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surrounded

cretins on all sides, duck for cover - globally, and all locations below - good time to invest in a filing cabinet at the bottom of an obscure mining shaft not far from bidyaganga - just remember the long life vegemite and the pack of playing cards for patience SatuSuro 05:37, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm already there. Check my contribs. Ignoring XfD. Ignoring bots. Ignoring cretins. Writing crappy stubs that noone will ever read, on infrageneric taxa noone has ever heard of. Hesperian 05:49, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Excellent.I can relate to that completely - I have come cross a marvellous pdf of endangered ecological communities in wa - a long and devastatingly obscure (?) list of places that have descriptions which include terminology of: troglofauna, stygofauna, chenopod, pisolite, copepod, hypactacoid, cryptogam, saprolite, forbland, and inselberg (i think i got the last one) - I suspect they are either (1) fellow bidyaganga residents (2) the names for the people at friday pub drink time and never realised that is what they were called (3) tyops (4) all of the above SatuSuro 06:04, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Ah yes; you've seen Cygnis's Assemblages of plants and invertebrate animals of tumulus (organic mound) springs of the Swan Coastal Plain no doubt. But I think the troglodyte community would be the most fun to write up. Hesperian 06:09, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

One that jumped up at me and which sparked the imagination is the vast number of unique assemblages of invertebrates have been identified in the groundwater calcretes (gawd we are living on one vast mound of the bloody stuff) and the other of interest was the hypersaline ecological communities which smells of an interesting article SatuSuro 06:28, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

overwhelmsed

first impression - very well set out and presented well - of what i have looked at so far - bet they dont have the same themselves :( - will need to look again - but what have checked so far very impressed by the appearance - just a bit nervous about the red links :| SatuSuro 14:44, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

The more I look at what has been done the more I am impressed - that surely deserves a star or barn or flower or something SatuSuro 14:45, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

it's like ...

My source says that George transferred this "with some reservations". cygnis insignis 06:30, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Very droll :-) (Sorry I didn't respond before; I had to go.) Hesperian 11:09, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Please move A. P. de Candolle -> Augustin Pyrame de Candolle. Ta. cygnis insignis 18:03, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Brya moved it to A. P. ages ago, with edit summary "move to neutral territory", presumably per "Pyrame" and "Pyramus". I don't mind reverting Brya, but which should it be? Hesperian 01:35, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Apparently even he could not spell his name. IPNI gives Pyramus for Father and son, so does La Société de Physique et d'Histoire Naturelle de Genève. The son was moved to the other spelling (Pyrame) per Brittanica (EB11?) earlier in the year. The father may have been referred to as "A. P.", but it does nothing to disambiguate him from Junior. I don't where it was discussed, but it wasn't the talk pages of either article. cygnis insignis 04:46, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Done. Hesperian 05:00, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

(Brya wasn't really a discusser; s/he was more in the "be bold" mold. Hesperian 05:01, 5 October 2008 (UTC))

Can't fault that, I was a bit bold too. cygnis insignis 05:19, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Curry Tree

I just noticed your taxo edit on this article. Have you seen my recent comment on the talk page. I think the official Genus name is Bergera, but I am not a taxo expert, I just noticed some inconsistencies between naming here and on Commons, and GRIN seems to indicate that it is Bergera, but I do not know if that can be considered authoritative. -- Slaunger (talk) 09:11, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Input requested

Hi. Over a year ago, you'd blocked G2bambino (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). He is now the subject of a community discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Specific_sanctions_proposals. I'd like to request for your input at that discussion. Thank you, Ncmvocalist (talk) 04:51, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

List of newspapers published in Western Australia

You must be a mind reader. I was thinking about this last night and was going to make a start tonight. Great idea, even if it is mine ;) Moondyne 03:25, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Great minds think alike I guess (it's not as bizarre as this).

Just had a look at your contributions, and we seem to be working in the same space for a happy change. Gosh we might even end up accidentally collaborating!

