August 2011

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Richard Dawkins

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You had questions about his views on morality. You were asking good questions. Mr. Dawkins poses the same questions and gives his responses in "The God Delusion". Please see The_God_Delusion#Religion_and_morality. "The God Delusion" has a large section on the subject. Here are your questions from the talk page. I've indented my understanding of Dawkins' responses, which are not necessarily mine.
Okay, so Dawkins is an outspoken atheist. I want to clarify, Does he accept that after death he wouldn't continue exist at all?

Yes. The world existed for billions of years before his birth and will continue for billions of years afterwords. Life is not a dress rehearsal.

If yes, what are his views on morality? I think this should be mentioned in the article. Logically he or any other such atheist should not have anything to do with morality. Does he hold the view that "An atheist can be moral"? If yes he is being completely illogical. Mx000f (talk) 07:32, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

From The_God_Delusion#Religion_and_morality: He then turns to the subject of morality, maintaining that we do not need religion to be good. Instead, our morality has a Darwinian explanation: altruistic genes, selected through the process of evolution, give people natural empathy. He asks, "would you commit murder, rape or robbery if you knew that no God existed?" He argues that very few people would answer "yes", undermining the claim that religion is needed to make us behave morally. In support of this view, he surveys the history of morality, arguing that there is a moral Zeitgeist that continually evolves in society, generally progressing toward liberalism. As it progresses, this moral consensus influences how religious leaders interpret their holy writings. Thus, Dawkins states, morality does not originate from the Bible, rather our moral progress informs what part of the Bible Christians accept and what they now dismiss.

So Dawkins or any other atheist, wouldn't mind murdering his mother, or raping a child, cheating people or carrying out such "criminal" activities once he is sure he can do it secretly and if he is sure that his activities will go undetected until the day he dies. Because (according to him) after death you just become zero! You don't continue to exist at all!

One needs to give your life meaning beyond your short existence. The human race continues and the only way to have any form of immortality is to build a better world that outlives your mortal coil.

He would not be held responsible for any of his acts: "good" or "bad" because he wouldn't exist at all. Words such as good, bad, trust and faith should have no meaning to him. If everything originated by chance (without any purpose) it means everything that is happening today is just without any purpose, then why does he want to put forward his opinions, which may be considered to be product of chance (Blind watchmaker)? If he believes his brain, and his body are a products of chance, why should they be given any importance.....Mx000f (talk) 07:32, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

First, mutations are only the raw material for evolution and they are the only part of evolution that is pure chance. The selection process is definitely not pure chance. Most of the changes are deleterious and selected against by kicking the animal out of the gene pool. Good ones lead to more reproducing offspring. It is similar to the breeding farmers did with crops and animals.
Humans are social animals. It helped us survive. We also build social orders that have extended the tendency for altruism and cooperation towards your blood kin to people giving their lives to protect their countrymen or dedicating their lives to social service.

He says "There is almost certainly no God." Why is he not 100% sure? How can one claim to be an outspoken atheist then?Mx000f (talk) 07:32, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Because he is a scientist and is open to changing his theory of how the world works if new evidence emerges.

--Javaweb (talk) 14:32, 3 August 2011 (UTC)JavawebReply

There is sufficient evidence that God exists. We have to be very broad-minded to see that evidence. First a systematic definition of "God" is needed. Anyway this is a talk page, I would not want to discuss more. Why doesn't the article mention his viewpoints?Mx000f (talk) 10:39, 12 August 2011 (UTC)Reply

August 2011

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Talkback

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Hello, Mx000f. You have new messages at Pstanton's talk page.
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Smoking is not healthy, no, but even more so your rant the tobacco industry and your rambles about God on my talk page are decidedly NOT neutral and don't belong in an article. Pstanton (talk) 15:41, 19 August 2011 (UTC)Reply

Okay, I think I am going to get blocked today by Talk. I AM NO LONGER INTERESTED IN CONTRIBUTING TO WIKIPEDIA, AND I AM NOT IN THE LEAST INTERESTED IN VANDALIZING IT. If you want cigarette companies to go to hell, all good wishes to you. Do whatever you fools please. I was warning people for their own benefit. GOODBYE. NO POINT IN ARGUING WITH FOOLS.Mx000f (talk) 15:50, 19 August 2011 (UTC)Reply

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