User talk:NE2/Archive 1

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Mmm... stuff to read. I wonder why it waits until after I start editing to give it to me?

If anyone's paying attention, did I do First Coast Railroad properly?

I guess no one's watching.

Actually, I sent you the welcome message when I saw your name on the "recent changes" list and saw no one had previously sent one. Michael 04:19, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Helpme

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See above - did I make First Coast Railroad properly?

It's pretty good! You might look at an example for how to improve it, eg Alaska_Railroad. Some things to improve on:
  • The article title should be in bold
  • The article should have categories
  • Check the links. Eg it links to Trains, but it should probably link like [[Trains (magazine)|Trains]]
  • You can use {{reporting mark|FCRD}} for the reporting mark thing.--Commander Keane 12:19, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
By the way, please use {helpme} on your talk page only (here, not your userpage), we will see it here.--Commander Keane 12:23, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

The message above says to use it "on your user page". Is that message wrong? --NE2 12:31, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes the message is wrong. Sorry about that, when the {helpme} system was new the welcome template was incorrect - it has since been corrected - but a few people still have the incorrect message.--Commander Keane 12:33, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Seals, Georgia

Sorry I removed Seals, Georgia from the Seal disambiguation page. I didn't know it was a place name, and unfortunately a Google search for Seals Georgia doesn't turn up anything about the town (well, actually, I only looked through the first eighty sites returned, but didn't spot anything). However, I've just searched on Georgia towns and found it's listed on http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ga/gatowns7.htm - so my apologies.

I'll create a stub page for the place so that it's not a red link on the Seal article - if you know anything more about the town, maybe you'd like to add it in...

Cheers, Hebrides 07:46, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Article: Green Week

You asked me whether there was a reason that I created a page entitled "Green Week" labelled as a hoax by some and by you as 'non-notable'.

It was at my discretion that the page was created in the first place, and whilst I realise that to you it may be 'non-notable' to the 20,000 + current student who currently attend Monash University it is not.

Green Week is fondly remembered by the many thousands more students whom have attended Monash University throughout the ages and many infamous moments in Melbournian history have been indirectly attributed to this integral part of Monash life.

One example is the 'kidnapping' of the legendary blind radio announcer Grantley Dee in order to win an event known as 'Hardest to Obtain Object'.

If Wikipedia is able to list Music Festivals that attract less than 10,000 people in its index, then why should a week long celebration of University Life that has been around (by many different names!) since Monash's opening year be omitted due to the incomprehension of its significance?

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Perry's Nut House

Thanks for that fix. I had copied that Category tag from elsewhere... I didn't understand what the "pipe" did, but it looked like it worked so I didn't change it. Anyway - thanks again. --AStanhope 12:03, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

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Georgia Ave DC.PNG

I believe that, based on the format of the usage (exclusion of extraneous material, conversion to black-and-white, cropping) that the image Georgia Ave DC.PNG constitutes a transformative work, and is thus a totally different work and falls under fair use guidelines. However, since the issue isn't that important, I have replaced it with an similarly transformed image from the Tiger map server from the U.S. Census, which definitely is public domain. Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 21:48, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

Allow me the pleasure of awarding you what is apparently your first barnstar in recognition of your outstanding contributions to Virginia State Highway articles. Great historical detail! (Feel free to change placement on your user page). - Mark in Historic Triangle of Virginia, aka User:Vaoverland

Virginia State Highways

Hello, I noticed that you are working on some of the articles for highways in Virginia. I have a few questions that I would like to ask, and I hope that they do not bother you.

  1. Is there a certain reason why you have chosen to use the generic Template:Infobox road instead of the Template:Infobox VA route as used on other pages? I find it easier to use the latter template as it is customized for the state of Virginia. But, that is just my poinion.
  2. I also find it easier to label the highway aritcles as Virginia State HIghway XX, and we have adoped that as a standard per WP:VASH. I do not have a problem with the format of State Highway XX (Virginia), but it seems cumbersome to have to use parenthesis, but again, that is just my opinion.

