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Oakland, California

Regarding the nickname problem in Oakland, California, Cholga continues to reintroduce the nickname without a reliable source. I reverted Cholga one time and explain to he/she in talk page. But it seems to me that he/she have trouble understanding what is notable or based on a reliable source. Cholga reverted every one of my edit, and would possibly engage in an edit war with me. Now I stop the revert and stop further conflict today. Hopefully I can get a second opinion from you to determine whether Cholga's citation is a good source or have you discuss with Cholga more about source. Sorry to disturb you. Thanks. Chris! _{my talk} 23:28, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

hey long time no talk

would you give your opinion here please? Hi there, would you be so kind as to provide an indepenant neutral opinion of the image Construccionkaiserrick.jpg at the section of the same name on the talk page of Richmond Medical Center here please? Thank you very much as this may help to alleviate a current debate over its inclusion.Cholga^talK! 01:07, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

funny, you do actually, just a little bit, but with a much more underlying friendly undertone which certain people i find it hard to believe may not infrequently achieve. as for it "adding nothing" explain please, i dont understand. ive heard people say it just illustrates a common construction scene but bart station pictures just illustrate a common subway station prototype, its not a picture of just any construction its a picture of the expansion of this hospital.Cholga^talK! 03:28, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: User Talk Pages for IP Address

Hi, yeah you are right sometimes. But as you can see on this user contribs, IPs don't change that often and we must at least take the chance in order to inform them before blocking. Because anyway the block is only effective against one IP so if they change there's not much we can do ;). -- lucasbfr ^talk 00:59, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

oakland

IL2BA now removed Oaktown, O-town, and The Town from the Oakland page, in fact he removed the entire parameter from the infobox, saying nicknames are irrelevant, it thought you might want to know and restore it.Cholga^talK! 00:42, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

s.p. resevoir

oh sorry about that, i was just trying to get it off the ground, if theres no useful mergable material it should be deleted or turned into a redirect.Cholga^talK! 20:22, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Outstanding picture - barnstar awarded

Wow!

For your daring-do to achieve a unique viewpoint I hereby award you the Photographer's barnstar. Leonard G. 00:21, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

The copy of this picture on WP was deleted so I fixed your page to show the extant version on WP Commons for you, hope you dont mind. DukeB-120th 06:49, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Tilden as Amusement Park

By almost any definition of 'amusement park' I've ever heard, Tilden does not qualify. It is an outdoor nature park that happens to have one traditional amusement park ride - a merry go round - in it. That hardly qualifies it as an amusement park. If someone said to you 'hey, lets go to this amusement park I know of' and you said 'great idea, I love amusement parks more than anything else in the world' and you ended up at Tilden, you would be sorely disappointed.--Fizbin (talk) 18:28, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

There is a science museum to have fun in, a train to be ridden, a lake to swim in, a nature center to see.a merry go round to go around in. It fits my idea of a "amusement area in the BAy Area" though I hear what you are saying that it is not Marine World AfricaUSA or Great America. rkmlai (talk) 18:34, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Care to further discuss ? rkmlai (talk) 18:44, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

As I said above, calling it an amusement park is exceedingly deceptive advertising. Great America and the Santa Cruz Boardwalk are amusement parks - Tilden is not. By your definition 90% of the parks in the Bay Area are amusement parks. --Fizbin (talk) 19:07, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

I dont believe that 90% of the parks in the Bay Area all include amusement park rides, museums, nature centers. Which parts of the Bay Area do you reside in or abouts ? They sound like fun areas. rkmlai (talk) 19:30, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Grew up next to and played/hiked/rode often in Tilden. Never once considered it an amusement park. Those, back in the day, were Playland at the Beach and the Santa Cruz Boardwalk.--Fizbin (talk) 19:58, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

