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See WP:DYK to find out about the process involved with getting the article in the DYK column. I can nominate it for you if you'd like. As for the fair use image I would just upload it myself, if I were you. I could try to upload it if you want, as well. There's no guarantee it would stay though, fair use can be tough to claim around here, sometimes. Do note that FU images cannot appear on the front page. Let me know what you think, I will watch this page so you can respond here if you'd like, or you can just reply on my page. Your article does meet the criteria for DYK on its face, just so you know. The nomination process would smooth out any issues, regardless of whether you want me to nominate it or not I would encourage you to take a look at the DYK page just to familiarize yourself with it. No worries about asking for my help, I'm glad to help out. IvoShandor (talk) 05:36, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

I thought that might be the case, I am unsure how long that takes. Give me a link to the photo you're trying to upload and I'll do it for you. IvoShandor (talk) 07:52, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

I've got the link, pulled it from Files for Upload. Do you have the original source information? That will help me with fair use rationale, also, is there a link to the original source online? If we're sure this is the only known picture available outside of what the family might retain, it should be fairly easy to rationalize it's use on Wikipedia. The reasoning of it being low quality doesn't make any sense, fair use images are supposed to be of low quality.IvoShandor (talk) 11:09, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

In addition did you have a "hook" in mind for DYK? I was thinking on a couple, such as:

DYK . . . that while attempting to cross the U.S.-Canadian border in 1993 Thomas Lavy declared he had 130 grams of ricin poison?

DYK . . . that while awaiting prosecution under the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act Thomas Lavy committed suicide in his jail cell?

DYK . . . that Thomas Lavy was arrested by the FBI for possession of ricin two years after declaring he had 130 grams of the poision at the U.S.-Canadian border?

Typically, you want the DYK hook to be under 150 characters and, obviously, be attention grabbing. These are just a few that jumped out at me reading the article.IvoShandor (talk) 11:16, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

I added the image, have you thought about any hooks for DYK. Don't worry too much about the bots, and opt out of that disambig one, it's annoying as all get out, heh. If you're new, which you seem to know your way around a bit, one good way to figure out the nuances is to just click the edit button and see what other editors are doing as far as wiki markup, I did it countless times early on. Of course, you may have already figured this out. IvoShandor (talk) 08:56, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

"span" is an html tag of some kind, I am not sure what it does. Did you think about a DYK "hook", any of my examples acceptable? Our five day window on new article creation closes today, so if we don't nominate it today it is a no-go. IvoShandor (talk) 12:47, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

(unindent)I went ahead and nominated the article, you can see it at this page: Template:Did you know nominations/Thomas Lavy, if you have any "hooks" to suggest add them there, following the format shown, alt3: etc. I just added the three hooks I suggested above. IvoShandor (talk) 13:53, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

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I know of the two listed in the BWATA article. One being the 1991-1995 case involving the Minnesota Patriots Council and the man convicted in 1997 of possessing ricing and nicotine sulfate, he was sentenced to twelve years. There is this other interesting case. Back in 1990 a group calling itself "The Breeders" claimed to have performed a mass release of Mediterranean fruit flies in the Los Angeles area. These flies attacked fruit crops and there is some evidence that they had something to do with the infestation. If I dig up anything else, I'll let you know. IvoShandor (talk) 16:51, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

There is also some similar material on incidents already on Wikipedia. Such as, Wood Green ricin plot, and 2003 ricin letters (which I wrote). Linked in the "Wood Green" article's see also is Casey Cutler who was arrested in a ricin plot, the article is short and a perfect candidate for expansion.IvoShandor (talk) 17:00, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Ooh, I was going to say that I explained myself poorly, Ricin wasn't of any interest; just simple folk who got raided by the FBI and such; but that story of The Breeders is interesting. I see there is already a barebones article at Agro-terrorism but I think you may have found my next project...see if anyone was ever arrested/investigated, and do a full article on it. MajickJonson (talk) 17:05, 19 February 2012 (UTC) (I also figured out you need four, not five, ~s to sign your name, oops!)

Excellent, I;ve been wanting to see an article done, or do one myself on that topic for a long time. I'm not sure where you'd put it at, maybe The Breeders (group) or 1989 medfly infestation (which would cover more than just The Breeders aspect I suppose. Those are just a couple suggestions, if you were going to start a new article, if you're just going to add it Agroterrorism, ignore my suggestions. IvoShandor (talk) 17:20, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Nice work, that's what I call collaboration. I will smooth it out some and some wikilinks a bit later. IvoShandor (talk) 20:26, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm sure I can come up with something. Excellent indeed. Felt like we were comedians just riffin' off each other on some podcasst. That article is looking good, needs a few tweaks and I'll clean up the references so they all look nice and uniform, a copy edit or two, and it's pretty close. We'll nominate it for DYK too. IvoShandor (talk) 01:49, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

My most jealous was that you found the text of the classified ad they ran, I looked and couldn't find it...it turns out to be in a book I used for the Lavy footnotes! Haha...wish I could have found the full text of their two-page letter, but seemingly it's been lost to time. MajickJonson (talk) 02:06, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

I don't know what your level of wiki experience is but I know when I started out that was my big rabbit hole, article ideas jumping out of sources I used for other articles! That classified find was on purpose, once i found out there was a classified ad in the LA Times, I had to find the text. Ha! As far as the letter, because the wiki has no deadline we could try to dig it up. This case is 20+ years old. Chances are the FBI and/or the LAPD has photographs of the letter and one of them probably still has the letter. We could FOIA it, just so happens I'm well versed in filing FOIA requests, if they have any information, they'll probably be obligated to give it up. IvoShandor (talk) 02:22, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

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