Kolma8

Deadrise and extreme clippers

I note you dealt with the citation needed in Flying Cloud (clipper). Do you happen to know the origin of the amount of deadrise as a defining feature of an extreme clipper? The reason for asking is that it appears to be a completely useless rule - based on an examination of Chapelle's The Search for Speed Under Sail, Cutler's Greyhounds of the Sea and numerous books and articles by David MacGregor. These experts produce the view that if there is significant deadrise in the mid-ship section, then a sailing vessel cannot be driven hard in strong winds. This is particularly dealt with by MacGregor in his British and American Clippers, pg 17 onwards. He discusses there the possible use of the block coefficient to assess fineness. Chapelle goes for prismatic coefficient. However, given the absence of lines or full information on many ships, MacGregor's solution of his "coefficient of under-deck tonnage" seems to have merit (as discussed in The Tea Clippers).

There is, unfortunately, a lot of nonsense written about clippers (Eric Kentley's book on the Cutty Sark seems one of the worst) - even Lubbock can be shown to make errors (for instance listing 25 clippers built in 1869 as extreme clippers when many in his list can clearly be demonstrated as nothing of the kind - see Fast Sailing Ships pg253). Hence the question above, in an effort to sort out which sources are reliable and which are not.ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 12:58, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

At ThoughtIdRetired (talk) Yeah, I looked through old American newspapers of 1840s and 1850s and couldn't find any references to "extreme clippers" just "clippers" much less about the deadrise definition. I will take another look...but it seems to me that the definition came out later from MacGregor and made its way into the literature. As a note, I always thought about the deadrise as an angle, not something measured in inches. Thank you for the interest in the subject. I will let you know if I'll find something./k8 07:41, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

I think one of the writers on clippers who is focused on the amount of dead-rise is Arthur H Clark in the Clipper Ship era (which was written in 1911). Clark was the captain of various sailing ships and therefore we could perhaps look to him for details of the management of a ship under sail and the commercial aspects of operation. By comparison, Chapelle was trained as a naval architect, and David MacGregor was a Marine Historian who understood enough of ship design to be able to draw a set of lines from the builder's offsets (among other things). These are people to whom I would look for the implications of slight nuances of hull shape. If, as you suggest, definition of an extreme clipper in terms of dead-rise came later, then that might be due to a misreading of Clark making comparisons between various clippers.ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 16:38, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Star for you!

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	for your tireless work at WP:AfD. Helping to make Wikipedia the best encyclopaedia. Spiderone 14:50, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Don't you give up

Yes, with the AfDs and PRODs. B.Bhargava Teja has created a bunch of articles violating WP:NFILM, so you could AfD them and notify me or Ab207 on every AfD. I've already started with Joo Laka Taka. --Kailash29792 (talk) 09:46, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Will do! Kolma8 (talk) 10:41, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

In case you didn't know--- You can check your AFD statistics here. -- Otr500 (talk) 16:32, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Kailash29792/Ab207, Niajm is another one. I have nominated some of his one sentence WP articles about Malayalam films for PROD.Kolma8 (talk) 16:07, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

• You are doing a good job by weeding out non notable thrash outta the encyclopedia and do not let anyone discourage you. Even the best of us make unimaginable errors, no one is perfect, so don’t you ever be discouraged. Celestina007 (talk) 00:18, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

I echo what a lot of others have said. Wikipedia is built on notability and verifiability. We shouldn't be hosting non-notable or unverifiable info. Full stop. Spiderone 22:39, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

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Hi, unfortunately a number of your contributions at film afds this week have been perfunctory three word votes using a rapid vote script. I've nominated the script for deletion, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 04:01, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

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Choosing MEDRS sources

Please read through WP:MEDRS as the source quality needed for medical content. 'Peer-review' isn't the only qualifier, as explained in WP:MEDASSESS. The journal 'Nutrients' is highly disregarded as likely predatory - see the MDPI article - the publisher of many open-access journals which are not peer-reviewed, and in many cases, the authors actually pay to have the article published in support of building their CVs. Also, do not edit war, WP:WAR, WP:3RR. Zefr (talk) 13:45, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

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You are acting like a child, stop reverting my edits. Kolma8 (talk) 23:49, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

@Zafr, the current information about the insufficiency and deficiency in the article is not complete and you know it, yet you are continuing reverting my edits on the second topic now. Stop your abusive behavior! Kolma8 (talk) 23:51, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

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