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January 2018

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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January 2018

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Please respond here explaining why you are changing South Korea national football team repeatedly. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 14:36, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

June 2018

Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did on Yun Suk-young. This violates Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Mattythewhite (talk) 01:20, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

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August 2018

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by adding your personal analysis or synthesis into articles, as you did at Son Heung-min, you may be blocked from editing. Govvy (talk) 12:01, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Kim Jun-hyoung

Hello, Issue0501. I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you started, Kim Jun-hyoung, for deletion because it's a biography of a living person that lacks references. If you don't want Kim Jun-hyoung to be deleted, please add a reference to the article.

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Why did you blank Kim Jun-hyoung? I’ve restored it for now. Thanks, Vermont (talk) 03:44, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Infobox dates

Hello, I'm Mattythewhite. Welcome to Wikipedia! I just wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions were not quite right. When updating statistics within the infobox of a footballer, please make sure you update the timestamp at the same time, so that both readers and fellow editors know when the information was last updated.

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Infobox timestamps

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Football statistics standard

Wikipedia is having standards about footballer article. Watch here and stop editing the career statistics arbitrarily. If you think there has any problems, you can talk here. - Pinineeon (talk) 09:13, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

The rules also change when you go into Edit and change them, if there's no other section in that section, and all the players shouldn't have to do that means they didn't break Wikipedia's unique autonomy. Should I? Was this place like that? - issue0501 (talk) 09:36, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Your personal opinion can't change Wikipedia rules. If you think there has any problems, you need a discussion with other editors in the talk page. Don't change statistics arbitrarily. - Pinineeon (talk) 12:24, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

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October 2020

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Lee Chang-keun, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use your sandbox for that. Paul Carpenter (talk) 09:37, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

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K League 1

Check edit summaries and main articles – Pohang Steelers, ko:포스코. --Pinineeon (talk) 02:46, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

I will fix all K League seasons. Those are wrong according to "facts". --Pinineeon (talk) 06:00, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

It was an unofficial name. official link

Ok. It is my error. Thanks for your help. --Pinineeon (talk) 06:20, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

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골키퍼 클린시트 기록 추가 관련

위키피디아에 생성된 골키퍼 문서들 중에서 국제 경기 클린시트 목록이 있는 경우는 한국인 골키퍼들 밖에 없길래 이상하다고 생각했는데 님께서 자체적으로 만드신 표였군요. 이 문제는 먼저 위키프로젝트에 골키퍼에게 무실점 기록을 넣을 수 있도록 표준 변경이 가능한지 건의하시는게 맞다고 봅니다. 일단 기준에 맞지 않는 내용이니 삭제하도록 하겠습니다.--Pinineeon (talk) 08:24, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

제가 자체적으로 만든 게 아니구요, 저도 원래 있었기 때문에 따라서 작성한것입니다. 이운재,김영광,김용대,정성룡 등의 골키퍼 문서에 있길래 따라서 만든 것 뿐입니다. Issue0501 (talk) 09:33, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

한국 선수들 와일드카드 기재 문제

현재 상당 수의 한국 선수 문서에 U23 대표 기록이 와일드카드 기록을 분리시키는 특수한 방식으로 기재되어 있는데 이게 굳이 필요한 건지 여쭤보고 싶습니다. U23 팀에서 연령 초과 선수(우리나라에서만 "와일드카드"라고 명칭함)가 출전하는 사례는 외국의 국가대표 팀들은 물론이고 클럽 팀들에게도 흔히 있으며 특수한 사례가 아닙니다. 또한, 대한축구협회 A매치 기록에도 U23 기록에서 와일드카드로서의 출전을 분리시키지는 않습니다. 분리시킬 이유가 없습니다. -- Pinineeon (talk) 17:09, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

우리나라에 있어서 와일드카드로 연령별대표팀에 뛰는 선수들은 우리나라만의 군문제때문에가 커서 그런지 다른 나라들보다 네임밸류가 높은 선수들이며 수도 많죠.

그렇기 때문인지 대한민국 U23 대표팀 하위문서에 와일드카드 선수들 목록이 따로 기재되어 있기도 합니다. (정확히는 오버에이지 플레이어죠), 그만큼 관심도,특별성이 높은 영역이라는 방증 아닐까요?

저는 이게 왜 필요하다고 느끼냐면 그 시기에 저 선수가 U23의 나이가 아닌데 뛰었다는 것을 볼 수 있기에 필요하다고 봅니다. 손흥민 선수만 해도 순수 U23나이대에 U23대표팀에 뛴 적이 없죠

그러면 궁금해하는 사람들이 분명히 생길테고 그 부분을 클릭해서 알아가는 사람들도 생겨서 좋은 거 아닐까요? 위키백과는 정보를 제공해주는 사이트잖아요

뿐만 아니라 우리나라는 U23나이대가 한참 지나서도 와일드카드로 참여해서 뛴 경기수가 많은 선수들이 많잖아요, 황의조선수만 봐도 13경기나 되는데 이걸 구분시키지 않을수가 있을까요?

