User talk:Jähmefyysikko/finn

Refs

Stashing some refs here (continuously updated)

• The elusive Finn: ethnic identities, source criticism and the early history of Northern Sweden in seventeenth-century Swedish historiography
• Tver Karelia History
• Nick Baron. Soviet Karelia : Politics, Planning and Terror in Stalin’s Russia, 1920–1939. Routledge; 2007. Accessed April 18, 2024. https://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=nlebk&AN=494943&site=ehost-live
• Mordovia portal https://tourismportal.net/en/welcome
• Volga-Kama and Russian Empire building: https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.7591/j.ctv5rf3q5
• SOFIN : http://elibrary.unatlib.ru/handle/123456789/10584
• Udmurt history: http://elibrary.unatlib.ru/handle/123456789/7671 http://elibrary.unatlib.ru/handle/123456789/43579 http://elibrary.unatlib.ru/handle/123456789/1419 http://elibrary.unatlib.ru/handle/123456789/63266
• Ingrian Finns: https://journal.fi/idantutkimus/article/view/128923/79912 (see also other articles in the same journal)
• Komi history (if it can be found somewhere): https://journal.fi/idantutkimus/article/view/79774
• Tambets, K., Yunusbayev, B., Hudjashov, G. et al. Genes reveal traces of common recent demographic history for most of the Uralic-speaking populations. Genome Biol 19, 139 (2018). https://doi.org/10.1186/s13059-018-1522-1
• links to Germanic-speaking world etc
• [Permiläiset kielet]
• https://www.scribd.com/document/554771963/Parhuzamos-tortenetek (comment on Zsirai 1937)
• Hirnsperger, Markus (2017). Ein Jahrhundert „patriotischer“ Wissenschaft in Finnland [A Century of "Patriotic" Research in Finland: Finno-Ugric Ethnological Research under the Influence of National Ideas from A. J. Sjögren to K. Donner] (Thesis) (in German). doi:10.25365/THESIS.48493.
• "Ein Jahrhundert „patriotischer" Wissenschaft in Finnland". utheses.univie.ac.at. Retrieved 2024-02-11.
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• https://books.google.de/books?hl=de&lr=&id=RpXfCwAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PA125&dq=ugrians+definition&ots=Jk0qJOMxAl&sig=NjTjQOY2ZhJb7FNTBC07D6mM5zs&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=ugrians%20definition&f=false
• https://publish.iupress.indiana.edu/projects/portraits-of-linguists-vol-1
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• https://bibsok.no/?mode=vt&st=p&pubsok_txt_0=finskugriske%20folkegrupper&pubsok_kval_0=/KE&tpid=3943953&frapost=1&antall=60
• ”Norjalainen vaara” Teemu Ryymin
• Guileless indigenes and hidden passion: Descriptions of Ob-Ugrians and Samoyeds through the Centuries
• https://www.thearcticinstitute.org/language-identity-statehood-brief-insight-history-minoritization-komi-people/
• PusztayJ. (2018). The Future of the Finno-Ugric Languages of Russia. Przegląd Rusycystyczny, (2). Pobrano z https://www.journals.us.edu.pl/index.php/PR/article/view/6304
• https://www.languagesoftheworld.info/russia-ukraine-and-the-caucasus/finnic-traits-in-russian.html
• http://udmurt.info/library/napolskikh/
• See the references: https://erepo.uef.fi/bitstream/handle/123456789/10953/urn_nbn_fi_uef-20120723.pdf (roots)
• ФИННО-УГОРСКИЕ ПЛЕМЕНА В СОСТАВЕ ДРЕВНЕЙ РУСИ
• Myths of Finno-Ugric Peoples. Moscow, 2005. 463 p. (Russian: Мифы финно-угров. - М. : Астрель: АСТ: Транзиткнига, 2005. - 463 с.). (and others at Vladimir Petrukhin)
• https://journal.fi/fuf/article/view/110050/64685
• https://doi.org/10.1111/jeb.12107
• Nordic Experiences in Pan-nationalisms: A Reappraisal and Comparison, 1840–1940
• https://urn.kb.se/resolve?urn=urn%3Anbn%3Ase%3Auu%3Adiva-108857 (Sami prehistories)
• https://www.persee.fr/doc/rbph_0035-0818_2012_num_90_3_8272
• https://www.jstor.org/stable/3774059
• " The rising interest in Finnish and its related languages was

made to serve the distancing of Finland from Sweden" https://www.sgr.fi/sust/sust258/sust258_salminen.pdf , s.226 see also https://www.jstor.org/stable/43265209

