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August 2007

Please do not add commercial material to Wikipedia, as you did to Field Commander. While objective prose about products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not intended to be a vehicle for advertising or promotion. Thank you. Natalie 04:20, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. However, talk pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments, as you did at Talk:Field Commander, is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Natalie 04:21, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to add promotional material to Wikipedia, as you did to Field Commander, you will be blocked from editing. Natalie 04:25, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Field Commander Wiki

Dear Natalie,

The person BlackBeard2K7 has been a trouble maker on the Official Field Commander Forum.

Now, he is shifted his attention here on Wiki to delete any refrence to the Legitimate players of Field Commander.

Our Field Commander Forum, if you care to check out, is very active and it meant for Field Commander discussions.

(A) We aren't advertising anything and earning any money from publishing our Site on Wikipedia. It is just that Field Commander players who want to join in the healthy discussion on our Forum can do so if they please.

Please check out our Forum http://fc.ueuo.com/Forum/ before you delete any refrence from here.

I am JulyDerek and I am the administrator on that Forum.

Regards,

It doesn't matter whether or not you are making any money from it. It's still spam. Natalie 04:38, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Spam ???

What do you mean Spam??

I have put a Legitimate reference on a Legitimate Page of Field Commander on the Wikipedia Field Commander page. Our Forum is the only place where any Field Commander player can get a chance to discuss the game with other Field Commander players.

If this is Spam than any inclusion of External links on Wikipedia is spam.

Not really. You may wish to read out external links policy, as well as Wikipedia:Spam. Statements like "If you are a Field Commander enthusiast, you can join the Championships by joining the Forum at [1]" are promotional, and not allowed. A mere external link is a lot different than a paragraph extorting users to join your forum. Natalie 04:47, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

I have deleted that refrence

As you suggested, I have deleted that reference.

Please dont let that mischief monger BlackBeard2K7 deface this Field Commander page.

Thank you.

I don't have any special power to stop him. I would suggest you try the first step of dispute resolution, which is talking to the other user. This may help resolve your conflict with them. As far as any problems you are having with this person on another website, I'm afraid there's nothing we can do about that here. Natalie 04:54, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

User BlackBeard2K7

Hi,

This user is ADAMOFEVIL on the official Field Commander Forum and has been harassing the Legitimate players there for the past 3 months. Any amount of reason with him was unsuccessful.

If you cannot stop him, then the only way (I guess) is to undo his deletions.

Thanks.

PS : What do we do bout the rubbish he has written in the Field Commander discussion tab?

Wikipedia generally stays out of issues occuring at other websites, so I can say for certain that we cannot and will not take any action against this user for actions he has made on another site. If you feel he is vandalizing, you can use the escalating warnings against vandalism, found at Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace. (Before you do this, I would suggest that you read Wikipedia: Vandalism first, to be sure the user is actually vandalizing.) If vandalism continues after a final warning, the user can be reported at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. I wouldn't worry about what he wrote on the discussion tab - unless he is blatantly attacking other editors, revealing personal information, making legal or physical threats, or libelling a living person, the discussion page should probably be left alone. You could archive it if you feel it is off topic; instructions can be found at Help:Archiving a talk page.

I'm going offline for the evening, so if you have other questions you will want to ask another administrator. You can also put {{helpme}} on your talk page, with your question underneath it, and someone will show up and answer your question. Natalie 05:11, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Field Commander

Hungrywolf,

First let me say that the personal attacks toward me and false accusations on your discussion page are inappropriate. None of it is relevant to the fact that you keep on re-adding the "World Championship" section and a link to your personal discussion forums into the Field Commander Wiki page. There is no official "World Championship" tournament sponsored or supported by the game manufacturer, Sony Online Entertainment, and therefore it is inappropriate for you to advertise your own personal league let alone the results of it on the Wiki page for Field Commander. The link to your personal, private discussion forums is also inappropriate, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:External_links section "Links Normally To Be Avoided" #10. Failure to resolve the dispute will likely get you blocked from making further edits to the Field Commander Wiki page. You have already ignored the topic in discussion page on the Field Commander Wiki whilst making additional edits, and so this is the last attempt at resolution of this dispute before I bring in a third party.

Blackbeard2k7 18:08, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism on the Field Commander page by ONE individual

Dear EvilSpartan,

This individual who is accusing us of putting wrong content on the FC page has been a perpetual trouble-maker on the Field Commander forum and has been banned repeatedly there.