Hesperian 03:33, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Its a worry. Moondyne 04:07, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Narrow focused gits :) - you have about a 1/3 up so far :) - if you saw the battye list you would see how many you have left out - and if you are including historical - you are about a 1/5 up - reckon you should really qualify what it is in the lead para - otherwise youre outta context - clearly looking too much at the early stuff has got you bother delirious in a way of speaking - cheers SatuSuro 11:54, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

The more I look at it - to save your sanity you should have a cut off/delineation of newspapers founded in wa before 1900 - and I would accept that I could meetup with you guys sometime and see you sane - you try the 1900 + and I think you are really off your trees :) SatuSuro 11:57, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

trying to be more positive - I think the idea of more than one list and qualifications in the lead sentences or paras are essential SatuSuro 12:16, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

All in good time, kind sir, all in good time. Think of it as a lure for good advice. Hesperian 14:38, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Sir? should see the beard :) - Early newspapers which you have eminently plastered the walls with in wikisource with some skill and expertise - are early newspapers - goldfields newspapers are breed among themselves - regional newspapers (vis a vis pilbara et al) are a breed among selves, and the short lived of the twentieth century are another thing again - there are articles as much as lists for all of them :) - not forgetting the specialist and obscure again - possible 5 articles and 5 lists i would say - but hey glad you guys is doing it as the battye list used to give me the ----- due to its size and variations and issues - it makes you realise the west is a mere pin prick on the bum of the trees dropped to keep the provincial minds of yesteryear amused and informed :( SatuSuro 22:46, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Email

Ping! Euryalus (talk) 06:13, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Early Days

I don't suppose any of you gentlemen have a copy of Early Days 12(4) on your bookshelves? Hesperian 00:46, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Have access to it and can probably get it scanned, if noone else has a copy. Orderinchaos 04:08, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, but the list of sources I need to track down has grown to 8, so I guess I should bite the bullet and pop into Battye myself. Hesperian 04:10, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

I was thinking UWA. :) Orderinchaos 04:13, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Same here (ie battye (probably there friday lunchtime - email me your refs if you want) and/or the other refs too?) - ((goon show voice quietly asks self - asking a question on his own talk page? thinks - he knows we are all watching?, hmmm )) take your pick SatuSuro 04:13, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Bugger, I went in there today and got most of what I wanted[1][2], but somehow I forgot the one I wanted most:

• McGlade, Hannah (1998) "The repatriation of Yagan: a story of manufacturing dissent" Law/Text/Culture 4(1):245-255.

You can access it online from within the library but not from outside.[3] If you wouldn't mind, it should only take you a few minutes to whack it on a thumb drive so you can email it to me later. Hesperian 13:57, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

• • Gosh, how could any respectable journal publish such a self-serving tirade? Hesperian 06:33, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

A belated no from me also. Moondyne 14:01, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Probably Friday lunchtime - email me if you want further SatuSuro 14:28, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

"63rd tree"

The other one I didn't get that I had intended to is

• Burke, Shane (2004). "Innovation and adaptability: The European archaeology of the Swan Valley". Early days. 12 (4): 343–358.

I am intrigued by the "63rd tree", whatever that is. The SRO has an 1833 survey map entitled "Survey of Swan River above Ellen's Brook to fix position of 63rd tree by George Smythe". This is said to contain Yagan's gravesite. If you google "63rd tree", you'll find only mention of a talk that Burke gave at UWA back in 2000 entitled "The 63rd tree: the archaeology of the European settlement of the Swan district, 1827-1860", and a citation in Burke's Fences, Furrows, Ditches and Settlement Policy; in the latter case, the map is used to support the rather banal assertion that "In 1839, the four farms were connected by tracks that went south via the small town of Guildford, and north to the newly established Cruser's Mill." so that doesn't help at all. The only other clue that my addled brain has dredged up is the fact that the regiment stationed here was the 63rd Regiment of Foot, so possibly (probably?) the "63rd" bit refers to the regiment rather than an actual tree ordinal. I am hoping that this article may solve the mystery for me. Hesperian 13:57, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

• Dennison, Walter. A short history of 63rd of Foot in Western Australia 1829-1833 / [Walter Dennison ; photography by Paul Godden].