• https://cyberleninka.ru/article/n/proishozhdenie-finno-ugorskih-uralskih-narodov
• https://archive.org/details/historyofrussia01kliu/page/215/mode/1up?q=Finnish

• Salminen, Tapani (2023). "On the Demography, Endangerment, and Revitalization of the Uralic Languages". In Abondolo, Daniel Mario; Valijärvi, Riitta-Liisa (eds.). The Uralic languages. Routledge Language Family (2nd ed.). London New York: Routledge. doi:10.4324/9781315625096-2. ISBN 978-1-138-65084-8.
• Laakso, Johanna (2022). "The making of the Uralic nation-state languages". In Bakró-Nagy, Marianne; Laakso, Johanna; Skribnik, Elena K. (eds.). The Oxford guide to the Uralic languages. Oxford: Oxford University Press. doi:10.1093/OSO/9780198767664.003.0003. ISBN 978-0-19-876766-4.
• Pasanen, Annika; Laakso, Johanna; Sarhimaa, Anneli (2022). "The Uralic minorities: Endangerment and revitalization". In Bakró-Nagy, Marianne; Laakso, Johanna; Skribnik, Elena K. (eds.). The Oxford guide to the Uralic languages. Oxford: Oxford University Press. doi:10.1093/OSO/9780198767664.003.0004. ISBN 978-0-19-876766-4.
• Zamyatin, Konstantin (2022). "Language policy in Russia: The Uralic languages". In Bakró-Nagy, Marianne; Laakso, Johanna; Skribnik, Elena K. (eds.). The Oxford guide to the Uralic languages. Oxford: Oxford University Press. doi:10.1093/OSO/9780198767664.003.0005. ISBN 978-0-19-876766-4.
• Laakso, Johanna, ed. (1991). Uralilaiset kansat: tietoa suomen sukukielistä ja niiden puhujista [Uralic peoples: information about the Finno-Ugric languages and their speakers]. Porvoo: WSOY. ISBN 978-951-0-16485-3.
• Lallukka, Seppo 1990: The East Finnic minorities in the Soviet Union. An Appraisal of the Erosive Trends. Annales Academiae Scientiarum Fennicae B 252.
• Saarinen, Sirkka 2008: Venäjän suomalais-ugrilaiset kansat Neuvostoliiton hajoamisen jälkeen [Finno-Ugric peoples in Russia after the Dissolution of the Soviet Union] AURAICA. Scripta a Societate Porthan edita, (1), 101–106.
• Saarinen, Sirkka (2010-08-21). "The Myth of a Finno-Ugrian Community in Practice". Nationalities Papers. 29 (1): 41–52. doi:10.1080/00905990120036376. ISSN 0090-5992.
• Taagepera, Rein (2001-03-01). "Eastern Finno-Ugrian Cooperation and Foreign Relations". Nationalities Papers. 29 (1): 181–199. doi:10.1080/00905990120036457. ISSN 0090-5992.
• Sommer, Łukasz (2014). "Historical Linguistics Applied: Finno-Ugric Narratives in Finland and Estonia". The Hungarian Historical Review. 3 (2): 391–417. ISSN 2063-8647.
• Grünthal, Riho (2005-06-07). "Selvitys Suomen sukukansaohjelmasta" [A report on Finland's program on kindred peoples]. julkaisut.valtioneuvosto.fi (in Finnish). Retrieved 2023-12-24.
• "Suomensukuiset hupenevat" [Finno-Ugric peoples are vanishing]. Ulkopolitiikka (in Finnish). 2015-12-15. Retrieved 2023-12-24.
• Resolution 1171 (1998) Endangered uralic minority cultures
• "Ethnic and Linguistic Context of Identity: Finno-Ugric Minorities". Uralica Helsingiensia (in Finnish). 5. 2011.
• Taagepera, Rein (2001). "Eastern Finno-Ugrian Cooperation and Foreign Relations". Nationalities Papers. 29 (1): 181–199. doi:10.1080/00905990120036457. ISSN 0090-5992.
• Random links: https://www.macastren.fi/linkkeja/index.html
• https://portaal.eki.ee//hoimurahvasteprogramm.html
• Salomaa, Ilona (2013), Muir, Simo; Worthen, Hana (eds.), ""I Devote Myself to the Fatherland": Finnish Folklore, Patriotic Nationalism, and Racial Ideology", Finland's Holocaust, London: Palgrave Macmillan UK, pp. 69–94, doi:10.1057/9781137302656_4, ISBN 978-1-349-45390-0, retrieved 2024-01-03
• "Hõimurahvad | Kultuuriministeerium". www.kul.ee. Retrieved 2024-01-03.
• https://www.files.ethz.ch/isn/91701/21351204_sa367.pdf
• Arukask, Madis (January 2018). "Soomeugrilusest Eesti rahvuspildis – Kas jagatud emotsioon või hägune küsitavus?". Keel ja Kirjandus. Retrieved 2024-01-04.
• Recommendation 1775 (2006) Situation of Finno-Ugric and Samoyed peoples, Parliamentary Assembly and a Reply from the Committee of Ministers (2007)