I want to thank you for your contributions to the project, and I look forward to working with you in the future. --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 02:38, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

I am going to try and update the VA route infobox to make it more functional, like the generic template. I feel that it is a little outdated and if I can make it a little more updated, it can be as powerful as the Infobox road template. When this is completed I will let you know. --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 13:25, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
On second thought, I have decided that the current infobox is depredicated, and that we should begin to convert over to the style that you prefer. However, I need to experiment first before I decide to go ahead with the conversion. --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 15:46, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
What I am trying to do is get the bottom portion of the route box to show the shields of the routes that come before and after the current route. Most other states that use this template have that, and I wanted to be able to do that here. If you could find out how that is done I would like to know so that I am able to customize the template to use in Virginia. --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 16:02, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the links. I will make the changes once I finish with standardizing the pngs into a common svg format. It may be a while, but I will let you know when it is finished. --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 18:12, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

RE: Virginia State Highways template

At first, I was planning on using it for all the articles, but now that you mention it, that may not be such a good idea. I know that there is no way to make it smaller, so I am thinking that I may not use it. I was thinking that I might be able to use it as a quick way to go to a certain article about a state route. It is a good idea, but the size may be too forbidding to be useful. --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 21:05, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

I have made the template hidden by default, to where you only see the heading, and can ask to see the whole table if you wish. Tell me if this is any better. --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 23:57, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

re: Trolling?

I don't understand why you have a problem with me. I'm donating my time to write articles and try to work out disputes and I get verbally abused. --NE2 05:19, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

I definitely do not have any problem with you, and I'm extremely sorry if I came as across as abusing you. I'm also donating my time (trying to help folks understand how to do things here and how things work). I have no ax to grind with you. I'm not involved in the issue you seem to be so passionate about. I didn't say you're trolling (and don't think you are). I said continuing to push your point might be perceived to be trolling (Kirill Lokshin's initial response makes me suspect he thinks this already). I'm pretty sure I'm about as sympathetic an ear as you're likely to find here. I try very hard to help people and (although I'm an admin) am very willing to help nearly anyone "fight the cabal" (which, of course, doesn't actually exist). I think you're looking for some policy to support your position, and (IMO) there isn't one. You're perfectly free to keep looking, although I've been here a good long time and you might want to listen to me. I'm offering my best advice (and, it's just my advice), which is to drop this issue. -- Rick Block (talk) 05:46, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Are we OK? Just checking in to make sure. -- Rick Block (talk) 14:50, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

VA Route shields

I think that I have hit a roadblock with these route shields. I am not getting the expected results tconverting the png to svg. I may have to settle with making everything png file. I wish I had Adobe Illustrator or Corel DRAW, because those are the best programs for what I am doing. I tried Open Office 2.0 with the extra add-ons to try and see if I could do the conversion to svg with their draw program, but so far it is a bust. --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 13:31, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

In the original Virginia route infobox, the shield size was 100px. I felt it should remain the same here. But, we can use it at 70px if you wish. --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 16:32, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

What program did you use to create those shields? I would like to know so that I can try to make a few. --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 17:12, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

I am working on most of the shields for the 3 digit routes. I will upload them when I have finished. They will look just like the ones that you have already done. --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 20:11, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
I went and modified the format of the text for the shields since then. The one you saw me upload for 143 was a test. I have only put one in:   for route 105, and if it is ok, I will try and make some more. --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 03:04, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Let me know when you are finished with the shields. I will handle all of the route boxes. And, please do not try and move any of the articles to different locations, because we already have a standard and we do not wish to change it at this time. --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 13:42, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

I would just like to thank you for all your hard work on the WikiProject. Particularly in making the SVG shields- I lack the ability to as of now, so I am very grateful. Keep up the good work. --MPD01605 (T / C) 20:11, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Naming of Virginia State highways?

Why is it that you name the new articles for state highways State Route XXX (Virginia)? We already have the naming convention Virginia State Highway XXX, and we have not changed it. --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 23:22, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I am fully aware of that, but can't we do something like Virginia State Route XX? --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 02:31, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
I would hope that you do not plan to do a mass move of all the articles that do not conform to this standard, because we already have a naming convention set up for Virginia. While it may not be a common name, there are some exceptions, this being one of them.

