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AfD nomination of Norman Ralph Bowen

An article that you have been involved in editing, Norman Ralph Bowen, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Norman Ralph Bowen. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 16:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Friendly advice

Take a look at some other articles. Learn how to use footnotes, you can do this clicking "edit this page" on any page with footnotes and seeing how they are constructed.. Then, put footnotes into the article. Also, look up the subject on the google news archive (click googlr, then more then news, then archive) and it will turn up news articles from decades ago on this man. Also try google books, he is probably mentioned in a few. good luck. Becca02459 (talk) 17:38, 15 May 2008 (UTC)Becca02459

Request for Assistance

(moved here from User talk:Doug for unified discussion)

Hi, I noticed that on the "Editor Assistance" page you were willing to help with some advice on deletions/verifiability. I posted a page on Norman_Ralph_Bowen and it has been listed for deletion because some editors feel he is not notable enough. Would you mind looking the article over and giving me your thoughts on notability, etc? I would really appreciate it. Pbsolomon (talk) 22:17, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I took a look at the article and I have several thoughts. First, it does give a lot of personal information about the subject that is of marginal if any notability. For example, his education and military service are not likely of any interest to Wikipedia users in general, only to family and friends of the subject and extreme specialists. Some background (birth town, birth date, studied at Columbia, degree in Remember this is an encyclopedia. Second, the article certainly asserts importance for the subject in the lead, but the article references his status as a "correspondent for the Wall Street Journal" to a single article rather than a WSJ listing of their correspondents, etc. If anything, I'd think the article should at least reference three or four separate articles. Does the article refer to him as a "correspondent"? If so, maybe a simple parenthetical comment would do. Is the article available online? Not required but certainly helps when defending against deletion. Also, if one article does make a WSJ "correspondent", then it may not equate to notability. If, on the other hand, this is just an example article, I would guess that a regular WSJ correspondent would be notable. Third, you might consider disclosing your relationship, which has been questioned several times, rather than simply saying that you don't have any COI. The question of how you got an unpublished family history and how that is not WP:OR at the very least is a serious question. I don't presume COI, but if I go to the Vanderbilts and ask to see an unpublished personal diary, then reference it on Wikipedia, that's still Original Research and not allowed. If, however, I find a (reliable third party) published analysis of an unpublished personal diary of a notable individual, that I can cite on Wikipedia. Finally, I advise strongly against making "threats" to go to DRV or Mediation if the article is deleted. These are just processes, they aren't weapons. Experienced participants in XFDs don't make their decisions based on future potential actions by the opponents of specific deletions. A better solution would be to ask for help and request the article be undeleted to your userspace so you can work with an experienced editor to excise the overly personal material and add more citations. This of course, only if and when a deletion decision is rendered, but the debate is open for several more days. One more point, if you decide to revert other editors' edits to the article you should at least leave an edit summary and, better yet, discussion on the article's talk page. Let me know if you have more questions or want specific advice. --Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 12:33, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Norman Ralph Bowen

Per your request at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Norman Ralph Bowen, I have userfied the article Norman Ralph Bowen to a subpage of your user page: User:Pbsolomon/Norman Ralph Bowen. I have also removed the content from your user page, as it does not preserve the edit history of the article, which is necessary under the GFDL (see Help:Merging and moving pages#How to rename a page). Cheers, –Black Falcon ^(Talk) 18:48, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Idea

Not sure this helps, but you might considering publishing User:Pbsolomon/Norman Ralph Bowen on http://genealogy.wikia.com. --Eustress (talk) 00:47, 17 January 2009 (UTC)