[16:38] <Achille`> hey
[16:38] <Achille`> I need you to unblock someone
[16:38] <Achille`> and remove an automatic block
[16:38] <Achille`> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User%3AChip+off+the+ol%27+%E2%96%88
[16:38] <PeruvianLlama> Whom?
[16:39] <PeruvianLlama> Why the unblock?
[16:39] <Achille`> that's really use User:Pattersonc expermenting w/ Unicode
[16:39] <Achille`> the block triggers an autoblock
[16:39] <Achille`> that blocks his real username too
[16:39] <Achille`> see my userpage
[16:39] <PeruvianLlama> Heh
[16:40] <Achille`> User:Achille -- heavy use of unicode there too
[16:40] <Achille`> Unblock him and remove the autoblock as well please, to all him to edit again
[16:41] <PeruvianLlama> I'm not sure if I understand what the purpose of unblocking the account is - or rather, why the account was created to begin with
[16:41] <PeruvianLlama> And do you know the IP address that was auto-blocked?
[16:41] <Achille`> hold on
[16:41] <PeruvianLlama> OK
[16:41] <Achille`>
[16:41] <Achille`> Pattersonc
[16:41] <Achille`> pattersonc73 to Achille
[16:41] <Achille`> More options 2:09 pm (2 hours ago)
[16:41] <Achille`> Achille,
[16:41] <Achille`> I could use your assistance. My IP became blocked when I created the account "Chip off the ol' ¦". Therefore I can no longer edit on any pages for an indefinate amount of time. I would be most appreciative if you'd post info on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism to get my account, Pattersonc, unblocked.
[16:41] <Achille`> Thank you in advance for any assistance.
[16:41] <Achille`> Sincerely,
[16:41] <Achille`> Patterson
[16:41] <Achille`> see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Achille
[16:41] <Achille`> that's my talk page
[16:41] <Achille`> I have a link that sends emails to my blackberry
[16:42] <Achille`> He was prob just experimenting w/ unicode
[16:42] <Achille`> you can clearly see he was not vandalizing
[16:42] <Achille`> feel free to block that username he created if you find it offensive, but remove the autoblock that blocks his own account as well
[16:43] <PeruvianLlama> Okay, I'm looking into it - I'll get back to you in a minute :)
[16:46] <Achille`> ...just to recap: Good ol' user creates acct w/ while trying out unicode / Curp's Autoblock blockes unicode chars / mediawiki software blocks IPs of blocked usernames / Pattersonc needs unblocking
[16:47] <PeruvianLlama> Yup - Pattersonc's account isn't blocked, but his IP was (as you say) autoblocked. I'm gonna unblock that in a moment.. :)
[16:49] <PeruvianLlama> Okay, I think it's unblocked ;)
[16:49] <Achille`> hmm
[16:49] <Achille`> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User%3AChip+off+the+ol%27+%E2%96%88 still shows blocked
[16:50] <Achille`> If you cant get the unicode character: start - run - charmap.exe - advanced - search for full block, select, copy
[16:51] <PeruvianLlama> Ah, I unblocked the IP itself
[16:52] <Achille`> got it?
[16:52] <PeruvianLlama> Not the account - does Pattersonc want/need that account as well? From the email you pasted, I got the impression he was most concerned about the IP block.
[16:53] <Achille`> I dont see why the account should be blocked
[16:53] <Achille`> Unless you're gonna block every acct w/ chinese, arabic or non-english characters
[16:56] <PeruvianLlama> Heh - true. I'm not quite sure why it was blocked, to be honest. "User" usually refers to the blocked account being too similar to one that already exists, though.
[16:57] <PeruvianLlama> I'm going to leave it blocked for now - if Pattersonc wants to ask for it to be unblocked himself, he can do so.
[16:57] <PeruvianLlama> I left Pattersonc a message on his talk page as well, letting him know what I did, so he can get in touch with me if he needs to.
[16:58] <Achille`> you unblocked the username as well?
[16:59] <PeruvianLlama> I unblocked the IP that created the Chip account - I assume this is Pattersonc's IP as well.
[16:59] <PeruvianLlama> I left the Chip account blocked.
[17:00] <PeruvianLlama> The Pattersonc account was never blocked.
[17:00] <Achille`> If he created the Chip Acct I'm sure he meant to use it
[17:00] <Achille`> No need to be difficult, The account is funny, unique, not spoofing another user.
[17:01] <PeruvianLlama> Well, like I said, now that he can edit with Pattersonc, if he wants to use the Chip account he's able to request it be unblocked on his own :)
[17:01] <Achille`> No, you dont see
[17:01] <Achille`> I'm the Unicode Defender Guy!
[17:01] <PeruvianLlama> Heh
[17:01] <PeruvianLlama> No, I understand - but I'm not sure exactly why Curps auto-blocked it, so I don't want to override that right away.
[17:01] <Achille`> Bah, Curps is autoblocking ALL unicode characters
[17:01] <Achille`> hold on
[17:02] <PeruvianLlama> I've asked a few other admins what criteria there is for blocking accounts with unicode characters (if any exists), and specifically why the Chip account was blocked.
[17:02] <PeruvianLlama> If I find out more, I'll act on it.
[17:02] <Achille`> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User%3A%E2%96%88%E2%96%88
[17:02] <Achille`> As you can see, Curps did the same thing
[17:02] <Achille`> to me
[17:04] <Achille`> you're there, you know the context, dont make it harder than it should be please
[17:05] <PeruvianLlama> Well, you're free to list it on WP:AN/I if you'd like - maybe someone more knowledgeable than I can take a look at it.
[17:06] <Achille`> I"m writing something to Curps right now
[17:06] <Achille`> and I have you, in front of me, talkging
[17:06] <PeruvianLlama> Good idea
[17:06] <PeruvianLlama> Eh?
[17:06] <Achille`> I want you to unblock the chip acct since it was blocked WITHOUT a good reason
[17:07] <Achille`> You saw Curps had blocked my own unicode acct, and I had it unblocked
[17:07] <PeruvianLlama> I understand that. I'm telling you that I don't have enough knowledge of the reason, one way or the other, to unblock the account.
[17:07] <PeruvianLlama> I'm not saying you're wrong - I'm just saying I don't know. :)
[17:08] <Achille`> well, could you "please" talk it out w/ someone and have them unblocked...
[17:08] <PeruvianLlama> Yes, I've already mentioned that I'm asking around about it, and that if I learn more, I'll get back to it.
[17:09] <Achille`> by the way, do you mind if I paste this conversation into Curps talk page?
[17:09] <PeruvianLlama> The whole thing?
[17:09] <PeruvianLlama> It's kinda long.
[17:09] <Achille`> well, His fault to begin w/
[17:10] <PeruvianLlama> If you want to quote parts, feel free - but I don't personally think you need the whole thing.
[17:10] <Achille`> I'll put it on a subpage or something
[17:10] <PeruvianLlama> Just expressing your concern to him/her should be enough for Curps to respond, and hopefully explain things.
[17:10] <Achille`> it's just that WP policy reques permission prior to pasting comments
[17:11] <PeruvianLlama> Indeed - I appreciate you asking first.
[17:12] <Achille`> so that's ok?
[17:13] <PeruvianLlama> If you feel it's necessary, then sure. I don't understand why, exactly, but go ahead.
[17:14] <Achille`> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Curps#Whoa