I hope that if they were to create a national standard, that they would be able to amend the rules for disambiguation and common names to include specific entries for naming roads, so that everyone names the pages the same. --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 12:39, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

CTB minutes templates

Greetings! I noticed you created a significant number of templates to use as part of references in highway articles. In looking at these templates, I noted that almost all of them are single use templates. Per Wikipedia:Template namespace where it says "templates are used to duplicate the same content across more than one page", this isn't really how we should be using templates. Further, the use of templates to create citations within a document is rather unusual; I've never seen it done this way before. I'd like to recommend you substitute the template texts into the respective articles for all templates of this type that you created, and then tag these templates for deletion. What do you say? --Durin 12:59, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Of the 32 you have created to date, only 8 are used more than once. 1 of them is entirely unused. If you intend on using all of these more than once, then fine. However, I still think this usage of templates is rather unusual and perhaps there is a better way of handling this. I may seek some outside input to see about this. All the best, --Durin 13:08, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Virginia List Route Shields

I personally have no load probelms, but I could do without them. I do think though that it's all or nothing, for conformity. Personally, if people can't read the word Interstate or US, then they can bring it up and we can replace them. I'll revert to your version. I appreciate you bringing it to my attention. However, if you feel that it could have US and Interstate shields, then feel free. --MPD01605 (T / C) 02:35, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Virginia SR 6 and SR 73

Begging to disagree, SR 6 is Patterson Avenue and SR 73 in Parham Road in Henrico County, Virginia. They most certainly intersect. Could the confusion arise from the fact that Henrico County (as well as Arlington County) maintains its own secondary state roads, the only two counties to do so? Patterson is signed as SR 6 and Parham as SR 73 in the county however. Vaoverland 18:00, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

  • I yield to your reply. It does cause some confusion that Henrico doesn't use numbers, but having more control of the roads than most counties has been of great benefit to planners and development. Vaoverland 15:20, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Powell River, BC vs Powell River

I reversed your disambiguation. The former is named after the latter, and for the latter there's no article yet. Similarly Campbell River and certain other placenames in BC will have a town/locality article as well as a geographic-feature article.Skookum1 18:04, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Virginia state routes

It's always been my understanding that the full article name goes in bold as the first few words of the article. But if this is not the case, and I am mistaken, then I am glad you brought it to my attention. --MPD01605 (T / C) 17:22, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

You're editing content of the infobox? Taking out cities and such? I have to disagree with that. --MPD01605 (T / C) 17:28, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Clearly. Except for example, Route 7 and Route 9, you removed the cities. Is this an error? Also, i feel that junctions is not a big deal as long as it's not so long that it's terrible. What qualifies as a major junction? Perhaps this should be on the WikiProject talk page? I'll be on in a few hours to debate. --MPD01605 (T / C) 17:34, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Double redirects

Check out the WLH[1] of the Annual Average Daily Traffic page. State Route 758 (Lee County, Virginia), State Route 623 (Bland and Tazewell Counties, Virginia), State Route 642 (Lee County, Virginia), and State Route 69 (Virginia) all link to Annual average daily traffic, which redirects to AADT, which in turn redirects to Annual Average Daily Traffic. I believe that qualifies as a double redirect. Please restore my edits. Thank you. Jfingers88 01:57, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

More pages link to the current title. But you are probably right about the capitalization. However, the other redirects will have to be corrected, and I don't have the time right now, sorry. Good luck. Jfingers88 02:02, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

NC 119 Shield

Greetings. As requested, here's a shield for NC 119:   Regards, TMF T - C 18:56, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Pipe links vs. redirects

In an edit summary for WP:MOSDAB, you said "It's also better to link to a redirect than pipe directly on articles; see Wikipedia:Redirect." How's that again? I read WP:R, and I found about about not replacing [[redirect]] with [[direct|redirect]], but no general "better than" note for redirects over pipelinks when writing content. -- JHunterJ 22:50, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

"Most especially, there should never be a need to replace redirect with redirect." Yes, that's the part I was referring to. No, that doesn't mean that's it's true when writing new content. "The link may be deliberate" clearly doesn't apply to new content, as you may deliberately write it as a pipelink. Redirects "may consolidate related information in one place" pipelinks may not, "may indicate possible future articles", pipelinks may not. Not second-guessing a previous editor does not mean not making decisions on new content. For instance, writing [[King James Version of the Bible|KJV]] may make good sense, even though KJV redirects to King James Version of the Bible. In the future, KJV might become a disambiguation page, but the pipelink will still read and work like desired. -- JHunterJ 23:04, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
But (getting past the edit summary), I think your edit to WP:MOSDAB should stay, because in the main article space there's no hard-and-fast rule either, which is what you're driving at. Thanks for the quick side conversation. :-) -- JHunterJ 23:10, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Re: Georgia state highways

