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October 2009

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Speedy deletion nomination of Cruise Ship Jobs

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Cruise Ship Jobs

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Notification

Hello. It appears that your recent additions, and those of an IP acccount yesterday, may violate Wikipedia's policy on external links. See WP:EL and WP:Spam. I have placed a notice at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam#Inzen_Career_Services_links.

Wikipedia is not intended to be used for advertising, or to provide links to companies offering goods and services. It appears that your work is indended to broadcast such links. Kablammo (talk) 23:33, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Your account has been blocked from editing Wikipedia because it appears to be mainly intended or used for publicity and/or promotional purposes. Please read the following carefully.

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Am I allowed to make these edits if I change my username?

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See also Wikipedia:Appealing a block for more information. Beeblebrox (talk) 23:48, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

{{unblock-spamun|frank1801|Dear Wikipedians! First of all i'd like to thank you for keeping this encyclopedia clean. Since it's not the most thankfull job and you do it for free, i'll keep this post as short as possible.
I somehow do understand that you cannot include every SME, allthough i doubt that the history of some larger companies is any more fascinating at times. I checked the rules i got slammed with and ask myself what went wrong.

"See also: Wikipedia:Autobiography and Wikipedia:No original research#Citing oneself Editing in an area in which you have professional or academic expertise is not, in itself, a conflict of interest. Using material you yourself have written or published is allowed within reason, but only if it is notable and conforms to the content policies. Excessive self-citation is strongly discouraged. When in doubt, defer to the community's opinion. What is a conflict of interest? Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a forum for advertising or self-promotion, or a vanity press. As such, it should contain only material that complies with its content policies, and Wikipedians must place the interests of the encyclopedia first. Any editor who gives priority to outside interests may be subject to a conflict of interest. There are no firm criteria to determine whether a conflict of interest exists, but there are warning signs. Adding material that appears to promote the interests or visibility of an article's author, its author's family members, employer, associates, or their business or personal interests, places the author in a conflict of interest. When editors write to promote their own interests, their contributions often show a characteristic lack of connection to anything the general reader might want to consult as a reference. If you do write an article on an area in which you are personally involved, be sure to write in a neutral tone and cite reliable, third-party published sources, and beware of unintentional bias. Neutral point of view is one of Wikipedia's five pillars. Examples of these types of material include (selfpromotion):

  1. Links that appear to promote products by pointing to obscure or not particularly relevant commercial sites (commercial links).
  2. Links that appear to promote otherwise obscure individuals by pointing to their personal pages.
  3. Biographical material that does not significantly add to the clarity or quality of the article."

1) I didn't cite myself
2) I believe I stayed extremely neutral in both articles
3) These were not my first wiki articles, not were they supposed to be the last. Check the IP of "pop in wonderland" on the Belgian Wikipedia and you will find the same number on more then 1 article there. I only forgotten the log-in, so made a new one. The belgian one is not Blocked....
4) Since I also like an encyclopedia to be as complete as possible, i didn't put my own intrests first. If that was the plan, i would have made a Wiki page for myself too.
5) From the 3 external links i posted on Cruise Ship Jobs, 1 was my own. The list of cruiseship jobs with their monthly wages. I didn't see adding this link is "show(ing) a characteristic lack of connection to anything the general reader might want to consult as a reference". I do not have any connection with the 2 other websites(1 was a .edu("cite reliable, third-party published sources"))
6) Me nor my company are obscure.
7) I added 2 links to the cruiseship jobs article, none was made to inZen Career Services & HR Solutions, only the external link, wich is a long list(also mentioned in the rule book). Plan was to make a smaller list with wiki links to wiki job descriptions on the Cruise Ship Jobs page.

I do understand that writing my own name in the article can be seen as bibliographical. If this one sentence did not significantly add to the clarity or quality of the article, I appologise. Writing about your own company might also be seen as a sign of vanity, but i never mentioned the fact that we are the fastests growing European recruitment business specialised in cruiseship jobs, only send out the best, lower South African unemployment figures or offer the coolest jobs on earth.
That, to my beliefs, would be an act of publicity. All the best & Keep up the good work!!
With kind regards.
Franklin}}

PS:
Category Recruitment:
http://www.staffing-and-recruiting-essentials.com/
http://www.ashdowngroup.com/
Company stub
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Applied_Minds
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unispain
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visiongain
Visiongain reports are both controversial and insightful,[neutrality disputed] and have received a great deal of press coverage both in printed and new-media forms.[weasel words] Why was i blocked and deleted and does this article gets cool superscripts?
Restaurants
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piz_Gloria

I wonder what the difference is between these companies (articles) and the one i wrote?

PPS: "AIDAdiva is a cruise ship operated by the German cruise line AIDA Cruises. The focus is on providing luxury comforts for those who prefer an active lifestyle." AIDA cruiselines can even repeat the same sentence as the only sentence on several pages of there ships for the last 3 years......... measuring with two sizes Wikipedia?? I can find another 10 examples easely. With kind Regards.

Sorry, just to clarify, are you agreeing not to write about yourself, or subjects you are affiliated with, if you are unblocked? Thanks. PeterSymonds (talk) 12:44, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

I do.
I do have 2 questions for you too, though:
Don't you think that the links i posted on Cruise Ship Jobs are usefull to the article?("Please do not insert external links to your commercial website unless a neutral party would judge that the link truly belongs in the article"). Allthough it's not finished, but i will stay away from it if you say so.
Will the company page be put back online since there are many other smaller, yet important companies on Wikipedia?
Thanx for the info ! Inzencs (talk) 13:22, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

The second argument doesn't fly on Wikipedia. An article stays or goes based on its notability and sources, not based on the existence of similar articles. -Jeremy ^{(v^_^v Tear him for his bad verses!)} 04:15, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanx Xeno!! I thought that would never happen :)
Can I get rid of all the red on my 'talk' page now?
Beside the fact that some articles are easely unmasked as an internal marketing/defence move, I'm still glad Wikipedia is strict about it's content and 'soft' policy. If it ain't quality you should delete it or put it on hold, just as you did with mine (next time put it on hold untill the Google spider caught me, M'kayyeee!!;).

My next goals on wiki.org..... find the bad guys who want to put up a wiki page and then ask for a 'speedy deletion', aka; be an admin :)

Greeting from F*ç£ing cold Belgium ;)

Back to Work :)

PS: Who is the guy that deleted my post? Is he one of the 'Elders' that everybody obeys to? No Disrepect for the Wiki Elders who do this (propably) for free (i think), but I believe some more clarity in the rulebook would do many good. Then at least we have somthing to rebel against, again..........

Inzencs (talk) 15:54, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Article deletions and user blocks are done by Wikipedia administrators. However, admins do not make the many policies and guidelines, those are made by the community at large. We are not "elders to be obeyed" actually our symbol is a mop because we are charged with cleaning up the encyclopedia. And yes, we do this thankless job for free because we believe in this project and what it represents. The unfortunate thing about Wikipedia is that it has grown so large and so many problematic situations have arisen over the years that the "rulebook" is in fact huge, and to make matters worse, it's not all in one place, but spread out over dozens if not hundreds of pages, and only a liar would claim they know and understand every word of it. Luckily, we have the five pillars of Wikipedia, the foundation upon which all the other policies are based. Read that, and you will understand what Wikipedia is and how it is supposed to work. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:41, 15 October 2009 (UTC)