User talk:JTdisabilityartsonline/sueaustin

Initial thoughts edit

Just a few thoughts on the draft article:

  1. Notability: Any article has to pass the test laid down at WP:GNG, which generally means "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list." The BBC report definitely fits that, as does the coverage in the Norman Lomax article. We don't consider passing mentions of a subject as significant, but both of those are far more than that. I'd ideally like to see at least one more source from a mainstream newspaper, magazine or TV programme, as all the other sources are a little bit specialised - the best general sources to establish notability are independent of the subject and "have a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy". Considering Sue's uniqueness, I'd expect there to be more press sources somewhere, if you can find them.
  2. References: I've tidied the references for you - it's always best to keep the citations simple as a lot of long refs make the wiki-test hard to read when editing. It's also easier to use WP:NAMEDREFS when the same source is used more than once. Have a look at what I did and the help page I linked.
  3. Links: Try to make internal links to significant topics that may be of interest and may expand the reader's understanding of the article - I immediately thought that London 2012 Cultural Olympiad and University College of Swansea as well as University of Plymouth would benefit from being linked. There are probably others.
  4. Structure: If you intend to expand the article, you would benefit from looking at other BLPs (biographies of living people) to see how the sections are laid out. There are several ways - either deal with the personal life first, then the career, or vice-versa. "Early life" is a common subsection - do we have sources for Sue's date of birth, place of birth, parents, etc.? You could also spend expand the information about Sue's performance at the 2012 Olympiad, and perhaps add more about how she came to take an interest in diving.
  5. Infobox: Most biographies have an infobox at the top, but they only make sense when you have several facts to place in them, as they then serve as an at-a-glance overview of the subject. Have a look at Template:Infobox person and at some of the BLPs at WP:FA for examples.

I've placed these comments here as this will eventualy become the talk page for the article and these notes are much more relevant with the article than on my talk page. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 20:10, 18 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

Interference from Cassianto edit

Hello Sue, RexxS, this is a nice little start with some added interference from me I'm afraid. Here are some points:

  1. Anymore early information you can add to "early life"?
  2. Could you use your full name in the opening of the lead?
  3. I moved "disabled" out of the opening line, moving it to the second. I doubt there is such a thing as a "disabled artist", more "an artist who is disabled".
  4. Consider, when more information arises, and if it benefits the article, an Infobox (I'm sure RexxS will explain the benefits to you 😉)
  5. Consider an image at the lead

I hope these help and I will ponder some more. I will, of course, watchlist this for progress. CassiantoTalk 21:12, 18 January 2016 (UTC)Reply