User talk:JarrahTree/Archive 26

Kings Park

Thanks for fixing that problem the other day Gnangarra 00:17, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Whether they want it there or not, its there and its a sufficiently notiable event that its inclusion within the article is warranted. Besides its a tribute to not only the victims but to the people of Perth who assisted with aftermath. My vague often proven wrong memory is that there was controversy before it was built but since I dont recall anything. If there is maybe that should be noted within the article. Gnangarra 00:27, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Rats

If you want to play around, that's why the sandbox is there. If you choose to use articlespace for nonsense, then be aware your article may be speedily deleted. There is alreay a perfectly good article on rats (I've read it and I know) that already discusses what you want to say. Denni ^talk 00:53, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

I moved to your user space User:SatuSuro/Rats in popular culture that should let developement without speedy and afds. Gnangarra 01:30, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

No problem if you want I'll delete it then. Gnangarra 01:37, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Significantly different to the problem thats occured with OA as the OA was more about recent exploitation of the animal as an movie character as opposed to long held historical cultural references. I would think that the article could still have a place as. Gnangarra 01:40, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

No problems 28th still dont have details so make what ever arrangement you want, if it doesnt happen match up we'll just organise another time. enjoy freo Gnangarra 01:58, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes - what have I done now?Fancyfootwork 02:14, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

I realise Im not up with the format properly yet. I am trying to get as much down before I forget it and come back later to fix it all up as I work out how to do things properly. I am trying to look at the edited text on other pages to see how to do things properly.

Maybe if there was a template page somewhere which could be cut and pasted to new pages to get going better, this would help - do you know of one?

New article: Krakatoa in media and popular culture

Did I tell you i created this? Krakatoa now looks lovely. :-) I could get used to this create-a-pop-culture-page thing.

Tellingly (and thus for me quite humourously), there has been no sign of that guy pushing the pop culture section in Orang hutan.

By the way, look at my diffs on Krakatoa [1]. How did those ET and Byron Soames and 'Pralappe' sections get through? There is nothing on Google. Should i contact the editor? He is a regualar contributor. [2] NutsMerbabu 03:40, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Reply to email

There is a policy against offensive user names etc. See WP:USERNAME. Offensive names can be reported at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User names. Has he (she?) done anything else to warrant a complaint at this stage? Grant65 | Talk 14:55, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

28th Dec

Details have just been sent on email, hopefully contact can be established. Gnangarra 15:11, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Novice Alert

Thank you - orderinchaos has done some good work to my pages so thats good. It would seem that there is never enough cooks in the kitchen so if you have some constructive criticism i would be more than interested in hearing it. Was it happy feet you took the kids to today? Fancyfootwork 15:37, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Mine are only 2 & 4 so I havnt considered taking them to borat yet. I have, however, indulged. I cant believe im up so late. Fancyfootwork 15:51, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

are you still doing it? this bot is out of control Fancyfootwork 15:53, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

All fixed Gnangarra 16:29, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Volcano names

Yes, you may, but watch out of breaking up links. — Indon (reply) — 23:16, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't reply your question here, but yes, if you have synonyms or acronyms, you can simply put them in the first paragraph of the lead, per WP:LS. Oh, thanks for adding volcanic stubs into the WP:INA project. I have to create a lot of stubs for the WP:FLC. — Indon (reply) — 13:48, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

User thewinchester.

In response to the message you left at User:thewinchester's page:

With messages like this - (a) remind that sandbox is the area to create articles if they dont want speedy deletion (B) remind them of WP:Civility (c) if they persist or start using emotive language - never respond - pass on to admins User:SatuSuro 22:58, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

I was unable to determine who you were adressing. User thewinchester is the individual who called me a "moron". I merely quoted what he had called me and used it as a header on his/her discussion page. I think it is in particularly bad form to hurl insults at other editors and call names, especially for such trivial things my inability to get my stub "up to his or her standard" five minutes after I created the stub.

I am also aware of how to use the sandbox. However, I often complete the article and save it directly before adding my sources and references and pictures (when I use them). While I understand that it is probably much better to finish this before saving the article, I simply work better this way. I simply took issue with being called a "moron" and a somewhat protracted goading minutes after completion of the article to bring it up to his/her standard.