Whoops, I must have over looked that. Thanks for pointing it out to me! :)--HowardSF 20:35, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Lost Virginia

This article is intended to include unincorporated communities, such as Willard, Virginia was. Since I created it, quite a bit of information has surfaced from other contributors regarding these often tiny and mostly forgotten places. I think that information could be helpful in some family roots searches wheh the names pop up in old letters, a family bible, etc. Vaoverland 01:25, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

  • I didn't know what you did with Willard, and did not intend that to be criticism, just explanatory of the unusual WP article this one is. I go a little wider on documented information in this one, basically including any place names which surface from likely reputable sources. That's all. No insult of offense intended. Keep up your fine work, please. Vaoverland 01:33, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

I-864

The source of that possible incorrect information was Scott Kozel's usually accurate website, "Roads To The Future". I have no other information to that effect and had never heard of it anywhere else. Vaoverland 01:28, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

I could have the source wrong, or site may have been corrected. It is a logical possibility, and equally logical that the communities along I-64, which was built earlier than I-664, would not want the change. Vaoverland 01:38, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

  • At first glance, that might seem likje a silly idea, but knowing local traffic, that idea makes some sense, as there has been a desire to shift thru VA Beach traffic from the HRBT to the MMBT and I-664. The mileage is almost the same, and the former is seriously overloaded whereas the latter routing still has some unused capacity. I do recall that Va Beach wanted SR-44 to get Interstate designation, and apparently was willing to settle (politically) for the I-264 designation. Vaoverland 01:55, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

This edit

My apologies. --myselfalso 02:02, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

VA-41

Hi. I'm not entirely familiar with US Navy squadron numbering, but elsewhere we refer to 41 Attack Squadron as VFA-41, or sometimes VF-41. Are you sure that VA-41 is a valid designator. You might also like to make the red-links from the disambig pages point to the existing articles, such as above. DJ Clayworth 17:33, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your reply. You cite a Wikipedia article which calls these squardons VA-21 et al. I should warn you that Wikipedia is not always a reliable source. If we look at the rest of the web, this search finds almost nothing inwhich the abbreviation of the squadron is VA-21. this search finds many references, including official US military ones, referring to the squadron as VF-21. I would strongly advise you to check which is the most commonly used abbeviation. (P.S. you can reply here - I will check this page) DJ Clayworth 17:45, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
It looks like the VA- names are mostly old - for instance, VA-20A redirects to VFA-195. --NE2 17:46, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
Here's an example: Looper5920 (Talk | contribs) (moved VA-12 to VF-12: Squadron ended in 1971 as VF-12. VA-12 should be a redirect to this. Also inline with other US Navy squadrons) --NE2 17:48, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
Again, I wouldn't rely on Wikipedia alone here. Do you have any references outside Wikipedia referring to these squadrons as VA-*? DJ Clayworth 17:49, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
Yes, [2] has some. --NE2 17:52, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Runaway bot

You're creating huge numbers of disambiguation articles, many with redlinks. Normally, you don't create disambiguation articles with redlinks; if there aren't two existing articles to disambiguate, a disambiguation article isn't needed. Is this an out-of-control 'bot, or what? Reported on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. --John Nagle 19:55, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Page Creation

Please stop until this issue can be adequetely discussed. A number of users are having issues with the redirects (I don't have a personal opinion). Thanks alphaChimp(talk) 21:30, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I was talking about those. Your reasoning seems good enough to me. I was just responding to the complaint on WP:ANI and some comments on my usertalk requesting that I take a look. If possible, can you wait a few minutes before continuing? Coincidentally, have you considered setting up a BOT account? Edits on such a large scale are almost bordering into bot territory (even if they're not automated). alphaChimp(talk) 21:40, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
OK, I've gotta sign off now. Just throttle the rate down a little and wait to see if anybody comes on ANI to complain further. As I said, I think what you're doing is fine. Sorry for interrupting, alphaChimp(talk) 21:43, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

State Highway Numbering

My bad. I haven't gotten use to the change yet. Mark Vaoverland 01:25, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Lee Hall

I am working out from the disambig page Lee Hall, which points to Lee Hall, Virginia. I noticed only three pages pointing to the Lee Hall, VA redirect and went ahead and tweaked those to point to Lee Hall, Virginia since it wasn't much work (one page had both variations). The "Disambiguation link repair - You can help!" was just my default. Sorry I din't add on to it to explain. --- Jagged 23:27, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Redirects