I grew up in Berkeley. Went swimming in Lake Anza, then took my kids to the Redwood Valley Railway and Tilden Park Merry-Go-Round, then later took my girlfriend's dog on walks around Lake Anza. These were the less expensive, local, environmental, amusement parks of my time. I still think Tilden should be listed as an place of "amusement" and "park" rkmlai (talk) 20:49, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

True, there are ponies, a carousel, and a train, but the tone of the Tilden park is by no means amusement park. Search the EBRPD website and you will not find a single instance of the term "amusement." There is a heavy focus on the area as being a place of natural preservation and education. An amusement park is not spread out over a vast expanse of rolling hills and empty space. Every amusement park I have ever been to has been too loud to hear yourself think, in addition to being crammed full of money making verntures. Rkmlai, I am sorry, my friend, but you missed the mark on this one.DukeB-120th 06:44, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Hasay edit

Hey could you set Jordan Hasay's page back to the "bullet point" format it was before someone changed it? I feel it makes a much easier read. Thanks (I'm not sure how to do this). —Preceding unsigned comment added by B0bby flay (talk • contribs) 22:58, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Re:Jordan Hasay

Hello there Fizbin, I closed the Afd as "keep" because, as an uninvolved admin, I found the arguments in favour of keeping the page more rational and convincing. A quick google search showed multiple credible sources, which made non-notability feeble grounds for deletion. Besides, the concerns about the page "reading like a resume" wasn't strong, as articles can be tagged for improvement, not outright deletion. In summary, national standard achievements (verified by good sources), in all likelihood, establishes notability. I considered this discussion a clear-cut case so I didn't provide a closing rationale (otherwise I'd have repeated all "keep" arguments ;))

As for my edits, I added some references to verify notability, for the dearth of outside references in the article could be misintepreted as evidence for non-notability of the subject by many users. (For future AfD reference, it should be noted that the addition of reliable sources, if they exist, is often the best reasoning for keeping an article) The aim of the reformation was essentially to make the page read more like a normal biography article with paragraphs than a list enumerating competitions and awards (please see some other articles and you'll see what I mean :)). I do realise that the article may not represent the materials as clearly as a list, but I dearly hope an editor who is more familiar with the topic than me would help with some rewriting in the future; that would be collaboration at its finest, and how wiki is supposed to work. :) Sorry for any confusion caused regarding the debate closure and my following edits. Best regards, --PeaceNT (talk) 11:54, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

July 2008

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on East Bay Regional Park District. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. BelovedFreak 12:51, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

RE: El Sobrante Hills

Hi Fizbin, I notice that you reverted my deletion of the name derivation for the El Sobrante Hills community. You were the original contributor of that, and I myself live in that community so we both appear to have a common interest, hehe. At any rate, I would argue that the explanation is superfluous because it already appears on the El Sobrante article. Also, I'm not an expert on sourcing on WP, but I'm not sure if it needs a source (though after three years of high school Spanish and extensive interaction with Mexican immigrants, I know this translation to be correct DukeB-120th 06:56, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

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Tyson Gay

I've reduced the wind assisted run info. is that better? Sillyfolkboy (talk) 03:55, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Galen Rupp

I'm sorry, that was pretty careless of me to get that mixed up. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 03:06, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

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"Herb Caen" section in San Francisco Chronicle article

Hello. You did a nice job with breaking up this section into paragraphs. I had in fact written this entire section and I was rather curious about whether or not other editors with knowledge of and interest in this subject would find it fit to stay as it is. I hope that the content meets the approval of all concerned. My writing style, and it it not a style but merely a habit, is to employ fewer paragraph breaks in pursuit of driving home a single idea. But you, whether you are an individual or a consensus, made an improvement here. Best wishes, Nick Lantana11 (talk) 03:22, 17 March 2009 (UTC)Lantana11Lantana11 (talk) 03:22, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

It does need a lot of reworking, starting with a new "front page" image. Lantana11 (talk) 17:32, 17 March 2009 (UTC)Lantana11Lantana11 (talk) 17:32, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

