Ispor
Old Macedonian
editDo not remove "Old Macedonian" from the article Old Church Slavonic. Because Sts Cyril and Methodius were from Thessaloniki in Greek Macedonia, many scholars refer to their language as Old Macedonian. You should refer to the standard English-language textbooks. This nomenclature has no relation to the current polemics over the modern Republic of Macedonia. CRCulver 23:19, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
During 9-10 century "Macedonia" is teritory(theme) part of south-eastern Thrace,in Byzantine empitre,and the Macedonians from this period were greek spoken people(Greeks).
Look for Macedonian dinasty - emperors Basil I the Macedonian,Leo VI the Wise,Basil II etc.If you refer Old Macedonian language with these Macedonians it means that OCS is also greek,and can not be slavic.Wich is ridiculous.
It is not correct to call OCS as Old Macedonian only because Sts Cyril and Methodius were from Thessaloniki.There is no evidences that they were Macedonians.
But if you refer "Old Macedonian" with todays "Macedonian language",pleace tell some medieval sources who can give information for "Macedonian" or "Old Macedonian" language.Not only the opinion of uncnown scholars. And also in this case,this nomenclature have relation to the current polemics over the modern Republic of Macedonia.
Please delete "Old Macedonian" from the article Old Church Slavonic.This site is not a place for theories.
Maps of theme Macedonia http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ikon/whit2.gif http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/imperialism/maps/byzantium1025.jpg Ispor 22:45, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
- The most respected English-language OCS scholars, such as Lunt, Schmalstieg, and Nandris, use the term "Old Macedonian" in their primers. The job of Wikipedia is to reflect what modern scholars have published, and therefore "Old Macedonian" must be mentioned among the nomenclature. Furthermore, every native English speaker with training in Slavonic linguistics will understand that "Old Macedonian" refers to the Macedonian Slavonic language which the Slavs brought with them during their extensive invasion of northern Greece in the 5th-9th centuries A.D., so there is no confusion with the language which was spoken among the peons of Macedonia during classical times (centuries B.C.).
- And no, the term in English does not relate to the polemics over the Republic of Macedonia. English-language scholars were using the terms several decades before 1945, and they never meant it to relate to the territory held by the Republic, but rather to the hinterlands of Thessaloniki in Greece where Cyril and Methodius' mother and their Slavic contacts were from. And Greek Macedonia at this time was bilingual Greek-Slavonic, not purely Greek speaking. See Byzantine emperor Michael III's statement in the Vita that солѹнѣне вьси чисто словѣньскъi бесѣдѹѭтъ ("the Thessalonians all speak perfect Slavonic"). Until the beginning of the 20th century there were still significant Slavonic communities in northern Greece descended from these invaders. CRCulver 23:54, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
I reverted your edits about the use of the creeping barage at the Battle of Adrianople (1913) and also removed the reference to this in the page agbout the battle - see Talk:Barrage (artillery) for the reasons. If you have reliable sources for this information it can be reinstated, but it doesn't seem credible.
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