We who run the League of Field Commander are from every continent.

(1) The argument of not having the Field Commander League on the Field Commander page will also hold good for not having the list of World Champions Marathon page or any other game or sport page. This is one individual who is harnessing us repeatedly since the past 3 months.

(2) The League is an Open Championship and any Field Commander player is welcome to join.

(3) It is the only Tournament held for Field Commander players and there is no other such tournament anywhere in the world.

(4) This individual here BlackBeard2k7 is only here to vandalise this page. If you check his history on Wikipedia, he has just done that and nothing else.

(5) He has made personal attacks and libeous statements against me on the FC discussion page.

The owner of the site has been known in the past for making hacking attempts on computers of users he does not like by using the IP address they used to register on his forums with. In addition, he has publicly harrassed other users on the official Sony forum for Field Commander, frequently accusing other players of cheating, threatening their family, using extreme vulgarity toward them and posting personal information about them in public.

(6) You can yourself check the Field Commander Championship site and see for yourself : Field Commander Site

His first argument of removing the League from the Wiki site was that users would get hacked. (Check the history of his edits). When that didn't work with the editors then he has come up with some new warped explaination.

If you have objections after this please be free to ask me on my Talk page before deleting the entries.

Thank you.

Hungrywolf 04:21, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

RFC being used to Haress

Please note the RfC brought by BlackBeard2K7 is being done solely to haress.....

No, the RFC was brought on due to your inappropriate conduct on the Field Commander page. There is a dispute over the "World Champion" section, which you have still failed to address in the discussion page of the article.Blackbeard2k7 18:54, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

RfCs brought solely to harass or subdue an adversary are not permitted. Repetitive, burdensome, or unwarranted filing of meritless RfCs is an abuse of the dispute resolution process. RfC is not a venue for personal attack.

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You may note that BlackBeard2K7 has been flinging wild accusations, personal attacks & libeling me repeatedly (check his accusations against me on the Discussion pages). He is only here to harass and vandalize the Field Commander site.

Please provide links to proof of your false accusations. One link would be indicative of a single offense. Your claim is that I repeatedly offend. Provide multiple links please. Blackbeard2k7 18:49, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

You may also note that BlackBeard2K7 had put up a WARNING against the Link of the Field Commander Forum that said :

WARNING: You should take care when joining this non-official web site for Field Commander. The owner of the site (July Derek) has been known in the past for making hacking attempts on computers of users he does not like by using the IP address they used to register on his forums with. In addition, he has publicly harrassed other users on the official Sony forum for Field Commander, frequently accusing other players of cheating, threatening their family, using extreme vulgarity toward them and posting personal information about them in public. He has been banned several times by moderators there and most of the offending threads have since been removed. But should be forewarned.

Also note that the user Hungrywolf had performed a similar edit on another article, moments after reverting the above warning from the Field Commander article. Referenced here: [3] Blackbeard2k7 18:54, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

You may now decide if this individual is here to give constructive criticism or here only to harass and vandal.

Hungrywolf 05:49, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Haress is not a word. You should really consider doing a spell check before finalizing your entries. Blackbeard2k7 18:49, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Response to List and False Accusations

1) Marathon and Tennis champions are sponsored sports and televised. Please use another video game as comparison for your fabricated world champion debate. You are comparing apples to oranges. With regard to "harnessing" you for 3 months... my first edit on the Field Commander article was less than a week ago, and my edits to not fall into the category of vandalism.

2) The league is not open for any player. Case and point: You would not allow me or other users you falsely accuse to be "troublemakers" to register or participate in your tournament. Though this fact cannot actually be proved, it doesn't need to be, because it is made irrelevant by the fact that you cannot provide a reliable verifiable source for your world championship in the first place. As previously noted, discussion forums cannot be used as a reliable source of information.

3) That's wonderful for you. And there is still a link to the league on the Field Commander page. Users who are interestd in participating in a league will click the link and join your forum from there. (There is a link to the forum from that "unofficial league" web page, which is actually the welcome page for the league and his forum). Including an additional link directly to the forum with an advertisement of such forum is considered spam.

4) You need to carefully read this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wp:vand. My edits do not fall under the category of vandalism. On the other hand, your removal of comments on a discussion page could possibly be considered vandalism.

