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Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biographies

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VisualEditor newsletter—November 2014

Did you know?

VisualEditor is also available on the mobile version of Wikipedia. Login and click the pencil icon to open the page you want to edit. Click on the gear-shaped settings in the upper-right corner, to pick which editor to use. Choose "Edit" to use VisualEditor, or "Edit source" to use the wikitext editor.

It will remember whether you used wikitext or VisualEditor, and use the same editor the next time you edit an article.

The user guide has information about how to use VisualEditor. Not all features are available in Mobile Web.

Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and requests, and worked on support for editing tables and for using non-Latin languages. Their weekly updates are posted on Mediawiki.org. Informal notes from the recent quarterly review were posted on Meta.

Recent improvements

The French Wikipedia should see better search results for links, templates, and media because the new search engine was turned on for everyone there. This change is expected at the Chinese and German Wikipedias next week, and eventually at the English Wikipedia.

The "pawn" system has been mostly replaced. Bugs in this system sometimes added a chess pawn character to wikitext. The replacement provides better support for non-Latin languages, with full support hopefully coming soon.

VisualEditor is now provided to editors who use Internet Explorer 10 or 11 on desktop and mobile devices. Internet Explorer 9 is not supported yet.

The keyboard shortcuts for items in the toolbar's menus are now shown in the menus. VisualEditor will replace the existing design with a new theme from the User Experience / Design group. The appearance of dialogs has already changed in one Mobile version. The appearance on desktops will change soon. (You can see a developer preview of the old "Apex" design and the new "MediaWiki" theme which will replace it.)

Several bugs were fixed for internal and external links. Improvements to MediaWiki's search solved an annoying problem: If you searched for the full name of the page or file that you wanted to link, sometimes the search program could not find the page. A link inside a template, to a local page that does not exist, will now show red, exactly as it does when reading the page. Due to a error, for about two weeks this also affected all external links inside templates. Opening an auto-numbered link node like [1] with the keyboard used to open the wrong link tool. These problems have all been fixed.

TemplateData

The tool for quickly editing TemplateData will be deployed to all Wikimedia Foundation wikis on Thursday, 6 November.  This tool is already available on the biggest 40 Wikipedias, and now all wikis will have access to it. This tool makes it easier to add TemplateData to the template's documentation.  When the tool is enabled, it will add a button above every editing window for a template (including documentation subpages). To use it, edit the template or a subpage, and then click the "Edit template data" button at the top.  Read the help page for TemplateData. You can test the TemplateData editor in a sandbox at Mediawiki.org. Remember that TemplateData should be placed either on a documentation subpage or on the template page itself. Only one block of TemplateData will be used per template.

You can use the new autovalue setting to pre-load a value into a template. This can be used to substitute dates, as in this example, or to add the most common response for that parameter. The autovalue can be easily overridden by the editor, by typing something else in the field.

In TemplateData, you may define a parameter as "required". The template dialog in VisualEditor will warn editors if they leave a "required" parameter empty, and they will not be able to delete that parameter. If the template can function without this parameter, then please mark it as "suggested" or "optional" in TemplateData instead.

Looking ahead

Basic support for inserting tables and changing the number of rows and columns in tables will appear next Wednesday. Advanced features, like dragging columns to different places, will be possible later. The VisualEditor team plans to add auto-fill features for citations soon. To help editors find the most important items more quickly, some items in the toolbar menus will be hidden behind a "More" item, such as "underlining" in the styling menu. The appearance of the media search dialog will improve, to make picking between possible images easier and more visual. The team posts details about planned work on the VisualEditor roadmap.

The user guide will be updated soon to add information about editing tables. The translations for most languages except Spanish, French, and Dutch are significantly out of date. Please help complete the current translations for users who speak your language. Talk to us if you need help exporting the translated guide to your wiki.

You can influence VisualEditor's design. Tell the VisualEditor team what you want changed during the office hours via IRC. The next sessions are on Wednesday, 19 November at 16:00 UTC and on Wednesday 7 January 2015 at 22:00 UTC. You can also share your ideas at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.

Also, user experience researcher Abbey Ripstra is looking for editors to show her how they edit Wikipedia. Please sign up for the research program if you would like to hear about opportunities.

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Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Neutral point of view

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LotV

Doned. ^{Snake bgd} 14:25, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Nice! Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 14:33, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Template:Convert/q

You deleted Template:Convert/q (good), but you might like to do the same to Template:Convert/q/doc. Johnuniq (talk) 06:19, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, and done! Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 10:41, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

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Template:Infobox T&W Metro station

Please reconsider your closure at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2014 October 24#Template:Infobox T&W Metro station. There are only two "keep" comments both of which refer to the nominated template's specific parameters, ignoring the fact that the proposal is to merge them into a more generic template. Neither of the commentors responded when this was pointed out to them. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:11, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. I'm going to consider it, and drop you a note when I'm done considering Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 14:58, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

I can't say there is consensus; there isn't, but the merge points haven't really been addressed. I've re-listed the discussion such that consensus may still emerge. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 21:05, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:11, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Clarification please

Thinking again, MH, your edit at Plastisporks re me [2] does not help. If you can specify a problematic issue with me, preferably with diff or quote and clarification, I could correct or defend that. Without that, I maintain that I am working careful. To be precise, throwing around "like asses" without backup can show someone being an ass indeed, but it might not be me. -DePiep (talk) 17:02, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

I was busy writing a response there when you left me the note here, which is now up there, which I hope clarifies my thoughts. If it doesn't don't hesitate to ask again. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 17:09, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

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Additional info on Sophie Hunter

Hello! I just found out that Sophie Hunter has released another music album in 2011 which Guy Chambers wrote. I would just like to request for you to add it in her page. In the lead paragraph, body, and discography section. Here are the sources http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/reviews/album-guy-chambers--sophie-hunter-songs-for-a-boy-sleeper-sounds-2308594.html and https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/songs-for-a-boy-ep/id442687025

Lead paragraph should read

Hunter has also acted on stage and screen. In addition, she has released her French-language music album The Isis Project (2005) and the English-language Songs for a Boy (2011) both in collaboration with songwriter Guy Chambers.

Career section

In addition to directing, she has also acted in film, television and theatre and has released her French-language music album The Isis Project (2005) and the English-language Songs for a Boy (2011) both in collaboration with songwriter Guy Chambers.

And please do add a table in her discography now that she has two released albums.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH! 95.104.119.77 (talk) 10:34, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Template:Infobox rockunit

Re Template:Infobox rockunit this - I assume the "merge" was a mistype. Vsmith (talk) 14:22, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Surprise outcome! Merge! Yes, that was a typo, thanks for double checking. I did it right on landform at least. Sorry for the inconvenience. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 14:41, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

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