Personally, I would disagree since we just moved those pages... and the links aren't there on purpose for that reason... I really don't see the harm with fixing these either. But that's just me... should I stop the bot? --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 03:48, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

This question needs to be taken to a discussion page... but why in the world do the edits need to be reverted? Now that they're fixed, and now that the server's worked hard to make the changes, why the heck do we need to revert? --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 03:53, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
So in reality what is best would be [[U.S. Route 101]]. But if I do that, that breaks a lot of things, such as infoboxes. So thus the piped stuff. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 03:57, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
This is getting into the stuff like Talk:California State Route 17. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 04:03, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Well I'll leave U.S. Routes alone for now... but do you agree that state highway links like Iowa State Highway x need to be changed to Iowa xx? --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 04:17, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Do not delete comments

Please do not target one or more user's pages or talk pages for abuse or insults, unwarranted doctoring or blanking. It can be seen as vandalism and may get you blocked from editing Wikipedia. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 22:35, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

North Carolina State Highway 49

Thanks for the heads up!! That will teach me to drink beer and wiki at the same time... Appreciate the fix !! Rob110178 00:52, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

RE: External link(s)

It's basically a thing about the number of links. I prefer it due to grammatical correctness. If you want to change it back, I guess you can. There's really no set rule about it. ([3]). Happy editing! --MerovingianTalk 03:21, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Highway 33

Thanks for giving me yet another reason why I should stay away from writing, or editing, articles on Minnesota state highway articles. (Or is it "state highway articles (Minnesota)" or [[State highway articles, Minnesota|]] or however that goes?) And here I was thinking that it might be marginally safe enough to be able to handle this hot potato again. I was wrong. --Elkman - (Elkspeak) 04:07, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

What am I talking about? This. And other edits to the same page. --Elkman - (Elkspeak) 04:39, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: trolling accusation

Well, I don't think you seem like a troll, and calling you one seems a bit insulting. But it's nothing blockable at this point, you could bring it up at WP:PAIN but the admin would probably tell you the same thing. I say tell him you'd prefer not to be called a troll, point him to this diff if you want. No one should have to be called a troll just because people disagree with them. But beyond that... I dunno, the whole argument is messed up, as you probably know better than me. Don't let it keep you from making good contributions. --W.marsh 18:43, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't really know what to tell you. It seems like it's easy to rub this highways crowd the wrong way. They mostly ignore me since I just talk occasionally and never do anything related to actually moving the articles. I found this quote from your editor review kind of amusing: "It is perfectly okay to disagree with consensus, but Wikipedia operates by consensus. Without consensus we cannot get anything done. Thus, your going along with consensus would be appreciated." What does that mean... it's okay to disagree with consensus, just don't tell anyone about it?
I don't really no what else to say... I'd change the highway naming convention if I could, but right now it just seems like it's not going to change, so why really bother? I'm just going to keep pointing out that it's a bizarre and silly policy that sticks out like a sore thumb, and because of that the people responsible for it will continuously be having to answer for it, until it's fixed. --W.marsh 01:33, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

NC 143

I don't know any long-term NC highway editors, but I saw some work you've done for the project so I'll come to you first about this. I created NC 143 and will be adding an image to it soon. Part of the text comes from my internal writings for my new travel guide at American Byways to which I just photographed a few days ago and will be sharing a photo for the site. Feel free to do any corrections as you see fit. Seicer (talk) (contribs) 04:58, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Oops, I forgot all about the new naming conventions. I modeled the page off of an existing set so I'll move the newly created page tommorrow. Thanks for the heads up on the secondary route, so its probably best to dewiki it since its very minor at that. Seicer (talk) (contribs) 05:36, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Page renames

Just to note, I'm not familar with how this works, but the two SR links under the description for the AA Highway at List of Parkways and named roads in Kentucky are dead, whereas they are fine and unchanged here. Will redirects be created or how will this be done? Seicer (talk) (contribs) 23:59, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

And thanks for taking the time to do this. I would have been very slow since I don't use software outside of my browser. You should see my Watchlist now, its very, very, very long :P Seicer (talk) (contribs) 00:00, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar 2

Check your userpage. thanks for the hard work. youngamerican (ahoy-hoy) 12:42, 11 October 2006 (UTC)