Published [Perth, W.A.? : W. Dennison, 1978?]

• Irwin, Frederick Chidley, 1788-1860. Title Correspondence, 1808-1844 [manuscript] Historical Data First colonial commandant in W.A., arriving in 1829 in command of a detachment of the 63rd Regiment assigned to protect the newly established Swan River settlement. In 1835, published the first account of the colony "The state and position of Western Australia". In 1836, sent back to W.A. with the rank of major to command the local garrison. From Feb. 1847 - Aug. 1848, he was Governor of the Colony.

Contents ACC 910A. Summary Copies of letters sent and received by F.C. Irwin, including one from Sir James Stirling and one from Andrew Clarke, Government House, St.Lucia.

I dunno if either might have a clue or two SatuSuro 14:11, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Google bah - clusty has http://www.tameside.gov.uk/museumsgalleries/mom/history/63rd and the very brief mention of them at Mrs Dance's tree of course in barrack street :) SatuSuro 14:18, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

I sincerely doubt that George Smythe would go looking for Mrs Dance's tree "at Swan River above Ellen Brook". Hesperian 23:22, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah i realise that (heheh) - point is will be in battye at lunch - want anything? SatuSuro 01:04, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Please

check the minorities map in Greece article. Despite not being supported by any numbers an admin is abusing his powers to object any removal. If you like check the talk page to have a more complete opinion. Can you tell me how can we progress from here? A second admin's opinion is needed or there shall be another procedure? Thanks for your time --Ioannes Tzimiskes (talk) 07:27, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

I can't see any evidence that the administrator in question has abused his administrative powers. This seems like notihng more than a content dispute.

The issue is far too complex for me to come to an informed opinion on the accuracy of the map. Based on the following quote from the discussion, I am inclined to impute Fut.Perf. with the purer motives:

The whole talk about numbers is a red herring. As I said before, the map is based on qualitative, not quantitative data. It doesn't "count" people, it makes no claims about numbers, either implicitly or exiplicitly, it isn't based on numbers, it has nothing to do with numbers. It makes the qualitative statement that in a given area, a given language has been an active community language within living memory and there is at least one generation of speakers still living. This is academically sound, it is how the relevant academic literature treats the issue, this is what our reliable sources say. The map follows the data found in the literature as precisely as humanly possible. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:47, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Come on, the only red herring here is the map's purpose. It's not here to educate or present facts about so called minority languages. Its clear purpose is to highlight the alleged non-Greek communities and their presence in the Greek territory. It's only here for the purposes of our friends in the north to say: hey most of the Greek Macedonia is populated by our people anyway, so what's the fuss when we claim the language, history and territory... please spare me with the rhetoric about "qualitative" vs. "quantitative" and "the map is precise as humanly possible", all the Greek editors here (me included) just don't buy it anymore. Walnutjk (talk) 10:45, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

To my mind, that thread reads as Fut.Perf. insisting upon academic accuracy in the face of nationalistic bias. But like I said, I am unable to come to an informed position on this topic.

Your options are laid out in Wikipedia:Dispute resolution.

Hesperian 11:36, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

RfC/U

There is currently an open Request for Comment on User Conduct here, regarding G2bambino. As someone with past interactions with him, you are invited to comment. — [ roux ] [x] 15:18, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

messy

all the bits and pieces above have sent gmail SatuSuro 01:17, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Got em - will get em to ya SatuSuro 10:40, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Good to think that in the end we all have crappy stubs in our collections :) SatuSuro 14:02, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Monday morning - hmm might leave a hard copy of both arts at your work tuesday lunch - my capacity for organising to find the brown paper bag to get out of is at the stage of what does the brown bag look like and which way is up? apoligies for delay nothing about the tree in either btw SatuSuro 00:10, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

No, it is not a crappy stub...

