GuitarGeek

Randy Rhoads

I tweaked your contribution to Randy Rhoads should be fine now. Cheers Mlpearc (powwow)(Review me !) 16:29, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up! I'm new to contributing to Wikipedia and this is very helpful to understand making correct entries. Jetpack66 (talk) 05:16, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

No problem at all, if you have any questions please feel free to ask, I'll will try and help as much as I can, or find someone who can. Cheer's. Mlpearc (powwow)(Review me !) 00:06, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

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Please check out your most recent edits at WP:RSN

Hi, surely it wasn't your intention, but the first of these three edits you just did at WP:RSN: diff messed up a number of other peoples' conversations. I undid your edits, could you please check out what happened and re-apply just the edits you meant to make? Thanks.... Zad68 14:33, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks and sorry! Still new to editing Wikipedia Jetpack66 (talk) 14:49, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

No problem! Looks like you had the WP:RSN page open for a long time, like hours or maybe overnight, made your changes and then saved, and overwrote stuff other people did while you had it open. It's "edit conflict", the editor should warn you if the page you're editing has changed while you're editing it. If that happens, you'll have to be careful to not overwrite changes other people have made when saving. Zad68 15:05, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

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Please stop adding inappropriate external links to Wikipedia, as you did to Randy Rhoads. It is considered spamming and Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising or promotion. Because Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, additions of links to Wikipedia will not alter search engine rankings. If you continue spamming, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Mlpearc (powwow)(Review me !) 20:53, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the note Mlpearc. I guess it's a fine line between crediting sources and spamming huh? I'm actually following your post example/edit on other contributions - I really want to get this right and I do appreciate the feedback. Please check my recent edit to the Rhoads page and let me know if it's appropriate. Jetpack66 (talk) 21:24, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

At the suggestion of another experienced editor, I added proper credits in the Rhoads ref link. Jetpack66 (talk) 23:06, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Links such as the one in this case needs to be added in the form of a reference or added to the External links section. Mlpearc (powwow)(Review me !) 00:22, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

P.S. Now that I can see your trying to do the right thing the warning I posted can be removed. Mlpearc (powwow)(Review me !) 00:27, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

I think we are good now, huh? Thanks for your help and, most of all, patience. I can move forward feeling good that I'm adding and not subtracting from the site :) Jetpack66 (talk) 00:57, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

GuitarGeek

Two questions regarding your revision of an edit you made at Mastodon (band). First, can you point me towards a featured article where this trivia is listed? If you could, I would definitely reconsider my edit. Secondly however, can you demonstrate that GuitarGeek passes WP:RS? If it can't, all references to it need to be removed from Wikipedia. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 23:12, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the note.

The founder of GuitarGeek.Com, Adam Cooper, contributed to GuitarWorld's Vulgar Display of Power Section for 10 years and has interviewed hundreds of famous players regarding their gear. Rig info is from actual interviews with the guitarists and/or their techs. GuitarGeek has been online since 1995 and Adam has deep ties with the music industry and is a credible source. His rig diagrams have appeared in GuitarPlayer, Total Guitar UK, Guitarist, Alternative Press, History of Marshall Amplifiers, Roland/Boss User Guides, Ibanez Steve Vai Jemini & Paul Gilbert Airplane Flanger Instruction Manuals. He has interviewed everyone from Slash to Kirk Hammett to Def Leppard. As for Mastodon, Brent and his tech were interviewed for this setup and the site/rig specifically states this.

The gear lists located above the Guitar Rig Sub-Section checks out with magazine gear interviews over the past few years.

After looking at other popular band pages, this equipment/gear info might be more appropriate under the individual artist's pages.Jetpack66 (talk) 23:33, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

OK, that's all absolutely fine; it easily passes WP:RS. However, my main issue isn't so much that the information isn't accurate, simply that it is inappropriate to list it in the article. Wikipedia is not a manual or guidebook, and I cannot find any featured, or even good band articles that include this information. These are the yardsticks by which we should be judging article content and what we should be aspiring to. The Mastodon article could easily get to that stage with some hard work, sourcing and copy-editing (which is what I was starting to do, using the Opeth and Strapping Young Lad articles as models) and that was an obvious section to delete. If you do come across a fatured article that contains all that technical info for a band, please let me know and we'll restore it. Otherwise, keep up the good work (I do always appreciate it when people source their additions!). Blackmetalbaz (talk) 08:44, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, only just read your last sentence... yes, you are probably right there! Blackmetalbaz (talk) 08:46, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

In reply, to your re-addition at MBV and the conversation above, a couple of little pointers,

The phrasing used in MBV is wrong for what you added, "detailed gear diagram of Kevin Shield's 1991 My Bloody Valentine guitar rig is well-documented", the reference is for his gear, is as you point out above an RS but not a reference for being well documented

You could use "Shields has used" and list what is in the reference using the ref.This is common and is allowed (incasse anyone qoutes WP:LIST

Also as you have been on a while yet no one has done it welcome. Murry1975 (talk) 05:56, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Hello, I've had conflicting suggestions on how to phrase these guitar setup contributions. Based on previous advice on some of the more well-know artist pages, we came up with the "detailed gear diagram of - insert artist - guitar rig is well-documented." That seems to be the phrasing that was accepted across the board. That said, I'm certainly welcome to other suggestions! :) Jetpack66 (talk) 19:12, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

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