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{{unblock-ip|1=188.40.77.81|2={{blocked proxy}}: (pasting twice as I don't know if anything gets triggered on the description) This IP is my personal dedicated server. I can see hideme.ru has quite a few IPs in my hoster's range but I hope this can be handled in a less sweeping way, otherwise I have no way of making edits at all as my ISP also uses a transparent proxy that is currently blocked.|3=Materialscientist}}

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′==Are you active?== Are you still active? If so would you bother helping me with name translations from Laotian to English? --Ruling party (talk) 21:22, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi! Active, yes; up to the job, I dunno ;) I studied linguistics a long time ago and have quite a bit of theoretical knowledge about Lao but despite having lived in Laos for a while I'm afraid my Lao is very basic. I'll be happy to try though! (edit: oh, I see I'm still listed as living in Vientiane ... haven't been for two years)

Great, thank you! :) It has to do with the translation of names. I have found official listings of the central committees for the 9th, 10th and 11th tenure, but failed for the earlier. THerefore there are some names that I've failed to find translations for.

It may sound like I'm asking you to translate 163 names, but that is wrong. Most of the people in question were elected to consecutive central committees. I would presume I need you're help to translate between 45-60 names. Still a lot—I know.

In addition, I have two other lists; 1st Supreme People's Assembly of Laos and the 5th National Assembly of Laos. These lists have close to translations.

• 1st Central Committee of the Lao People's Revolutionary Party (need help with 6 names)
• 2nd Central Committee of the Lao People's Revolutionary Party (need help with 17 names)
• 3rd Central Committee of the Lao People's Revolutionary Party (need help with 35 names)
• 4th Central Committee of the Lao People's Revolutionary Party (need help with 34 names)
• 5th Central Committee of the Lao People's Revolutionary Party (need help with 28 names)
• 6th Central Committee of the Lao People's Revolutionary Party (need help with 20 names)
• 7th Central Committee of the Lao People's Revolutionary Party (need help with 18 names)
• 8th Central Committee of the Lao People's Revolutionary Party (need help with 5 names)

two other lists...

• 1st Supreme People's Assembly of Laos (more than a 100)
• 5th National Assembly of Laos (more than a 100)

I'm asking for much—I understand that—but would you be interested in helping? If we do it we'll have the name of every high-standing Lao politician from 1975 onwards, and the only place on the internet that has it (at least on the English one). --Ruling party (talk) 07:57, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

I'll add that I tried Google Translate, but the names seems to way off since I never get any hits on them on Google...

I can give it a try - to be sure, you just need the correct name in Lao, right? Bit tricky since there are two main systems of transcription and a zillion idiosyncratic ones and each of them loses at least some tone information and often also vowel length. So it takes a bit of guessing. It will only work if the names are online somewhere so I can try some spelling and see whether I find something; I don't have a clue who is who there. Sounds like an interesting job though - I've written a romanizing program for Lao but have never tried the other way round :)

So for the first assembly I found just two:

• Sisomphone Lovansay: easy, has a Wikipedia page
• Faydang Lobliayao, dito. hoewever, he's Hmong, so the page lists his name in Hmong but I have no idea how to transcribe it
• Khamsouk Keola: Khamsouk (ຄຳສຸກ) is easy but Keola I can't find
• Sithone Kommadan: should probably be "Sithone Kommadan", ສີທົນ​ ກົມມະດຳ
• Cool! :)

1. The easiest way to go would be to search up the membership of the specific terms, for instance, the 2nd Central Committee or the 2nd National Assembly (you would at least get a list of some sort in Laotian). One would have thought that this has been published somewhere on the Laotian internet, but I cannot find it.

1. Only the correct name in Lao—the English names are either official translations (or from the 2nd to 8th CC official translation by foreign governments and scholars). If there has been two or more versions of translating the names I've used Google Books to find the name most commonly used.

1. All the Politburos are referenced by sources like this one.

Again, thank you for you're kind help! I was about to give up. --Ruling party (talk) 10:52, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

I found a source which translates all the names for the 2nd Central Committee.. Can you type Lao on you're computer? --Ruling party (talk) 12:19, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Yes, no problem! I'll check that page out -- just back from an offline holiday ;)

Great! :) The pages are:

• 1st Central Committee 161
• 2nd CC 167-169
• 3rd CC 225-228
• 4th CC 248-252
• 5th CC 265-270
• 6th CC 298-301
• 7th CC 318-320
• 8th CC 338-342

I can't read Laos, but It seems the book also publishes / lists the names of the members of the Control Board / Control Commission / Inspection Commission / Inspection Board as in page 252. Am I totally wrong?

ANYHOW, I'll stop spamming you're page now. Take all the time you need.

I am very appreciative of the help you've so kindly offered! --Ruling party (talk) 09:30, 19 April 2021 (UTC)