...it is actually a nice stub, your Down on His Luck. I gave it a bit more text and references. I never knew of the painting or its creator, and I was happy to learn of it (I found the entry while doing New Page Patrol). Thanks for bringing it here! Ecoleetage (talk) 13:25, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

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Higher plant taxonomy categories

Hey Hesperian. A relatively new user, Pomeapplepome (talk · contribs), has been monkeying around with the higher plant taxonomy categorization structure. See diff and the user's more recent contributions in Category:Eudicots, etc. Some of these categories have been untouched for a while. Would you mind taking a look to make sure the categories are right? You're much better at the higher plant taxonomy than I am. Cheers, Rkitko ^(talk) 14:48, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Much appreciated! --Rkitko ^(talk) 23:34, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Monday mornings

http://henrietta.liswa.wa.gov.au/search~S1?/dRoyal+Western+Australian+Historical+Society./droyal+western+australian+historical+society/-3%2C-1%2C0%2CB/frameset&FF=droyal+western+australian+historical+society&5%2C%2C13 sir your repast SatuSuro 00:32, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

http://henrietta.liswa.wa.gov.au/search~S1?/dRoyal+Western+Australian+Historical+Society./droyal+western+australian+historical+society/-3%2C-1%2C0%2CB/frameset&FF=droyal+western+australian+historical+society&4%2C%2C13 SatuSuro 00:36, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

http://henrietta.liswa.wa.gov.au/search~S1?/dRoyal+Western+Australian+Historical+Society./droyal+western+australian+historical+society/-3%2C-1%2C0%2CB/frameset&FF=droyal+western+australian+historical+society&6%2C%2C13 have a good day SatuSuro 00:37, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

They are 1980s reprints of old volumes. They have been reprinted under the new title, but they were originally under the old. If you open up Volume 5, the title page will say "Early Days, Volume 5"; then there will aggregate contents page; then the issue facsimiles will start, and the first issue facsimile will have a title page that says "Journal and Proceedings, Volume 5, Part 1". Hesperian 01:09, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Edit counts

		All Around Amazing Barnstar
		There was a time when yours and mine edit counts ran neck and neck. You've just quietly ticked over 90K and I'm wallowing at 40K. A splendiforous effort - well done. Moondyne 09:09, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

[4] Moondyne 09:09, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Even more amazing when you do the mental arithmetic on this http://toolserver.org/~vvv/sulutil.php?rights=1&user=Hesperian SatuSuro 09:16, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Cheers, but it really only goes to show how irrelevant edit count is; these days, a newb with huggle and no brain can accumulate 40k in six months. I suggest that the difference between yours and mine would be more than accounted for by my AWB runs cleaning up higher taxonomy in taxoboxen. (Meanwhile, it has been over 13 months since I featured an article.) Hesperian 11:00, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, get on with it! ;) Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:39, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

19 for me. And congrats on the 90k, I'm yet to reach 40k (unless one adds together my two accounts). Orderinchaos 14:15, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

You have gmail SatuSuro 01:32, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

who cares

as long as there are enough redirects doesnt really matter re the title - i dont like it becoming part of a very short content category with no project tag though :) SatuSuro 00:12, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

orphaned category?

Please see User_talk:Jeff79#orphaned_category.3F.--Jeff79 (talk) 02:10, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Deltasaurus

We use the genus (like in Mastodonsaurus, Velociraptor, etc).--Diucón (talk) 22:22, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, like to cover more information in the article and because that is the way of use the genus.--Diucón (talk) 22:29, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

cntenary

mr gng n self have been dabbling a bit pray have a peek even an edit? :) SatuSuro 00:15, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Looking now. Did you know that Colebatch's Story of a Hundred Years contains not a single mention of convicts? Hesperian 00:22, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

heheh 'd blieve that yesSatuSuro 00:25, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

So we pss d auwdition? SatuSuro 00:36, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Your protection of that talk page

I was trying to dial in a rangeblock. Would you mind if I unprotect? J.delanoy^gabs_adds 05:12, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Go ahead. Hesperian 05:13, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

I think I may have nuked his home IP range. Thanks for your assistance. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 05:37, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Good on ya. And I disappeared the edits. It never happened :-) Hesperian 05:49, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

this post has got nothing to do with the subheading; just that what I have to say isn't worth establishing a new one! Your recent minor corrections to 'External Links' on Western Australia impressed me re: the precision and correctness of your wording. I would have probably jumped in and deleted the previous edit, whereas you saw that the idea possibly had merit and you took the time to edit the text perfectly to ensure that it worked. Good job. GlenDillon 06:57, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Cheers mate. Hesperian 22:39, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