5) The statement that you claim to be a "personal attack" and "libelous" was removed from the article, and justly so. However, you removed it from a discussion page, where the policies of Wikipedia prohibit you to do so. If you wish someones comments on a discussion/talk page to be removed, you should request that they be removed (for which you were warned of on your own talk page). I did not refute it or revert the removal of the statement. Yet, you continue to post the statement on every discussion and talk page you can find. On the contrary, if you check your own talk page, there are several personal attacks against me in the form of false accusations and name calling. Everything I have stated so far (with the exception of the comment you quoted above) can be proved.

6) It has already been noted that your league page and forums are not a reliable source of verification

You should be addressing the issues being brought up about you on the actual discussion page for the article. Your talk page is not the appropriate location to be having this dispute, nor is anyone elses.

With regard to the RFC, it is a perfectly legitimate one. You have consistently reverted my edits, as well as administrator edits, and ignored warnings from administrators without appropriately responding to disputes. The RFC was not created as a method of harrassment. It was created due to your own misconduct on the wikipedia. With the exception of the quote that you keep repeating (which only now appears in places where you yourself posted it), everything I have edited has been perfectly legitimate. On the contrary, you are the one who now continues with personal attacks and false accusations. You have falsely accused me of being a "troublemaker", a "vandal", a "mischief monger" and some other user named "adamofevil" on your talk page. Yet my talk page contains no name calling or false accusations. Everything I have stated can be proved.

Also, with regard to your edit here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=M.U.L.E.&diff=prev&oldid=151547422 it looks to me like you made the same personal attack and harrassment to someone else. You then almost immediately reverted that edit, and proceeded to accuse me of personal attacks. Ironic, isn't it?

Blackbeard2k7 13:11, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Response

Adam or BlackBeard2K7 as you call yourself here, you are welcome to come and join our Forum and compete in our Championships. But as you do not play Field Commander, nor own the game, I doubt that you will.

Hungrywolf 13:17, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

My name is not Adam. I have no desire to be a part of your league, nor do I view it as anything official just because you invented it. Your league is your own personal business, and wikipedia is not a method of advertisement for your personal web sites and forums. I do happen to own Field Commander. Blackbeard2k7 13:23, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

For being someone so passionate for Field Commander that you stay up all night reverting my edits, I should have thought you would jump at the thought of playing with the Worlds best Field Commander players..... :-) Hungrywolf 13:28, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

I am not passionate for Field Commander, and it's hardly night time where I am. You sure have a nack for personal attacks though. It's not making your side of the dispute look good. I prefer to play other more stable games. But I have every right to contribute to the Field Commander article and/or dispute it's content, as does anyone else. And even if I did join your league, I would hardly consider myself playing against the worlds best players. Blackbeard2k7 13:47, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Final Warning

You have been asked a number of times to stop re-adding unencyclopedic information into the Field Commander article. A 3RR report was filed against you, which I have dealt with. I have decided on this occasion not to enact a block, but please note that re-adding this information will result in you being blocked immediately without any further warning. Please discuss the article on its talk page - it badly needs cleaning up, and I have made a start by removing a large block of irrelevant text (which was also a copyright violation). ELIMINATORJR 22:28, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Warning

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Field Commander. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content which gains a consensus among editors. Blackbeard2k7 05:15, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

You have no authority to give me any Warnings. The only reason you are here is to Vandalize and deface the Field Commander page. One just needs to check the history of your edits to figure that out. Hungrywolf 05:22, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I have no authority to block you, but I have every right to warn you of something that you did that was inappropriate for Wikipedia. Be careful about your continued personal attacks and false accusations. You are only creating more trouble for yourself. Blackbeard2k7 13:16, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Admin shopping

Please don't do that. Report the guy if you must but doing the rounds of multiple admins is not helping. Note that the editor in question has now been blocked for 3RR on M.U.L.E.. Note also that you're at your 3RR limit

You are in danger of violating the three-revert rule on M.U.L.E.. Please cease further reverts or you may be blocked from editing. - Alison ☺ 14:31, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

You and Blackbeard2K7

Right - I am giving both you and Blackbeard this same message. This revert war is ridiculous, you're both not achieving anything. I suggest you both take this to the third opinion page, and if that doesn't work then open a request for comment. I have both pages watchlisted and if this breaks out again after Blackbeard is unblocked then I will block both of you on the spot and protect the pages. Discuss this, don't war about it, because you're wasting your time, my time and that of other users which could be used to improve the encyclopedia. Thanks, ELIMINATORJR 17:55, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Please read my message at Talk:M.U.L.E.. Please stop it now and keep away from each other. -- FayssalF - ^{Wiki me up®} 21:50, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Edit warring on Field Commander

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I've already commented on the talk page. Press releases aren't always considered reliable sources, especially for contentious or self-serving statements. There is evidence that what you are adding is incorrect. Please use the talk page to discuss. (and try to do it without making accusations of sockpuppetry and vandalism) --Onorem♠Dil 14:14, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

So vandals like BLACKBEARD2k7 / GAME COLLECTOR have more weight with you than official Sony press releases. I am even more amused... Hungrywolf 14:21, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Please see this policy for what vandalism is. Calling other editors vandals because you disagree with their edits is a personal attack. Stop.

