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Help with adding an infobox?

Hello Doctree. Per your suggestion, I tried adding the Ambassador Infobox to the article I created at Luis Gallegos, but it does not seem to work. Could you advise on how to have this display correctly so I can fill out the fields? Thanks. Numera astra (talk) 15:26, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

I tried doing as you suggested, but could you please take a look, if you have a moment? Thanks. Numera astra (talk) 14:28, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

The Olive Branch: A Dispute Resolution Newsletter (Issue #2)

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This edition The Olive Branch is focusing on a 2nd dispute resolution RfC. Two significant proposals have been made. Below we describe the background and recent progress and detail those proposals. Please review them and follow the link at the bottom to comment at the RfC. We need your input!

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Background Until late 2003, Jimmy Wales was the arbiter in all major disputes. After the Mediation Committee and the Arbitration Committee were founded, Wales delegated his roles of dispute resolution to these bodies. In addition to these committees, the community has developed a number of informal processes of dispute resolution. At its peak, over 17 dispute resolution venues existed. Disputes were submitted in each venue in a different way. Due to the complexity of Wikipedia dispute resolution, members of the community were surveyed in April 2012 about their experiences with dispute resolution. In general, the community believes that dispute resolution is too hard to use and is divided among too many venues. Many respondents also reported their experience with dispute resolution had suffered due to a shortage of volunteers and backlogging, which may be due to the disparate nature of the process. An evaluation of dispute resolution forums was made in May this year, in which data on response and resolution time, as well as success rates, was collated. This data is here. Progress so far Stage one of the dispute resolution noticeboard request form. Here, participants fill out a request through a form, instead of through wikitext, making it easier for them to use, but also imposing word restrictions so volunteers can review the dispute in a timely manner. Leading off from the survey in April and the evaluation in May, several changes to dispute resolution noticeboard (DRN) were proposed. Rather than using a wikitext template to bring disputes to DRN, editors used a new javascript form. This form was simpler to use, but also standardised the format of submissions and applied a word limit so that DRN volunteers could more easily review disputes. A template to summarise, and a robot to maintain the noticeboard, were also created. As a result of these changes, volunteers responded to disputes in a third of the time, and resolved them 60% faster when compared to May. Successful resolution of disputes increased by 17%. Submissions were 25% shorter by word count.(see Dispute Resolution Noticeboard Statistics - August compared to May) Outside of DRN other simplification has taken place. The Mediation Cabal was closed in August, and Wikiquette assistance was closed in September. Nevertheless, around fifteen different forums still exist for the resolution of Wikipedia disputes. Proposed changes Given the success of the past efforts at DR reform, the current RFC proposes we implement: 1) A submission gadget for every DR venue tailored to the unique needs of that forum. Similar to the one that was deployed, with great success, to the DRN. Structured based on the specific issues most commonly dealt with at each forum. Designed to improve the quality of requests for DR and the efficiency of DR at that forum. Applicable at following noticeboards: Dispute resolution, Neutrality, Reliable Sources, Original Research, Biographies of Living Persons, Notability noticeboard, Fringe theories, Conflict of Interest, Ethnic and cultural conflicts, External links, Third opinion, Mediation Committee, Arbitration Committee. Forms will merely fill out any existing templates (such as Arbcom's) and create a markup-free form in line with specific noticeboard practices otherwise. Example form fields: What pages are involved? What users are involved? What is the issue? What resolution is desired? 2) A universal dispute resolution wizard, accessible from Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. This wizard would ask a series of structured questions about the nature of the dispute. It would then determine to which dispute resolution venue a dispute should be sent. If the user agrees with the wizard's selection, s/he would then be asked a series of questions about the details of the dispute (for example, the usernames of the involved editors). The wizard would then submit a request for dispute resolution to the selected venue, in that venue's required format (using the logic of each venue's specialized form, as in proposal #1). The wizard would not suggest a venue which the user has already identified in answer to a question like "What other steps of dispute resolution have you tried?". Similar to the way the DRN request form operates, this would be enabled for all users. A user could still file a request for dispute resolution manually if they so desired. Coding such a wizard would be complex, but the DRN gadget would be used as an outline. Once the universal request form is ready (coded by those who helped create the DRN request form) the community will be asked to try out and give feedback on the wizard. The wizard's logic in deciding the scope and requirements of each venue would be open to change by the community at any time. 3) Additionally, we're seeking any ideas on how we can attract and retain more dispute resolution volunteers.

Please share your thoughts at the RfC.

--The Olive Branch 18:40, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks a million

for the kind suggestions you've made. Thing is, try as I might, I can't add any user templates to my talkpage. I hope to work this out in a no so distant future. I'm particularly interested in adding the language-related ones, since my aim on Wikipedia is just buzzing over the articles in search for typos, misspellings and tacky grammar, both in English and Spanish that is, by the way, my native tongue! PS, don't be mean and restrain from slagging poor ol' PrimeHunter -he's been a hell of a help so far. --Cocolacoste 18:04, 5 October 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cocolacoste (talk • contribs)

Thanks again

for all the information. My talkpage looks a bit snazzier now. As for the signature, I did sign my last post! Dunno what could've happened. No need to watch it, though. Take care, Cocolacoste 01:09, 6 October 2012 (UTC) --Cocolacoste 01:09, 6 October 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cocolacoste (talk • contribs)

A beer for you!