I did this recently, posted this and then this after doing just that. cygnis insignis 12:17, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

apparently, at least acccording to ASGAP. They also give a distrib. to s. Queensland. I suppose I should find a better ref than that. Ta, btw. cygnis insignis 12:08, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry; the fact that you left WA out made me think it was just a brain fade. I judge others by my own weaknesses, and it would be just like me to vague out on the shared "Callid" in Hemerocallidaceae and Caladonia, and end up confusedly sticking the wrong category in. Can you pat your head and rub your tummy at the same time? Hesperian 12:14, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

While I'm pondering your response ... This ref says: A single specimen has also been collected from New Caledonia. LOL, do we categorise it on that basis?! cygnis insignis 12:20, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Not that ref, this ref. I would say not, at least not on ASGAP's word. Hesperian 12:24, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I now appreciate your punny remark, I'd never thought about the name. Where is my skeptics helmet. cygnis insignis 12:31, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Hmm - thats a loaded question? SatuSuro 12:17, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I have no brain either: I think I lost it when I saw there Flora of Florida, but not of Flores. The Oceania cat is looking better and better, although you may be able to simplify Avicennia marina with what we have. cygnis insignis 01:44, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

{{Australia-plant-stub}}

Hi. This stub type's rather heavily populated, and all other things being equal, the stub-sorting project would aim to split these up into more manageably-sized subtyes. I'm not aware of any associated Wikiproject, so for the time being, I'm just letting you know. Proposal is located here. Alai (talk) 02:24, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Weird IRC stuff

Regarding this: No unauthorized revelation of personal information here; someone has just completely lost their marbles. I don't know who Lando-SpacePimp is, but it's certainly not me, so I'm wondering how anyone managed to confuse me with him. --Cyde Weys 15:50, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

I suspected as much... but you can't revert someone for losing their marbles. Hesperian 22:21, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Email ping

Finally got around to replying, sorry for the delay. Euryalus (talk) 11:58, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you again for your kind words. I accept. Euryalus (talk) 03:16, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Heh, its an oddly nerve-wracking process. Still, I've spent most of the morning reviewing a witheringly dull work document so a lift in the heart rate can only be a good thing. Euryalus (talk) 03:40, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

RfA comments

Hear hear! It intensely annoys me when editors use RfA discussions to push their own personal hobby-horses, be it on self-noms, policy disputes, personal preferences on achiving talk pages etc. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 11:25, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh, shit, that should have been "thread" not "threat". Thank heavens you pointed me at that diff! Hesperian 11:32, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Shit happens :) -- Longhair\^talk 11:36, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Further comments

In september i said a variant on this:-

with experts on all sides, time to duck for cover - all locations above and below - good time to invest in a nailclipper and find space at the bottom of an obscure mining shaft not far from warbuton range - just remember the long life vegemite and flour for damper and a copy of the complete shakespeare - more in there than you find here in any one year SatuSuro 01:48, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

And if I recall correctly, I said "I'm already there"; maybe I need to find my way back there. Hesperian 01:51, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

APG

You made a bunch of unconstructive edits to several of the articles I created for plants in the Araceae family. In the taxobox you edited, the classification of the plants was changed. You removed the order and division of the given plants and replaced it with the common name for the classification and listing it as unranked. It does have a rank though, order and division. This is very confusing for someone trying to determine the taxonomy of the plant for the first time. Please reply and we can discuss it further.-User:chhe 06:20, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

I didn't replace them with "the common name for the classification"; I replaced them with the recognised clade names, in accordance with the APG II system. APG II has been very widely, almost universally, adopted by angiosperm systematists, and it is somewhat of an embarrassment to Wikipedia that most of our taxoboxes are still stuck in the pre-APG-II dark ages. I have been gradually working through updating them, and I believe that I have the support of the good people at WP:PLANTS in doing so. I suggest you read APG system and APG II system, then get back to me and we'll talk. Hesperian 06:47, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

P.S. Be so kind as to re-title this section. Hesperian 06:47, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

If your converting everything to APG-II why are you putting in (unranked): Angiosperms instead of clade: Angiosperms?--Chhe 08:58, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Because clades are unranked, and the taxobox doesn't support "Clade:" Hesperian 10:44, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Very strange

I don't want to get involved so don't mention my name.

