This page was created by Mark Brown and Sergio Ulgiati as a result of realizing that there was considerable controversy regarding the previous posts on emergy. The redirect of the term emergy to the embodied energy page was incorrect, since emergy is not embodied energy, thus we eliminated the redirect. Since this is our first attempt at creating a wikipedia contribution, we welcome advice and comments.Mtbrown8 (talk) 09:16, 1 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Welcome edit

Hello Mtbrown8, and welcome to Wikipedia. I hope that you have enjoyed contributing and want to stick around. Here are some tips to help you get started:

If you need any more information, plenty of help is available - check out Wikipedia:Questions; ask your question here and attract help with the code {{helpme}}; or leave me a message on my talk page explaining your problem and I will help as best as I can. Again, welcome! strdst_grl (call me Stardust) 17:37, 2 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Update of Emergy Page edit

...we have updated the page since removing the redirect as follows: Content of Emergy page was replaced by MT Brown and S Ulgiati according to a mandate received from the International Society for the Advancement of Emergy Research (ISAER) during the most recent Biennial Emergy Conference (16-18 January 2010). MT Brown is the ISAER Historian and S Ulgiati is President-elect 2010. We thank those who displayed their efforts in earlier attempts of setting up an emergy page and other related pages in Wikipedia. Suggestions on strengthening the article are welcome.Mtbrown8 (talk) 10:49, 4 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

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Emergy Articles edit

Good day! I'm just stopping by due to a report at the Conflict of Interest Noticeboard. Another editor saw that your username Mtbrown8 was very close to M.T. Brown which is named in one of the references on the Emergy Synthesis article, and was concerned that there may be a Conflict Of Interest. Looking over your contributions, they don't strike me as being in COI territory, but rather the work of a Subject Matter Expert which can only improve the encyclopedia. I would ask that you read over the COI guidelines (linked in the previous sentence) just to be safe though.

One question I do have, which may have spurred the COI report in the first place, is the user of your Encyclopedia of Energy article in support of the sentence: "Recently the emergy evaluation methodology has been named “Emergy Synthesis”". One interpretation of this is that the term Emergy Synthesis was coined by yourself or Mr Ugliati. If this is the case, can you add additional unrelated citations that show that the term is the accepted term in the field? That would dispel any concerns that the citation is promoting your own work. If this is not the case however, then a simple clarification in the sentence will accomplish the same thing.

A last item I should bring up is in regards to your main User Page. It appears to be a version of the Emergy article, though not the same as the main copy. If you are using this for "sandbox" type edits before adding them to the live article, this is fine, but the normal convention on Wikipedia is that these type of edits be done in a sub-page of your user page, and not on the main one. The main user page is where people go when they click your name in your signature, so having that appear as an article may confuse people. Ideally your main user page will contain some information about you and your on-wiki activities, interest, etc.

A user subpage would be of a form such as User:Mtbrown8/sandbox or similar names after the / character. You can move the page from its current location by clicking the little downward-pointing arrow in the upper right, (in between the Star icon and the search box) and clicking Move. It will then ask you for the destination page and a reason (for the logs). That will move the page, keeping all of the edits and edit history intact, and freeing up the original source page to be re-created.

Hope all this helps! Feel free to contact me if you have any questions. Thanks again for your contributions! ArakunemTalk 14:09, 25 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Your comment on EMERGY page edit

I just did a quick scan of that article. Only one section seems to include inline references. The other sections need to include inline citations to allow other editors to verify the content. It is simply good practice and leads to better quality articles. The fact that [{WP:OTHERSTUFF|other stuff exists]] is not a reason to not improve other articles. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:00, 16 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

September 2013 edit

  Hello, Mtbrown8. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Emergy, you may have a conflict of interest or close connection to the subject.

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Please familiarize yourself with relevant content policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. Hi, Mark! Yes, the massive screed you posted has been removed. That is because you, as a prominent researcher in this field, have a Conflict of interest on this topic, and because you posted it not as an individual but on behalf of an organisation, which is against our policies here. You were warned about this in 2010, but it wasn't then made sufficiently clear that you are strongly discouraged from making edits to any article about or relating to "emergy". You are considered to be too close to the topic to be able to write neutrally and dispassionately about it. You are of course welcome to post on the talk-pages of those articles with suggestions as to how they could be improved; any suggestions you care to make should be supported by reliable independent sources. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 22:58, 3 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion edit

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident in which you may be involved. Thank you.

I apologise for not having replied sooner to your last message on my talkpage. After reflection, I think the discussion I have started at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard#Emergy is the best way forward here, and so hope that you will take part in it. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 22:59, 10 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

I agree with JLAN, and the stuff you posted at my talk page can be moved over there (by you) if you wish. Good luck! Montanabw(talk) 19:11, 11 September 2013 (UTC)Reply