• Korkut, Umut (2009-04-21), Eager, Pragmatic or Reluctant: Can Common Finno-Ugric Ethnic and Linguistic Links Substantiate Intra-EU CFSP Co-Operation? (SSRN Scholarly Paper), Rochester, NY, doi:10.2139/ssrn.1392787, retrieved 2024-01-04{{citation}}: CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link)
• Halmesvirta, Anssi (2021). "Hungary and Finland in interwar years: A Comparative Survey". In Barta, Róbert; Kerepeszki, Róbert; Kania, Krzysztof; Novák, Ádám (eds.). Trianon 1920–2020. Some Aspects of the Hungarian Peace Treaty of 1920. University of Debrecen. pp. 31–44. ISBN 978-963-490-279-9.
• Halmesvirta, Anssi; Nyyssönen, Heino, eds. (2006). Bridge building and political cultures: Hungary and Finland 1956-1989. Hungarologische Beiträge. Jyväskylä: University of Jyväskylä. ISBN 978-951-39-2422-5.
• "Why are so many Hungarians concerned with finding relatives in the East? – Interview with historian Balázs Ablonczy". Hungary Today. 2022-05-31. Retrieved 2024-01-04.
• Ablonczy, Balázs (2022). Go east! a history of Hungarian Turanism. Studies in Hungarian history. Translated by Lambert, Sean. Bloomington, Indiana: Indiana University Press. ISBN 978-0-253-05740-2.
• Zvelebil, M (2001). "Revisiting Indreko's culture historical model: "Origin and area of settlement of the Finno-Ugrian peoples"". Trames. Journal of the Humanities and Social Sciences. 5 (1): 26. doi:10.3176/tr.2001.1.03. ISSN 1406-0922.
• Physical anthropology of the Finno-Ugric peoples. Физическая антропология финно-угорских народов. Physical anthropology of Finno-Ugric peoples. Author(s): Karin Mark. Designer: Kersti Siitan
• Kowalev, Viktor (September 2000). "Power and Ethnicity in the Finno-Ugric Republics of the Russian Federation: The Examples of Komi, Mordovia, and Udmurtia". International Journal of Political Economy. 30 (3): 81–100. doi:10.1080/08911916.2000.11644017. ISSN 0891-1916.
• Economist. Dying fish swims
• <ref>"Revisiting Indreko's Culture Historical Model: 'Origin and Area of Settlement of the Finno-Ugrian peoples". doi:10.3176/tr.2001.1.03. Retrieved 2024-01-08.
• Tambets, Kristiina; Yunusbayev, Bayazit; Hudjashov, Georgi; Ilumäe, Anne-Mai; Rootsi, Siiri; Honkola, Terhi; Vesakoski, Outi; Atkinson, Quentin; Skoglund, Pontus; Kushniarevich, Alena; Litvinov, Sergey; Reidla, Maere; Metspalu, Ene; Saag, Lehti; Rantanen, Timo (December 2018). "Genes reveal traces of common recent demographic history for most of the Uralic-speaking populations". Genome Biology. 19 (1). doi:10.1186/s13059-018-1522-1. ISSN 1474-760X. PMC 6151024. PMID 30241495.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: PMC format (link) CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI (link)
• https://fennougria.ee/en/tonu-seilenthal-on-cooperation-with-the-finno-ugric-peoples-of-russia/
• https://www.refworld.org/topic/50ffbce5307/50ffbce5475.html
• "FINLEX ® - Valtiosopimukset: 63/1992". www.finlex.fi (in Finnish). Retrieved 2024-01-07.
• https://www.vikerkaar.ee/archives/12246
• Roht, Eva-Liisa (2010). Soomeugrilased ja samojeedid eesti meedias. Soome-ugri identiteedi kuvand ja põlisrahvaste õigused. Tupits, Ave; Labi, Kanni (Toim.). Vahetatud laps. (103−118). Tartu: Eesti Kirjandusmuuseum. (Pro Folkloristica; XV).
• Russian refs: http://www.suri.ee/hist2/plen/sanukov.html
• https://blogs.helsinki.fi/slavica-helsingiensia/slavica-helsingiensia-27/
• https://keeljakirjandus.ee/ee/archives/25231
• The fall of an empire, the birth of a nation : national identities in Russia. Aldershot, England ; Burlington, Vt. : Ashgate. 2000. ISBN 978-1-85521-902-1.
• Hajdú, Péter (1975). Finno-Ugrian languages and peoples. London : Deutsch. ISBN 978-0-233-96552-9.
• List at User talk:Visioncurve/Archive 3#Disruptive editing
• Patrušev, Valerij Stepanovič (2000). The early history of the Finno-Ugric peoples of European Russia. Studia archaeologica Fenno-Ugrica. Oulu: Societas Historiae Fenno-Ugricae. ISBN 978-951-97040-3-6.
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• Petrukhin, Vladimir. Myths of Finno-Ugric Peoples. Moscow, 2005. 463 p. (Russian: Петрухин В. Я. Мифы финно-угров. М., 2005. 463 с.)
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Comparison with other peoples in Russia