One can get a point across without being abrasive. ExRat 02:26, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

1595 image of Java map

I'm sure this draw some interest displayed on your talk page Gnangarra 10:44, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

thx

That worked, back to uploading images. got some images of maps of wa coast c1650. Gnangarra 11:42, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

have a look at this list I copied it from a photo taken today at the maritime museum Gnangarra 12:06, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Tryall wasn't a VOC ship. And where the hell is 't Wapen van Hoorn?! Hesperian 12:18, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Voc wa list 01 gnangarra.jpg poor image of source for list Gnangarra 12:40, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Sad, sad...

Useless article for useless article's sake - Metropolitan boundary, Western Australia. Appears to have been created solely to un-redlink the words "Metropolitan boundary, Western Australia" in a malfunctioning template. And yep, liked your changes to Watermans :) Orderinchaos78 18:08, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Ecology of Banksia

No need to apologise. This article is supposed to have an Australian perspective. The occasional section is WA-centric, but that is because I wrote it, and I am guilty of being a one-eyed West Australian. Hopefully once the article is finished it will be suitably balanced.

I've tagged all the WA species of Banksia into the WA project, but left Banksia, Taxonomy of Banksia, Ecology of Banksia, etc, out, because they are supposed to have an Australia-wide perspective.

Hope that makes sense.

Hesperian 04:56, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Canning Stock Route

That's ok, wikipedia wasn't built in a day... SauliH 16:17, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

and waiting

Have I forgotten something. Or should I say, something else.

Watching something at the mo. 124.187.150.76 drongo! Trying to spook him.

Finally got adsl. hurrah! Fred

Indigenous Australians

I responded at AIV (your post may end up getting removed, as it's not totally clear cut). Took another look and if he reinserts the edit today I can block him for 3RR as well as semi-protecting. Please don't hesitate to call my attention to it personally if I miss something. I have a very low tolerance for the type of attack he posted at User:Gnangarra. Just to help me out, what is the issue exactly? My read is that one, now hotly disputed, 18th century writer said that the aborigine's practiced canabalism? And he is re-inserting it for avowedly racist reasons? Let me know if my read is wrong, as I know very little about this particular history. Cheers. Dina 16:32, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

thanks Gnangarra 17:35, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

responded in kind Gnangarra

np :) -- Longhair\^talk 04:46, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Check your email. - Longhair\^talk 04:58, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

It's a difficult problem (which would disappear the moment anonymous editing did), which has landed me before the ArbCom before. See Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Gundagai editors for how I've dealt with the matter in times past. I recommened other avenues of dispute resolution first, but as your editor shows little interest in playing by any rules, so be it. The ArbCom may very well be interested. -- Longhair\^talk 05:23, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't envy your position. It tooks me (us) months before the behaviour was stamped upon. Now the ArbCom has a precedent to work with, it may not be a long wait at all. Another topic you may wish to review is Wikipedia:Disruptive editing. -- Longhair\^talk 05:30, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks (re TP jargon)

I've placed the source docs up at my sandbox for now. Any sense you can make of them (and for anyone else who is interested too) would be appreciated :) Orderinchaos78 21:44, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Tasmania/Hobart WikiProject

Sorry I've been out of touch for a few days! What I was hoping would happen, is that WP Hobart would be moved/renamed to WP Tasmania, and the scope extended the same - from just the city Hobart to all of Tasmania. I think that doubling up with two projects would be a bit too much for somewhere the size of Tasmania. Once it is moved, if you want to re-format the pages that is no problem! -- Chuq 00:54, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

I've just made the required changes to {{WP Australia}} to reflect the necessary changes for WP:TAS. -- Longhair\^talk 02:03, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Both hobart=yes and Tasmania=yes will function, see Talk:Hobart. -- Longhair\^talk 02:05, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Hehe. How dare you insist I ignore messages :) Some just require my attention quickly, others can wait I'm sure... :) -- Longhair\^talk 02:06, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Sometimes when editors get themselves in knots, it's best to leave them, for they work out the issues themselves. That worked out ok didn't it, or should I give the matter a looksee? :) -- Longhair\^talk 02:11, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