그건 순수 U23에서 뛰었다고 하기가 애매하지 않나요? 그렇기에 구분지어져야 된다고 봅니다.

충분히 특수한 사례라고 생각되는게 우리나라의 군문제가 아니였으면 손흥민선수가 올림픽,아시안게임에 참여하는 일이 있었을까요? 장현수,황의조 선수 등 군혜택 받은 선수가 연속으로 연령별대회에 참여하여 연령별대회 경기수가 대폭 늘어난건 또 어떻구요

다시 정리하자면 정확히는 더 자세한 기록을 명시하자는 것이죠, 대한축구협회 홈페이지보다요. 자세하게 기록하는게 나쁠건 없지 않나요?

그리고 대한축구협회와 기록을 같이 할거면 올림픽대표팀이 클럽팀과 경기한것도 경기수에 포함시키는게 통일성에선 맞죠, 그건 (어느 분이 주도한건지는 모르겠지만) a표시해서 이 경기는 인터내셔널매치가 아니였으니 제외했다고 표시하면서 이건 또 대한축구협회 홈페이지와 통일해야 한다는 것은 너무 그때그때 다른 기준 아닐까요?Issue0501 (talk) 20:45, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

다른 나라들보다 네임벨류가 높은 선수가 출전한다는 근거가 없으며 군문제가 이유가 될 수 없습니다. 네이마르, 수아레즈 같은 월드클래스 선수들도 연령 초과 선수로 올림픽에 참가했는데 이 선수들의 네임벨류가 떨어진다고 보기 어려우며 군문제가 있었던 것도 아니죠. 선수 문서에 "와일드카드" 또는 "WC"라고 표기하는 것 또한 문제입니다. Overage, Over-aged player라고 표기하면 모를까 와일드카드는 한국에서만 한정되는 용어입니다. 한국 U23 대표팀에 와일드카드 표를 만든 유저가 접니다. 기존에 와일드카드라고 표시되어 있는 걸 한국인이 아니면 이해하지 못핧 내용이기 때문에 제가 따로 표를 만들고 링크를 걸어놨었죠. 그런데 U23 팀에 연령 초과 선수가 있는 것은 특수한 상황이 아니며 한국 선수들만 이렇게 표기해야할 이유가 없습니다.

또한, 대한축구협회가 공식적인 U23 기록에 클럽팀과의 경기를 포함시키고 있는 부분은 저도 이쪽 방향으로 바꿔서 수정 중에 있으니 이 문제와 연관시키실 필요 없습니다. -- Pinineeon (talk) 04:16, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

님 댓글을 보고 나니 님 의견도 충분히 일리가 있다고 생각합니다만

이전에 와일드카드 표시를 하셨던 분들도 많았던 것으로 보아 이 주제가 님 의견대로만 이루어질지는 잘 모르겠습니다

제가 위에 댓글에도 말씀드렸다만 정보를 제공해주는 사이트인데 정보는 좀 더 자세할수록 좋은 것 아닐까 하는 생각은 변함없습니다

다른 나라들은 일부 스타플레이어만 올림픽 정도 참가이력이 있지만, 한국의 병역 특수성 때문에 유독 한국의 국대급 여러 선수들이 U23 경기수가 많은 것 또한 이 주제에서 빼놓을 수 없는 문제라고 생각합니다

그리고 제가 ( )치면서까지 설명했어요, 어느 분이 주도한건지는 모르겠다구요, 결코 연관시킨게 아니였는데 연관시켰다고 오해하실 필요는 없다고 보네요 Issue0501 (talk) 04:41, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Korean Cup

Why is only Heo Yong-joon listed as the top goalscorer at Korean FA Cup#Top goalscorer, and not Cho Gue-sung who also scored 4 goals? Is the award given to the player with less minutes played? Snowflake91 (talk) 10:34, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Yes, it is official that the player with the least number of matches wins the prize when the goals are equal. This is the source. [1] Issue0501 (talk) 10:49, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

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Wondering why my edit on Japan national football team was considered to be wrong. I sorted the players by 1. caps and 2. seniority (oldest players first). I think all the squads are sorted like this... ~~ SoftReverie (talk) 12:56, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

At first, I thought age was next to the number of games, but it wasn't. I went through the same thing as you when I edited the Korean national team. A person named Snowflake91 told me. After the number of games, in alphabetical order. I'll try to find the source for it again. Issue0501 (talk) 13:22, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Football/National_teams#Players

See the first parenthesis on this page. Following the kit number and the number of matches, they are in alphabetical order. Issue0501 (talk) 13:40, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

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In a recent edit to 2023 K League 1, you inserted the wikitext </br>. This is invalid HTML; line breaks must be written as <br> or <br/>. See MDN's article on the subject for more information. jlwoodwa (talk) 05:37, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

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Deletion discussion about Cheon Seong-hoon

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Deletion discussion about Hwang Jae-won (footballer, born 2002)

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