# User talk:Nsk92

## NPR Newsletter No.16 15 December 2018

Hello Nsk92,

Reviewer of the Year

This year's award for the Reviewer of the Year goes to Onel5969. Around on Wikipedia since 2011, their staggering number of 26,554 reviews over the past twelve months makes them, together with an additional total of 275,285 edits, one of Wikipedia's most prolific users.

Thanks are also extended for their work to JTtheOG (15,059 reviews), Boleyn (12,760 reviews), Cwmhiraeth (9,001 reviews), Semmendinger (8,440 reviews), PRehse (8,092 reviews), Arthistorian1977 (5,306 reviews), Abishe (4,153 reviews), Barkeep49 (4,016 reviews), and Elmidae (3,615 reviews).
Cwmhiraeth, Semmendinger, Barkeep49, and Elmidae have been New Page Reviewers for less than a year — Barkeep49 for only seven months, while Boleyn, with an edit count of 250,000 since she joined Wikipedia in 2008, has been a bastion of New Page Patrol for many years.

Less good news, and an appeal for some help

The backlog is now approaching 5,000, and still rising. There are around 640 holders of the NPR flag, most of whom appear to be inactive. The 10% of the reviewers who do 90% of the work could do with some support especially as some of them are now taking a well deserved break.

Really good news - NPR wins the Community Wishlist Survey 2019

At #1 position, the Community Wishlist poll closed on 3 December with a resounding success for NPP, reminding the WMF and the volunteer communities just how critical NPP is to maintaining a clean encyclopedia and the need for improved tools to do it. A big 'thank you' to everyone who supported the NPP proposals. See the results.

Training video

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:14, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

## You were mentioned

You were mentioned here. I was wondering if you could clarify your position on the point referenced. Is the import of your "Support" !vote accurately captured by the following: "As Nsk92 states, listing names is really meant to help readers establish a political narrative in their imaginations"? Bus stop (talk) 15:22, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, I am completely swamped in RL right now and don't have any time to participate in that discussion, not even in terms of a quick look. Nsk92 (talk) 11:23, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello Nsk92,

News
Discussions of interest
• Two elements of CSD G6 have been split into their own criteria: R4 for redirects in the "File:" namespace with the same name as a file or redirect at Wikimedia Commons (Discussion), and G14 for disambiguation pages which disambiguate zero pages, or have "(disambiguation)" in the title but disambiguate a single page (Discussion).
• {{db-blankdraft}} was merged into G13 (Discussion)
• A discussion recently closed with no consensus on whether to create a subject-specific notability guideline for theatrical plays.
• There is an ongoing discussion on a proposal to create subject-specific notability guidelines for chemicals and organism taxa.
Reminders
• NPR is not a binary keep / delete process. In many cases a redirect may be appropriate. The deletion policy and its associated guideline clearly emphasise that not all unsuitable articles must be deleted. Redirects are not contentious. See a classic example of the templates to use. More templates are listed at the R template index. Reviewers who are not aware, do please take this into consideration before PROD, CSD, and especially AfD because not even all admins are aware of such policies, and many NAC do not have a full knowledge of them.
NPP Tools Report
• Superlinks – allows you to check an article's history, logs, talk page, NPP flowchart (on unpatrolled pages) and more without navigating away from the article itself.
• copyvio-check – automatically checks the copyvio percentage of new pages in the background and displays this info with a link to the report in the 'info' panel of the Page curation toolbar.
• The NPP flowchart now has clickable hyperlinks.

Six Month Queue Data: Today – Low – 2393 High – 4828
Looking for inspiration? There are approximately 1000 female biographies to review.
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--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:18, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