The WP:TAS redlinks (in appropriate places) await your initial edits ;) -- Longhair\^talk 02:15, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh, one more thing. Every talk page previously tagged with hobart=yes has automatically worked itself into your relevant WP:TAS category. I call it wiki-magic ;) -- Longhair\^talk 02:16, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

cj and Longhair seem to be in agreement, so I will move the page(s) now! -- Chuq 02:25, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

I guess the main things are re-arranging things on the proj pages themselves, and fixing links to the proj page. Most of the 'links to' will from the {{WP Australia}} links on the top of talk pages, these could be changed with a bot. The first thing I was going to do was to start a 'related changes' page under the proj page, so if you want to tackle anything else apart from that then go for it! -- Chuq 02:35, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm happy to help with the transition, and with linking articles :) Satu and I are becoming project veterans I think! Orderinchaos78 11:48, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: Tassie

Thanks for the heads up. I might feel obliged to start WikiProject South Australia soon to keep up with all you interstaters ;-).--cj | talk 01:21, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

that'll leave Queensland and NSW to catchup with the rest of the country Gnangarra 01:44, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

discussion off topic

you have mail, Gnangarra 01:43, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Presidential and VP templates.

Hi Satu. Can you provide comment here [3] on templates that have been put into the Indoensia presidential and VP biographies - if you can. Please read my comments. While I think the new templates are good (complete and they look much nicer compared to the other) we can't have two templates and compared to the existing, the new ones lose the chronological order and do not show the president at the time.Merbabu 02:31, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Re Indon's edit summaries, is he trying to say he thinks they are equivalent to the categories? ;-) --Merbabu 11:41, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

lol - my comment above was said tongue in cheek - ie, I thought it was very clear. Merbabu 12:17, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

No problem. Thanks for the huge number you have done. (Caniago 04:07, 29 December 2006 (UTC))

Statoid

I checked out the statoid issue. Seemed like a silly argument over semantics. Which is correct? "January 2 is, after January 1, the second day of the year"; or "January 2 is, after January 1, the first day of the year". I think I'll leave discussions like that to the anons; I don't intend to sully my hands with that kind of nonsense unless it becomes disruptive.

Re: your email, thanks for the wider context. I'm not going to try to plug every hole now, but I don't mind plugging them as they leak. Hesperian 12:18, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

WPI tag

I don't think it is wise to tag also Category pages. We have already hundreds of articles in the project. — Indon (reply) — 15:35, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Kompas

So you were once interviewed by Kompas? When was it? Here in Holland we have access to older issues of this newspaper :-) BTW, do you know Dr. George Quinn? Cheers! (tiru-tiru) Meursault2004 15:49, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Re:Photo caption

It is not really need a link with the caption as there have been some such links in the article. --Alfeewusy 16:54, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Sister projects

I knew what the problem is before I'd even looked, as I have made that mistake myself many times. Hesperian 03:09, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WA Meetup

You accidently created this within article space. I've moved it to a more suitable home, now found at Wikipedia:WA Meetup. -- Longhair\^talk 04:29, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm happy to help wherever help is needed. I've got some minor things to attend to outside in the real world for a moment but I'll be back on shortly to help you guys out wherever it's needed. -- Longhair\^talk 04:31, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Haha sounds cool! Some of the other meetups have been in places with free networked internet. Reminds me of old IRC meetups in the mid-90s where everyone would be awkwardly antisocial for a few hours then would hop on the computers and chat to each other there :P I think our mob are pretty grounded though. Somewhere with food would be good :) Orderinchaos78 07:04, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Cool - I'm cleaning out links to WP Hobart at the moment so they point to the right place, and then am hoping to get some other stuff done (like the long-delayed Harvey review). Orderinchaos78 08:40, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi I see that problem occured last evening but very nice admins steped in and cleanup the mess, as for the meetup it would need to be at Wikipedia:WikiProject Western Australia/WA Meetup to get the nav link you were asking about. Enjoy the movie Gnangarra 09:00, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

I've deleted Talk:WA Meetup. -- Longhair\^talk 10:49, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Double dare!

