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People's Temple edit
Bering in mind I'm summarising stuff that's present further down the page and heavily cited, how is what I wrote 'obvious nonsense'? Hadashi (talk) 10:51, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry for having been so blunt, I genuinely thought it was a vandalism. To rephrase it more civilly: I don't think dancing around the word “religious” is a reasonable summary of the rest of the article at all. I did read it and saw a lot of material on Jones' beliefs and ideology but that does not change anything to the group's dynamics. The mass suicide/murder alone is enough to make it a religious phenomenon. In any case, the People's Temple is described in many sources as a “cult” so the idea that is was not religious is at most a minority view and cannot form the backbone of the article. GL (talk) 11:29, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
- It's 0k, it happens. I'm not sure how the way it ended in a mass suicide\murder puts it down as a religious phenomenon though, some sort of secular cult maybe? I don't think it makes sense to classify them as a religion based on that. The evidence seems pretty explicit that Jones was an atheist who wanted to hijack religion to preach a radical communist ideology and destroy belief in both God and the Bible. Outwardly the People's Temple put on a front to draw people in and took a lot of care to insure that new members didn't know that he wanted to replace their belief in God. In that regard you could maybe call it a 'mystery cult', but I'm thinking that since the whole church thing was basically a front that he used to find people receptive to his ideology and atheism, labelling it a religious organisation without mentioning that it was actually just pretending is kinda misleading. Hadashi (talk) 10:30, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
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