Americans of Finnish ancestry (a group more well known than Samis but less than Norwegians and Swedes to Americans in general?) have rarely been mentioned on the show: just a brief few times. This leads me to believe that Keillor's schtick has simply developed around Norwegian-Americans and sometimes Swedish-Americans because that's what he's familiar with, or that's just what has worked comedically. (He also rarely metions Icelanders or Danes.)

But I do also speculate that the lack of mention of Samis on the show does have something to do with Sami immigrants hiding their ethnicity, and thus Sami heritage having a lower social profile (?) in Minnesota.

You may be pleased to discover, however, that the 2007 Prairie Home Companion Norwegian Cruise web site contains a reading list for passengers that includes two books about and written by Sami people: one on history and one on contemporary issues. [1]

Anyway, it *would* be nice to hear something about Samis on the show; someone should write him a letter! :) Keillor is quite liberal and thoughtful; I would be surprised if something about Samis didn't appear on the show.

Take care,

Peer Gynt (talk) 23:40, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

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