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Tom Warder

Regarding your recent contributions at Talk:Tom Warder -- since the article has been nominated for deletion, any discussion of its retention or deletion should be made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tom Warder. You should note, however, that since you have made no edits outside of the area of Tom Warder and Marie Warder, your opinions at the AfD discussion may not carry as much weight as other more experienced editors. Many people come to Wikipedia to try to promote a single cause rather than to build a fair and unbiased encyclopedia. Such people are discouraged from promoting their causes, because that is not the purpose of Wikipedia. The particular cause you seem to be promoting is awareness of hemochromatosis. While this is a worthy cause, it is still not allowed on Wikipedia. You may include a link to the relevant societies at the hemochromatosis page, but that is the extent of it; any further promotion should be done at those societies' web pages. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:16, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Re: The electrified mandolin. I have found this reference to the wreck off Skeleton Coast mentioned in Notes. This ship, the DUNEDIN STAR, ran aground at the Skeleton Coast of then South West Africa in 1942. When the call for aid came from the helpless men, women and children, marooned on the desert beach, the men of the South African Naval Forces, the Air Forces, the Army and Police and the Administration for Railways and Harbours and even the Royal Navy got together to organize this amazing rescue operation. http://rapidttp.co.za/skeleton/

If Tom Warder was stationed there and playing an electrified mandolin then, at the age of seventeen, that instrument must have been one of the first of its kind.

Imperani (talk) 16:06, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Claiming that a particular group of military officers answered a distress call, and using that claim to verify that Warder was the first to electrify a mandolin, is a very far stretch. The citation does not verify that there had not been an earlier electrified mandolin, or even that Warder had an electric mandolin at that time. Your conclusion that he did based on that fact is called synthesis, a conclusion of facts not present in the sources, and it is a form of original research that is not allowed on Wikipedia. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:15, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

I think that you have confused two issues here. The fact that Tom Warder had electrified his mandolin, was visible in the image I posted, and the year in which he was playing on it in the War Zone (when researching Gibson Mandolins) made it more credible that, if he had converted it before 1939, it must have been one of the very first.

However, that has nothing to do with the rescue on Skeleton Coast. The text was taken from reliable source, Thys UYs was the C.O. of 27 Sqaadron, etc,etc., but as the article has now been deleted, I hardly think that this info is pertinent any more. I actually signed in to help out Murella, as a picture posted on the "Marie Warder" article was not accepted by Creative Commons.

I wish to make it clear that the image of Tom belongs to me, and I had given Murelle permission to use it, and for it to go into Creative Commons. If the problem was that it was too big, I can supply a smaller one, but I don't know how to get into her article to edit it!

Imperani (talk) 01:20, 18 September 2010 (UTC) Imperani (talk) 01:05, 18 September 2010 (UTC)