GL for Greater London

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The UK system does on the surface look like a total botch up as it is all designed around the convenience of the Post Office, not the users, at the expense of how accurately your postal address describes your location.

I think the Royal Mail is far too cash starved and wary of public backlash to change postcodes and addresses. They are probably also wary of further changes to local government boundaries (there have been a lot in the last 100 years) and do not want the expense of changing only for the new system to become obselete. I wonder if Royal Mail is also biding its time to replace postcodes with mailsort. The introduction of postcodes is still fresh in some peoples minds and it would be a PR nightmare to have to come clean and admit they need replacing so soon.

NW11

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Hi Steve

NW11 - I've tried to find some evidence for this but can't find any, but perhaps you will dig something up: I know the tube was built speculatively here and the area grew very rapidly from open fields to dense suburbia. Perhaps the growth was so great that a new postal district was required made up of bits of the surrounding districts (like in the case of Thamesmead - SE28). Not sure where to look to prove this. Mrsteviec 22:48, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Prenzlauer Berg

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You got comments ;).. I guess we're done now. I see you've changed the 1861 below. Don't thank me for that, you can read it in any guide on Berlin architecture.. urban-b 14:09, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Please don't create article which contain nothing but a category (or a interwiki) - an article needs to be at least a stub to be kept, everything else is a speedy deletion candidate. If you want to have a todo list at the category, why not simply edit the category page itself? andy 12:05, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Main sorting office

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On the london postal district page I see the main sorting offices for Greater London are being changed a bit. IG = Ilford. In an ideal world it should really be "IF" but they couldn't use that as it looked too much like "IE". I forget why Sutton is "SM" but it is for a similar reason/conflict with another postcode. The first two letters of the UK postcode indicate the physical location of the main sorting office so "Ilford and BarkinG" isn't correct as the sorting office cannot be in two places. — Mrsteviec 18:06, Nov 26, 2004 (UTC)

Those were (originally) my edits that specified it as being more than one place, in a bid to explain the odd lettering. Though it's definitely Ilford and Gants Hill (not Barking) for IG. SM comes from Sutton and Morden, as I'd indicated. Though, as Mrsteviec indicates, the article does refer to the sorting office, so I'll not bother restoring them. — OwenBlacker 18:29, Nov 26, 2004 (UTC)
Hi Owen, thanks for your comments!! As a resident of Woodford Green 1975 - 1984, I distinctly remember receiving a leaflet from the Post Office notifying us of our "new postcode". The leaflet refered to IG as Ilford & Barking. Anyway, until I find evidence of that, shall we keep IG as just Ilford?? Ilford & Gants Hill sounds a bit corny ... oops I forgot, you live there...greetings from Berlin IsarSteve 15:22, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Goodness, I stand corrected then. I've repeatedly been told it's Ilford and Gants Hill. My apologies. I dunno, I think an explanation of why there's a silent G in Ilford should prolly be on the List of postal codes in the United Kingdom article. Given you had to live in Woodford Green to acquire that knowledge, I think you earn my trust (and sympathy) on that datum… ;o) — OwenBlacker 15:48, Nov 27, 2004 (UTC)

London Trams

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Hi. Your contribution on the history of London trams was great. However I've taken the liberty of moving it to a new article called Trams in London rather than the London Trams article which was really intended to be about the organisation of that name. This also mirrors the structure of the existing articles Buses in London/London Buses. -- Chris j wood 11:17, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Following up on that, re your question about closure dates for the Kingsway Subway I've moved the discussion to Talk:Kingsway tramway subway so that it can serve as a reference for others too. --Vamp:Willow 16:56, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)