• \operatorname{} does not only prevent italics, but also results in context-dependent spacing, thus
{\displaystyle {\begin{aligned}&5\operatorname {arccsc} \theta \\[5pt]&5\operatorname {arccsc} (\theta )\end{aligned}}}
You see the space between the 5 are arccsc, and also that the space to the right of arccsc is larger in one of these than in the other.
• Page ranges require an en-dash, not a hyphen. So do ranges of years or other numbers, or letters of the alphabet.
right: 782–800
wrong: 782-800
• In non-TeX math notation, one italicizes variables, but not digits and not parentheses, etc. That is constistent with what TeX and LaTeX do. And spacing is used. Thus:
right: n = 2.
wrong: n = 2.
wrong: n=2.
wrong: n=2.
• If the difference between ${\textstyle ||w||_{X}}$  and ${\textstyle \|w\|_{X}}$  is not conspicuous to you, contrast these:
{\displaystyle {\begin{aligned}&||a||||b||\\[5pt]&\|a\|\|b\|\end{aligned}}}
The first is coded as ||a|| ||b|| and the second as \|a\|\|b\|.

Michael Hardy (talk) 18:19, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello Nsk92,

WMF at work on NPP Improvements

Niharika Kohli, a product manager for the growth team, announced that work is underway in implementing improvements to New Page Patrol as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist and suggests all who are interested watch the project page on meta. Two requested improvements have already been completed. These are:

• Allow filtering by no citations in page curation
• Not having CSD and PRODs automatically marked as reviewed, reflecting current consensus among reviewers and current Twinkle functionality.
Reliable Sources for NPP

Rosguill has been compiling a list of reliable sources across countries and industries that can be used by new page patrollers to help judge whether an article topic is notable or not. At this point further discussion is needed about if and how this list should be used. Please consider joining the discussion about how this potentially valuable resource should be developed and used.

Backlog drive coming soon

Look for information on the an upcoming backlog drive in our next newsletter. If you'd like to help plan this drive, join in the discussion on the New Page Patrol talk page.

News
Discussions of interest

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## New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019

Hello Nsk92,

WMF at work on NPP Improvements

More new features are being added to the feed, including the important red alert for previously deleted pages. This will only work if it is selected in your filters. Best is to 'select all'. Do take a moment to check out all the new features if you have not already done so. If anything is not working as it should, please let us know at NPR. There is now also a live queue of AfC submissions in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to review AfCs, but bear in mind that NPP is an official process and policy and is more important.

QUALITY of REVIEWING

Articles are still not always being checked thoroughly enough. If you are not sure what to do, leave the article for a more experienced reviewer. Please be on the alert for any incongruities in patrolling and help your colleagues where possible; report patrollers and autopatrolled article creators who are ostensibly undeclared paid editors. The displayed ORES alerts offer a greater 'at-a-glance' overview, but the new challenges in detecting unwanted new content and sub-standard reviewing do not necessarily make patrolling any easier, nevertheless the work may have a renewed interest factor of a different kind. A vibrant community of reviewers is always ready to help at NPR.

Backlog

The backlog is still far too high at between 7,000 and 8,000. Of around 700 user rights holders, 80% of the reviewing is being done by just TWO users. In the light of more and more subtle advertising and undeclared paid editing, New Page Reviewing is becoming more critical than ever.

Move to draft

NPR is triage, it is not a clean up clinic. This move feature is not limited to bios so you may have to slightly re-edit the text in the template before you save the move. Anything that is not fit for mainspace but which might have some promise can be draftified - particularly very poor English and machine and other low quality translations.

Notifying users

Remember to use the message feature if you are just tagging an article for maintenance rather than deletion. Otherwise articles are likely to remain perma-tagged. Many creators are SPA and have no intention of returning to Wikipedia. Use the feature too for leaving a friendly note note for the author of a first article you found well made or interesting. Many have told us they find such comments particularly welcoming and encouraging.

PERM

Admins are now taking advantage of the new time-limited user rights feature. If you have recently been accorded NPR, do check your user rights to see if this affects you. Depending on your user account preferences, you may receive automated notifications of your rights changes. Requests for permissions are not mini-RfAs. Helpful comments are welcome if absolutely necessary, but the bot does a lot of the work and the final decision is reserved for admins who do thorough research anyway.

Other news

School and academic holidays will begin soon in various places around the Western world. Be on the lookout for the usual increase in hoax, attack, and other junk pages.