Re [4], i dare you to put the {{portal|Indonesia}} in the main page. lol. (Actually, I shouldn't make light of a terrible situation.) Merbabu 14:59, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Woo hoo!

[5]. But there is still so much further to go. And omo sebua actually only refers to the chiefs house. Well, that is the internet for you! Merbabu 15:28, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Help Please

Hey man, ive noticed you seem a little interested in Wesley College, Perth article, im quite interested in Aquinas College, Perth Article, and would much appreciate any help you can offer there (even if its cleanup). Thanks Smbarnzy 16:47, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

List of

I don't know. It seems that the FLC only consists of comments. More appropriate to be placed in the article's talk page. I thought that a WP:LIST article focuses more on the list, not in the written part which only a small fraction. For me, I appreciate more Caniago's comment on the factual data, rather than nitpicking on the prose. Honestly, I don't know what is the high standard of prose for Wikipedia. It's the only criterion I hate for. An encyclopaedia should give a clear understanding to a common reader, isn't it? It is not about writing prose for grant proposal or your thesis. Damned! Hey, btw, why do you wake up so late tonight? It is not yet new year eve in Australia isn't it? hehehe. — Indon (reply) — 17:22, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey, matur nuwun for the article. I've been trying to find out. I'll make a map and put some writing there. How about the map I just created a few days ago here: Image:Sumatra Volcanoes.png. BTW, I was a bit intrigued by Merbabu comment that you don't dare to put that portal. I'm just teasing him that I dare to put it, hahaha. :-) — Indon (reply) — 17:32, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Consensus of one

Don't want anyone to think this was resolved in any way. Especially new users. Newer users. Why didn't you change it back? be bold

Have you seen transhumanist all in one help page. You might have something to contribute. It is the best, or most reiterated, bits of the 100 or so help pages. Actually helpful?! Browser comparison is interesting. Virtual fish need attention now. Fred 17:45, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: Happy New Year

And happy new year to you too! I monitor Category:Unassessed rail transport articles on a daily basis, rating articles as they are added there. The grading scheme is described in Wikipedia:WikiProject Trains/Assessment#Instructions; while the quality ratings are pretty uniform across projects, the key with the importance rating for the {{TrainsWikiProject}} banner is to consider the subject's importance to rail transport history and technology on a worldwide scale. While the overwhelming majority of the ratings that I've assigned have been accepted by the community, I don't consider myself the ratings gatekeeper (I'm just the editor who's been doing most of them for WP:TWP), and a few of my assessments have been overruled by other editors.

As a quick aside, when there aren't any suggestions for the Trains portal Did you know section, I look in the unassessed category to find new articles that would be suitable for that section, like I did today. Slambo (Speak) 18:57, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Happy new year to you too! I've been having fun editing an article for a US boyband that is up for AfD. Seems they are notable indeed - but one wouldn't know it from the prose. :| I'll just put in what I can and let others decide what needs to be removed, I think. Orderinchaos78 02:48, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

The Westerner

Sorry, but in that case, be sure to redirect all of the old links to the disambiguation page to the respective articles when you do, because every article that should link to The Westerner (film) links to The WesternerFistful of Questions 02:07, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: Ornithology

Can you believe there was no Category:Fauna of Western Australia until I created it today? That's just terrible. Populating it is a big job; had to start somewhere; decided to start with the birds. Doing some offline preparation for rolling out some Dryandra stubs in between incessantly hitting the SAVE button in AWB.

Congrats on the edit count. A fair whack of your Talk: space edits would be tagging for WP:WA and WP:AMH. And the rest is useful discussion. I don't know that I've seen any pollution.

And a Happy New Year to you too. I salute all us losers (for other readers - stalwarts, - dads taxi transporting my teenagers to places on the Darling Scarp needs comic relief in wikipedia SatuSuro 11:25, 31 December 2006 (UTC)) who think a good New Years Eve is an evening on Wikipedia.

Hesperian 11:22, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Happy New Year to you too, and so another sole joins the masses to marvel at the advances the year has provided to the collation of all knowledge, while briskly moving to and fro finishing off many of those little edits that had to endure the waiting of one day or was that day one. Gnangarra 11:55, 31 December 2006 (UTC)