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Thank you for bringing that to my attention Jansprat, I will be closely watching both the article and the talk page for further vandalism & defamatory comments. There is most definitely an agenda of incredibly biased editing on behalf of a few editors. I have had to revert edits repeatedly where massive chunks of info in the anti-white racism section have been removed with no explanation given. I am unsure as to where this strange idea that Indian and Asian South Africans are considered black has originated. It seems we will have to just watch the page and keep reverting any further unconstructive edits by these individuals. Thank you again. Classical liberal za (talk) 08:41, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry

Hi Jansprat, I strongly suspect that the DumaTorpedo, Herbst du Preez and Vusumuzi Mpofu accounts are all operated by the same individual. Note how the latest reply to the survey, a 'No' by Herbst du Preez, contains the same mispelling of 'Ethnic' as 'Ethic' that DumaTorpedo has made in his survey response and in a few other places. What are your thoughts? Classical liberal za (talk) 14:41, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Classical, I agree. Looks like the WitbooiBrada was also created a couple of days ago. In fact at one point Herbst du Preez changed my comments about DumaTorpedo and so its very likely all 3 or all 4 including WitbooiBrada are the same individual. Jansprat123 (talk) 15:03, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Completely agree. Do you think its worth opening an WP:SPI? Classical liberal za (talk) 16:19, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Yes. I think that's a great idea. Given that these individuals are involved in Disruptive Editing and have been warned by the admin several times should convince Wikipedia to take up the investigation. Jansprat123 (talk) 19:00, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

I have opened an WP:SPI against all four users (DumaTorpedo, Herbst du preez, Vusumuzi Mpofu and WitbooiBrada) here. If you could add a comment to the investigation it would be very helpful. Thanks Jansprat. Classical liberal za (talk) 14:32, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Just saw your comment, thanks very much Jan! Classical liberal za (talk) 16:10, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

I have invalidated the close of the RFC and the RFC itself. [1] Please leave the closing of such RFCs to admins. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 19:26, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Absolutely. Just want to note that all those who were in favor for creating the category "black" were sock puppets. So it was only one individual acting as 4 who wanted this category. Every other editor who is valid agree that creating this category would only add a lot of confusion and complexity. If we can't call this a consensus, then we may end up with disruptive editing of the categories again. It turns out we have been spending all this time trying to convince 1 individual acting as 4. Thank you. Jansprat123 (talk) 19:33, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

👋 Hello: Racism in South Africa

Hi, I have read over the discussions about black communities in South Africa and it appears that no consensus was reached due to high levels sockpuppetry. I have thus opened a new one. Furthermore why accuse me of being a sock puppet of a user who merely shared a similar view-point to me? Many people share similar viewpoints around the world I.e Capitalists share the same viewpoint of a free- Market and Americans believe in America and evidently user DumaTorpedo and myself share/shared the same viewpoint about the clarification of the connotations of black. I do hope civility can be maintained though, it appears that previous conversation on the matter got out of hand from both sides :) Thanks ( Any matters relating to the discussion aforementioned should be done so in the discussion section) VivaRSA (talk) 09:30, 7 July 2018 (UTC)