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:38, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

## New message from Stifle

Hello, Nsk92. You have new messages at Stifle's talk page.
Message added 14:59, 8 August 2019 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Stifle (talk) 14:59, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Please do not add a {{stub}} tag to an article if a specific stub tag {{xxx-stub}} is already there on it. SD0001 (talk) 19:46, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Ah, OK, thanks. Nsk92 (talk) 19:47, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

## Never Again Action

I'm working on it. There's a bunch of press from the past few months. Victor Grigas (talk) 19:50, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

OK, I see. It is just a PROD tag and you can remove it yourself, preferably after adding extra references. In general, with articles like this one, it is better to develop them first in your sandbox before posting to mainspace. Nsk92 (talk) 19:55, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

## Degenerate Higher-Order Scalar-Tensor theories

Hi, you tagged Degenerate Higher-Order Scalar-Tensor theories as too incomprehensible and technical. Was there anything in particular you thought could be improved or was it just the whole article? Bellowhead678 (talk) 22:27, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Let me put it this way. I am a professional PhD holding mathematician and even I could not really understand what the article is about or what is happening there. The lede in particular needs to be written in a way that at least somebody with a college bachelor degree in science can roughly understand what the article is about. In fact, since you are even asking this question here, you should aim for a beginning undergraduate student in physics or math as your audience. Use more hyperlinks to other relevant articles where readers can look up relevant terms. The main body of the article, the Action section, currently consists of a bunch of formulas, with almost no explanation of what they mean and in which context they arise. Preferably add a few sentences explaining in which context DHOST theories arise, how they are used, and where and by whom they were introduced. Nsk92 (talk) 22:40, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

## WP:Articles for deletion/Kenneth Westman (writer)

A couple of things.

1- Two of the books are available at Amazon if you have a kindle. Yes you have to buy them but Amazon has a very lenient return policy. You can get a refund for 21 days.

2- editor and administrator MilborneOne added details[1] to Westman's article. Which makes me think, MO has a source and that Westman may exist. I've pinged him....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 22:38, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

This discussion properly belongs at the AfD page itself. If you raise these points there, I'll respond there. Thanks, Nsk92 (talk) 22:49, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

## Arnaud Cochet

Hi ! I was wondering why did you put a third party tag to Arnaud Cochet ? All the sources are official decrees published by the French government to notify the public that some position have been filled... The tag doesn't belong there

CocoricoPolynesien (talk) 06:07, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

I reread the tag : the source is official, you will not find better because this is there that France publishes its laws since 1869. It is not self published and the most reliable source you will ever find as it is the document that makes authority !

CocoricoPolynesien (talk) 06:25, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

I probably should have used a different tag when doing NPP on this article. The point is that official government decrees about his appointments, while official and reliable, are primary sources. Wikipedia articles, per WP:NOR#Primary, secondary and tertiary sources policy, are supposed to be based mainly on secondary sources, see WP:PSTS for details. The article needs to include some secondary sources, such as newspaper articles about Arnaud Cochet. I'll replace the tag with the correct one. Nsk92 (talk) 09:45, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
Oooh, okay ! I'll try to find some articles then ! Good day ! CocoricoPolynesien (talk) 09:57, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

## Tags on Eldren Bailey

Hello! You tagged this article for linkrot and as an orphan. Both tags are incorrect: it has no bare URLS in sources and is not an orphan. I've removed the tags. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 19:08, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

References number 8 and 10 in the article are bare URLs, so they still need to be fixed. You are correct that the article is not an orphan. I somehow missed the List of outsider artists in the What links here link. Nsk92 (talk) 19:15, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
I have fixed refs 8 and 10 now. Nsk92 (talk) 19:21, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. You might be speeding through these page patrols too quickly; I was able to fix several pages that you tagged, with about as many clicks as it took to tag them. I also found and fixed one or to others that were incorrectly tagged. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 19:26, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

## RE: Proposed deletion of Martino Lupini

The proposed deletion is based on an arbitrary interpretation of a Wikipedia criterion. Therefore I strongly object this deletion prpopsal.--Justi Rino (talk) 01:39, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

That is, of course, your prerogative. I'll list the article for an AfD for an in-depth deletion discussion. Nsk92 (talk) 01:42, 19 August 2019 (UTC)