For being so caring and patient! Cocolacoste (talk) 04:01, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

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Dear DocTree,

• You wrote: "is mostly original research". Can you please be more specific? Illustrations for examples are my own work. But how these differ from illustrations in other articles? The example is relevant and illustration describes this example, nothing else. What is wrong here? Can you point to something that was not known before and IS REALLY NEW? I will find place where this is discussed.
• You wrote: "like a textbook or how to manual". What is the subject of the manual? Is there anything in the style that you do not like? I will change this.

You're awesome.

Thanks for the link to Pluma's Fun Page! I'll have a good time exploring that one, it's sure to be helpful. :) I can tell from your talk page that you do a lot of hard work helping new editors which makes me feel even more appreciative that you took the time to share that with me. You're awesome, thank you. --Wieldthespade (talk) 19:40, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Re: Invitation to the Teahouse

@DocTree Thanks for the invitation to the Teahouse. I have no questions at this point as I'm awaiting feedback to all my edits. However if you're able to review some of my editing submissions I would welcome feedback. Ethicalv (talk) 01:33, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

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Re: Invitation to the Teahouse

@DocTree Thanks for providing that link on "Self-published sources (online and paper)". I looked it up and by my reading it allowed the sources I provided: self-published media—whether ... personal websites, ... blogs, ... Internet forum postings, ...are largely not acceptable ... with the exception of material on such sites that is labeled as originating from credentialed members of the sites' editorial staff, rather than users.

I'd appreciate your help in this matter since I've set about documenting an almost exclusively online movement (the "manosphere") that nevertheless consists of hundreds of websites, blogs, and forums. I feel that whether or not one agrees with its positions, it needs to be documented. It is categorically impossible to document such an online movement on wikipedia if its main proponents can't be referred to in wikipedia. This online movement (the "manosphere") arose in response to what they felt was the well documented censorship in the mainstream media of any male opinions on gender issues that dissented from what they refer to as feminist doctrine. So although the movement literally contains hundreds of sites that receive a HUGE amount of combined web traffic, regardless of whether it's because of this censorship they mention or because of their own choice, they are ABSOLUTELY INVISIBLE in the mainstream media. In addition to the fact that its obviously more accurate to document them by referring to them directly, there is also NO OTHER WAY to document them. I'm sure you agree wikipedia shouldn't be robbed of the opportunity to be more complete.

Specifically I'd like whatever help you can provide in ensuring that I'm able to document this movement. Ethicalv (talk) 17:59, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! :)

Hello Doctree, I wanted to stop by & thank you, for kindly inviting me to the "Tea House" page. As a new wikipedia editor,

I'm certain it will be of great help to me, just as soon as I figure out how to use it!...lol It is so good to know I can turn to you for help, regarding any questions. Creating an article for the first time, has proven to be quite a challenge, but with the guidance of other editors, I'm learning.

If you find the time, please visit the article I've created titled The Young Brothers, & kindly look it over. If you should happen to spot any errors, & point them out to me, I would immensely appreciate it.

The article was tagged for deletion almost as soon as I created it, but I have been doing my best to improve upon it to avoid such.

Once again I say, "Thank you" kindly for the invite. Tybllc (talk) 02:54, 8 December 2012 (UTC)tybllcTybllc (talk) 02:54, 8 December 2012 (UTC)  :)

Thank you

Thank you for helping me edit my Wiki page: Morganella morganii. I did it as an assignment for a masters class. Thanks again for your help. NatashaP 03:01, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the Copyeditor's barnstar!

I very much appreciate this barnstar and thanks to you I've found an article I can do a major overhaul on and really contribute! Paul Lir Alexander is in need of a lot of work and is in line at the copy editing backlog page. I am most definitely not interested in the contest there - just need a project to do. It’s not a busy page, therefore I can really dig in!. And wow, look at all of the thank you’s on your page! I left a more fulsome thanks to you on my talk. Yes, it’s enthusiastic and I stand by it!Albeit27 (talk) 21:30, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Holiday cheer

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Happy Holidays

	Happy Holidays DocTree!
	What a nice surprise! Thank you DocTree. I'm hoping you and yours are enjoying this holiday season. I have looked at WP:WER and it looks like a great and more laid back approach for tackling an impt matter! I'll leave a note below. Thanks again for thinking of me this Christmas!  :-) Albeit27 (talk) 18:43, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

How nice to hear from you! Real life has been stealing my wiki time lately lol, but I can hardly wait to get back to editing! Because Ryan Vesey found my blanked diary entry and sent it to WP:WER I feel my thoughts here may apply and I will take advantage of this opportunity of being in touch with you to say - one of the best things about you taking the time to review Chad Everett, besides promoting it to B-class and your visit to my talk, was that I noticed you put in the edit summary “Reassessed bio as Class B after lots of work by Albeit27.” That means so much to me! Thank you! Are you thinking I should join WP:WER? But am I not too new? I don’t want to get in anyone’s way,,, Maybe I could join and kind of hang back, learn, and do what I can in my small ways?,,,

I haven’t been totally absent from wiki. I did a lot of work for Jeffrey Weise, but before I could finalize it, a super hero editor here did an incredible overhaul that the subject deserved. I was amazed watching the page grow to an (IMO) award-worthy effort. I am now looking at his/her work and learning! I’ll be back to editing soon - gnoming, wikifairying, etc. I just wanted you to know. And, oh that X-mas greeting from you looks so pretty on my talk! I realize I’m here for improving wiki and not my talk, lol, but it sure looks nice! My best! Albeit27 (talk) 18:45, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

2013

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		Hello Doctree: Thanks for all of your contributions to Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable New Year! Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 16:13, 31 December 2012 (UTC)