El Sobrante

Hi Fizbin, if you're still interested, could you please comment on Talk:El_Sobrante,_California#Notable_residents to say whether or not you agree with my suggestion, which will enable us to put this conversation to bed? Ta, Bigger digger (talk) 18:22, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

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deleted coordintes during cleanup

Why did you delete the coordinates from Lafayette Reservoir? --Stepheng3 (talk) 23:06, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

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National high school records

I'm in full agreement with most of what you said. I'm aware of Jack Sheppard's work and did try to take what I could find into account. That applies particularly to progression and imperial marks. But most of what I sourced did come from the NFHS, who, whether we like it or not, is the official body.

I did leave this deliberately sport generic, corresponding with the ambiguity of WP:ATHLETE. Being a High School National Record holder (at any point in time) is a condition of notability, so articles about the missing recordholders can be written. I did several, Jeff Nelson just yesterday. I happen to know Track, but someone else might know swimming, or maybe even football and basketball. At that point then we can categorize the sport within sub-categories. Same thing could go for other countries, should they show up in the category. Until then, I'll follow the KISS principle. I look at Wikipedia as a repository for information. If we get more information, we can then design better ways of presenting it.

I notice you seem to be in the Contra Costa area. I understand Cory Schubert is coaching in that area. She is one of those folks that would deserve an article, but there is relatively little information available. Trackinfo (talk) 05:14, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Schbert is a discrepancy between the two lists. The NFHS list I'm working from omits Shea. It actually omits a lot of people or at least discounts certain performances. The big difference I am aware of between the two lists is NFHS does not recognize performances not set in meets they sanctioned. Open races are out. Hassay at the Olympic trials doesn't exist to them. Better yet, Ryun is pictured in the link, but doesn't make their own list. Obviously his 3:51.3 at Berkeley in the National Championships would be omitted, but there is video of him running sub-4 at the Kansas State Meet (an NFHS sanctioned meet) up on the web, which shoots a hole through any idea that their list is accurate by their own standard. Its just the official governing body.

All that said here, we could probably write an article embarrassing NFHS's record keeping, as if they would care. (Technically I'm a member of both NFHS and USATF, and a subscriber to T&FN's e-list). Or we could write the long explanation into each article. Or just use one body recognizing the record as an excuse to write yet another article about a remarkable athlete at the high school level who never made a similar showing on the elite level and use the sourced claim of a national record by one body as an excuse not to have it deleted by the uninformed wikipedia oligarchy. Hell, this is wikipedia: We can merge the two lists and create our own version of the record progression in each event. Masters athletics records were in such disarray, I've already done that to their Masters Athletics World Records and United States records in masters athletics. Trackinfo (talk) 00:20, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

I ended up on that NFHS list while searching for an actual progression. Unless you dig through back issues, T&FNs inconsistent public web presence limits how historical you can trace information back. I guess I see WP as a solution to the absence of information. If we can firmly plant the facts onto the #7 website (or whatever it is now) in the world, the #1 item in most information google searches . . . the information has less of a likelihood of disappearing, even if other links do. Trackinfo (talk) 01:12, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Charlie Francis in Electrical Muscle Stimulation

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Pat Crandall

The events listed on the Masters Athletics records lists match the official record specifications for World Masters Athletics, at least at the time of the performance. They do evolve over time, there will be a General Assembly meeting in July in Sacramento after which changes will be announced. The current standards are posted at: http://world-masters-athletics.org/files/laws_rules/app_a2.pdf We could go crazy with full size shot, discus and javelin records across all ages. And yes, I know there are guys out there now and in the past, throwing those weights with such aspirations. It invites a section, just like Imperial distances on the Open records pages. But we need to make the distinction about these things. By the way, the record is, so far, unsourced. We should source stuff on WP, though it would be interesting to compile such a database. And on a personal note, now that I know about the claimed record, I ought to go after it myself. I'm not that far off. Trackinfo (talk) 01:10, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

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