FalzPNG

August 2022

Please do not add or change content without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. IceWelder [✉] 18:24, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Please don't remove actual informations when you don't know what you're talking about. FalzPNG (talk) 18:29, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

I stated repeatedly that sources are required, but thus far you have failed to add them. Please see WP:BURDEN and WP:V. You also concede that "Cunliffe is not a founder", yet you continue adding him as a founder. Ray Lee, on the other hand, is stated as founder by multiple reliable sources, including the PlayStation Magazine one cited in the article and the IGN article I brought up earlier.

In other reliable sources, the Crytek acquisition is painted as a mere acquisition whereas the transition to Dambuster Studios is portrayed as a closure of the previous studio, establishment of a new studio, and a transition of most employees between the two.

You say the new employees number "came from Martin Wakeley himself", yet you cannot provide the place where he said this.

Please respect WP:BRD. If you have a conflict of interest, you should not be editing the article anyways. In either case, use the talk page to discuss the changes you would like to have implemented instead of warring in the article itself. IceWelder [✉] 19:10, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Lee Ray isn't a founder he was the first employee that's common knowledge and the sentence where I mentioned James Cunliffe is about those who left Rare for FRD. If you only want the founders to be mentioned then remove Lee Ray too, you either keep or remove both, otherwise it doesn't make much sense.

Free Radical Design died in 2009, you talk like it's just a change of name but if you can't separate it from Crytek UK in your mind that's too bad for you. As for the number of employees, I thought you knew how to use Google?

For now please stop removing informations, I wouldn't be editing the page if I didn't know what I was talking about. FalzPNG (talk) 19:25, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

You should probably refresh your memory on reliable sources. If Lee Ray being the first employee Is "common knowledge", how come 0 reliable sources say that, but at least 2 reliable sources say he was a founder? Reliable sources (both contemporary and retrospective) say Crytek bought Free Radical Design and renamed it Crytek UK. The employee number shows up in not a single reliable source. Like I stated, the only result that shows up on Google is this tweet from a fan account, obviously not reliable. If you know exactly which [reliable] source the figure comes from, surely you can add that to the article. I implore you to actually read WP:BURDEN. IceWelder [✉] 19:49, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

The devs literally said it themselves and the fandom knows it, I don't remember where it came from since I've read hundreds of articles/interviews about FRD and the TimeSplitters series so I'm not bullshitting anyone and even the Wikipedia article itself doesn't mention Lee Ray as one of the founders on the top of the page. Obviously I know Crytek bought Free Radical Design, it became just another Crytek studio and so Free Radical was no more. Why can't you find the source for the number of employees if you're that good? I even gave you a big hint already. Now quit implying I'm making things up and leave my corrections on the page please. FalzPNG (talk) 20:07, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Not where I read it originally but here's a presentation of Free Radical Design by themselves where Lee Ray isn't mentioned as one of the founders: https://rgu.jobteaser.com/en/companies/117424-free-radical-design-ltd?reloadCookieBanner=true FalzPNG (talk) 20:10, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

I cannot recall when I accused you of fabricating information. What I did ask you to do is add sources to the article to support the information you are inserting. Given your replies here, I assume you have not read or understood WP:BURDEN yet. Personal attacks are also not in order here; if you cannot find the source you are sure exists, chances are other people (including myself) will not find it either. IceWelder [✉] 08:14, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

You didn't make any accusation but that's what you're implying and trying to prove. FalzPNG (talk) 11:14, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Hi FalzPNG! I noticed that you have reverted to restore your preferred version of Free Radical Design several times. The impulse to undo an edit you disagree with is understandable, but I wanted to make sure you're aware that the edit warring policy disallows repeated reversions even if they are justifiable.

All editors are expected to discuss content disputes on article talk pages to try to reach consensus. If you are unable to agree at Talk:Free Radical Design, please use one of the dispute resolution options to seek input from others. Using this approach instead of reverting can help you avoid getting drawn into an edit war. Thank you. Drm310 🍁 (talk) 22:05, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

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Good thing I only added facts then. FalzPNG (talk) 21:04, 7 August 2022 (UTC)