I saw the person that you nominated to be an administrator. He has a question on his talk page and another administrator removed it. I thought that removal of comments from someone's talk page is vandalism and if you do it, you will be blocked.

Why is it that administrator act this way? Is the person that you nominated going to act the same way? I hope not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiangel1 (talk • contribs) 19:39, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

I've read your comment on my talk page. I can't tell what comments you are referring to at Talk:Barack Obama because you don't appear to have been using this account. It's also a page I've never edited, but it appears you are part of a content dispute which I suggest you resolve via consensus with other editors.

In general, comments on article talk pages should be about changes to the article, not a broader discussion of the article topic. The talk page guidelines make clear that irrelevant comments are subject to removal. I appreciate you disagree with User:Wikidemon's removal of some of your comments, and I note that removal was subsequently discussed on AN/I. As I don't know what your comments were and haven't participated in the Obama content discussion, I have nothing to add to the AN/I thread either way.

Comments on user talk pages should not generally be removed unless they are personal attacks, blatant vandalism or are otherwise disruptive. I wouldn't have removed your comment from my talk page myself, but no harm has been done as I have read it anyway and responded above.

This has absolutely nothing to do with Hesperian, so thank you to him for hosting this discussion. Euryalus (talk) 22:04, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

If you have time and/or interest

Hi Hesperian, as the result of a gentle rollback I performed on the article Galah, Victoria a friendly discussion has ensued here. Whilst it may not ultimately be the best location for such a communication to fully develop, for now, if you have the time and/or interest, can you provide your thoughts also? With thanks. --VS ^talk 09:42, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

I've been trapped in a PC-free zone for a few hours so this is the first chance to say thank you for your nomination and advice re the RfA. As you know I had some serious doubts about whether to go ahead with it, and spent a few hours glued to the "refresh" button to see how it was going. Then, as you predicted I discovered there were more interesting things to do and was able to get on with editing elsewhere. Still, it's amazing how hesitant you become about every minor edit during an RfA, in case you're making some horrendous policy error.

Anyway, thank you again - it was gentler than I expected it to be and if you don't mind I'll be back on a regular basis to waste your time with beginner's questions on every issue. Euryalus (talk) 10:13, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

No worries mate; you deserved no less than what you got... well, maybe two less neutrals. I'm always happy to give you my 2c, but on the other hand I wouldn't have nominated you if I didn't trust your judgement, so feel free to go ahead and trust it yourself. Hesperian 10:46, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Here's one in passing. Is MEG (electropop) a copyright infringement, given the original source is another Wiki[5] which makes its content available under a Creative Commons licence?[6]

On the surface it would seem not to be a copyright problem, but I thought I'd check before declining it. Euryalus (talk) 00:51, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Delete it. The author has given permission for it to be used under CC-BY-SA, but they haven't given permission to it to be relicensed under the GFDL. Hesperian 00:58, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Euryalus (talk) 01:01, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

... also we aren't even meeting the conditions of CC-BY-SA, which requires us to provide a link to the CC-BY-SA license. Hesperian 01:03, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Irony. Hesperian 01:08, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Heh. Maybe MEG will be making a return in the near future (though its CC-BY-SA 2.0, not 3.0, if that makes any difference). If I knew anything about the subject I'd simply rewrite the article myself and avoid the entire issue. Euryalus (talk) 01:15, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Question

Then following on from your comments at vs - would you agree with a separate article for boulder?(separate locality and local authority for over 60 years etc) SatuSuro 12:32, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Absitively posilutely. 12:35, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Hey it had more pubs per square than Kal did Gnangarra 12:38, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

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