Jane.freeser

Re: Request for Block

Hello, as I am not an administrator, I cannot block/ban users from editing on Wikipedia. If you wish for help, I suggest you ask on WP:AN/I. Secondly, user accounts cannot be deleted. Have a great day. ^demon^{[omg plz]} 19:35, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

User:Careless Ev

Thank you for making a report about Careless Ev (talk · contribs · block log) on Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. Reporting and removing vandalism is vital to the functioning of Wikipedia and all users are encouraged to revert, warn, and report vandalism. However, administrators are generally only able to block users if they have received a recent final warning (one that mentions that the user may be blocked) and they have recently vandalized after that warning was given. The reported user has not yet been blocked because it appears this has not occurred yet. If this user continues to vandalize even after their final warning, please report them to the AIV noticeboard again. Thank you! TigerShark 22:43, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Citing an image

You asked "'I can add a start and summit photo taken by his timing officials on Rainier, how do I add a photo?" at Talk:Mount Rainier National Park#Speed Ascent Records.

If the image is on the web since the photo is being used as the source of a fact I would suggest just linking to it. The simplest way is to just put the address of the page with the photo in the article with a short description like this:

<ref>[[http://www.somewebsite.com/bla/bla/bla.jpg Someone at the top of Mt Rainier with a clock.]]</ref>

The <ref> </ref> around this will put it in the list of references at the end of the article.

A better solution it to use a template because that allows you to provide more detailed information in a structured way . {{cite web}} may be appropriate in this case, see Wikipedia:Citation templates.

If the image is published elsewhere such as a newspaper or a book put a description inside <ref> </ref> with as much detail about the author, publisher, date, etc as you can. Again a template such as {{cite book}} or {{cite news}} would be better.

You should also read Wikipedia:Citing sources.

-- Patleahy 20:04, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Edit by 67.150.221.145

Did you accidently edit while not logged in? See User_talk:67.150.221.145. -- Patleahy 20:28, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Mount Rainier Ascent records

Could your please provide sources for the records in Mount Rainier#Ascent records if you have them. See reliable sources for what constitutes an appropriate source. I personally have no opinion as to what the records are; I would just like to make sure they verifiable so there can be no dispute.

Also, could you please explain what you mean by official records in the section? Who decides that a record is official?

Thanks, Patleahy 06:12, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

There are some press who interviewed the timers. I might have to provide their contact information for sources. I thing www.getoutdoors.com did an article though, possibly others, will check. Official means, timed by timing officials, D.Howitt hired the above listed people to time him, one at the start at Paradise, and one at the summit (Carl Poland). I have pictures they took and will shortly post them. It's not an organized sport, only a handful of people do this in the world and on a variety of peaks all over. Nearly all "records" are claims -- unverified, only timed by the climber, and actually usually merely estimated by the climber, i.e., "8hrs" "10.5hrs", etc. In US history, Whittaker (Everest legend) and Howitt are the only parties who have official times on Rainier, Howitt also does on Hood, Shasta, Adams, people like Oregon Peak Adventures [[1]], Adams Mountaineering Inc/Oregon Army National Guard, Shasta Mountain Guides, etc. A rare official record setter, first to do this in history on all peaks, first in history on Hood, Shasta's north face, first in history on Adams.

Please don't provide contact information for people as this is personal information and should not be in the encyclopedia. Please only provide information on published sources. See Wikipedia:Reliable sources and Wikipedia:Verifiability. -- Patleahy 15:02, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Regarding the above mentioned "Carless Ev" poster who, as seen in his/her history, attempted to post malicous material -- I thought I saw a link to this person's wikipedia profile, a 20yr old guy in San Diego. I can't find it now. I'm trying to determine who did that post. Also wanted to forewarn that this person "Careless Ev" has abused the Internet for years against D.Howitt posting intentional lies and stalking him on the Internet, obsessively searching his name and trying to post malice, most of which was deleted by website owners as highly abusive and unfounded. This person and others scramble to protect their friend C.Kellogg who claimes many times for Rainier and Denali but all have been soundly prooved dishonest by major organizations such as Team Kilimanjaro (leading world speed climbing experts and record keepers www.teamkilimanjaro.com) and USA Mountain Speed Climbing (I have only an address and phone number for then currently).

See discussion about the user of the word "official" here: Talk:Mount Rainier#Ascent records. -- Patleahy 14:44, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Please avoid talking about other people unless they are directly relevant to the facts in question and you can provide reliable published sources for the information. Others may misinterpret these as personal attacks. -- Patleahy 20:00, 23 March 2007 (UTC)