Ethnic groups in Russia: (language family - ethnic group)

• Slavic - Slavs
• Turkic - Turkic peoples
• Germanic - N/A (Germanic peoples refers to ancient peoples)
• Northeast Caucasian - N/A (see ethnic groups in the Caucasus)
• Indo-European - N/A (the largest family)
• Iranian - Iranian peoples
• Mongolic - Mongolic peoples
• Semitic - N/A (see Semitic people)
• Koreanic - Koreans
• Hellenic - Greeks
• Romance - N/A (e.g. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Romance-speaking Europe (3rd nomination))
• Tungusic - Tungusic peoples
• Sino-Tibetan - N/A (2nd largest, see Sinitic peoples, Tibetan people)
• Chukotko–Kamchatkan - N/A (Moribund except for Chukchi people, more naturally discussed at Indigenous peoples of Siberia)
• Nivkh - Nivkh people
• Japonic - dominated by Japanese people

Jähmefyysikko (talk) 08:30, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Problems

• Proto-Uralic religion (narrow)
  • Holmberg, Uno (1927), Finno-Ugric and Siberian, vol. 4, Boston, Marshall Jones Company
  • https://archive.org/details/uralicmythologyf0000unse/page/n9/mode/1up
  • https://archive.org/details/religionmythfolk0000unse/page/342/mode/2up
  • https://books.google.de/books?redir_esc=y&id=OTTXAAAAMAAJ&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=proto-uralic
  • Frog; Siikala, Anna-Leena; Stepanova, Eila, eds. (2012). Mythic Discourses: Studies in Uralic Traditions. Finnish Literature Society / SKS. ISBN 978-1-05-177590-1.
  • The Kalevalaic tradition as Finnish mythology
• Uralic peoples (broken rd)
• Orphaned disambigation page: Finnic peoples (disambiguation)
• Finnic tribes of northwestern Russia

Jähmefyysikko (talk) 14:58, 7 January 2024 (UTC)