I've answered your comments about the press release on the article talk page. --Onorem♠Dil 14:29, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

The press release is obviously wrong. The links provided on the talk page make that perfectly clear. Take it to the talk page if you disagree.
If you don't stop with your unfounded accusations of sockpuppetry and vandalism, a request for comment on users may have to be the next step. --Onorem♠Dil 11:53, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

What is wrong with you? Why are you supporting the vandalism on this page? Why is the Maps section being removed by you? If you check articles of popular games here, Maps, whereever relevant are included. Hungrywolf 11:55, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

The maps section isn't being removed by me. I'm simply removing the obviously incorrect claim about its being the first military turn-based strategy game for the PlayStation Portable, and the inappropriate link which does not have consensus for inclusion. I seriously don't know how to get this into your head...Your disagreeing with an edit someone makes does not make that edit vandalism. Stop calling it vandalism. --Onorem♠Dil 12:01, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Please visit SoE's Forum and the Field Commander Championship Forum at http://fc.ueuo.com/Forum/ Your friend Blackbeard2k7 / Game Collector has been repeatedly kicked from those Forums for trolling. In the end he is banned from both Forums. He is despeately trying to join back the Forum through anonymous proxy servers (everything has been logged including his real IP's). He is supposedly a "Network Expert"....lol...he is only here to destroy the FC page in his fit of mad revenge.....lol...

Why are you NOT reverting the MAP section that is being deleted? You seem to be only bothered with my edits ! If you are a responsible editor then revert the MAP section.Hungrywolf 12:07, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

I've never been a member of the official field commander forum nor your forum. Your forum doesn't even provide a method of registering. What makes you think I'm a network expert? I am only here to help contribute to Wikipedia.Game Collector 12:32, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

What people do off-Wiki is not important as far as Wikipedia is concerned. WP:SSP or WP:RFCU is the place to go if you believe someone has inappropriately used multiple accounts. Unless you're willing to start a thread on one of those pages and provide some actual evidence, you need to stop making the claims on Wikipedia. His edits aren't clearly vandalism. I can see where what he is trying to do could be considered useful, so your claims that he's out to "destroy" the article (by removing a section about maps) is laughable.

I've commented about the map section on the talk page. I'm not replacing it when Game Collector removes it. I'm also not removing it when you replace it. --Onorem♠Dil 12:12, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Why dont you check Game Collector / Blackbeard2k7 for being sockpuppets? If he turns out to be one, then maybe you will change your mind in encouraging and supporting a vandal Hungrywolf 12:16, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm not a checkuser. If you feel you have a case to make, go to one of the links I provided. Even if they are found to be the same person, I still wouldn't consider their edits to be vandalism. They have an opinion that some information is inappropriate for an article. Your disagreeing with that opinion doesn't make their edits vandalism. --Onorem♠Dil 12:21, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

He is distinctly pretending to to be 2 different persons. Isnt that against Wiki policy? Dont such persons get banned from editing Wikipedia? Hungrywolf 12:26, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

(IF it's the same person) Until a couple days ago, he hadn't used the accounts in order to vote stack, or to avoid 3RR. It's not against policy to have multiple accounts, as long as they aren't used to gain an advantage. If he is using multiple accounts, one should be indefinitely blocked, and the other should be blocked for some period of time. Even if he is using multiple accounts, that still wouldn't make the edits vandalism. --Onorem♠Dil 12:31, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Very soon we will see BlackBeard2k7 logging in and deleting some stuff. Hungrywolf 12:17, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

October 5

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. --Onorem♠Dil 11:58, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

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re Get well soon !

Hey,

I just heard about your accident. Hope you recover soon ! Best of Luck ! Hungrywolf 04:13, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

thanks. -- FayssalF - ^{Wiki me up®} 17:32, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

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