Bseegmiller
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I don;t think you are correct about this. The river is south of Santa Paukla, not "east and a little south" of it, and almost directly south of the river, quite close to it, is some high ground. However to the north and east of the city is some rugged ground, which does not appear to be highland, which starts farther north. I've reverted you edit, with no prejudice if you should come up with a reliable source which supports your point. IN the meantimer, since n one has corrected this for quite a long time, it seems like a good idea to stick with the [[status quo ante. Beyond My Ken (talk) 06:39, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
- Well, it turns out it doesn't matter, since the paragraph as written didn't really say what the source did. I've re-written it correspond properly, and there's no longer any description of lowlands outside of Santa Paula, east OR west. Beyond My Ken (talk) 06:51, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
- After having looked at the map (Google -- both Satellite and Terrain), we should agree that the river is south and east, or southeast of Santa Paula. However, from my own experience, and the fact that there's a tributary to the Santa Clarita coming in from the northwest should indicate that the ground level trends to higher ground away from the river. Having traversed this area several times, this is plain to see to the observer. Unfortunately, subject matter expertise doesn't cut it here in the Wikipedia, which is okay by me since that's what the rules are. The flood plain does narrow quite a bit at Santa Paula, but, truly, the ground slopes UP away from the river. In the areas further upstream, the floodplain is pretty flat, but the highway (CA-126) is on relatively high ground, as is the railroad (it was partly washed out further up the valley during the disaster). I like your new section; the location of the Santa Clara River operator isn't clear, so whether she was in Santa Paula or elsewhere is not known. I'll study up on it more. Thank you. Bseegmiller (talk) 19:53, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
- My error about the east versus south stems from my traverse of the valley, and that the valley trends mostly east/west, but I have always thought of myself traveling north/south on it, and with the river off to one side, so I thought east. (The numbering of the highway -- even -- denotes a generally east/west direction, even though there are local deviations, particularly with the 101 which goes east/west along the coast, and might be confusing to non-locals.) My bad, in the vernacular. Also, the tributary comes in mostly from the north, not the northwest, which should indicate that it's still uphill from the river. There are many valleys with mostly intermittent streams in this area, with broad, fairly flat floodplains that slope fairly gently upstream. Good farmland, except in a bad flood, which, being SoCal, just is one of the things that happens. Bseegmiller (talk) 20:11, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info, based on your personal experience. Best, Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:39, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
- You are most welcome, and thanks for the helpful tips! Bseegmiller (talk) 23:35, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info, based on your personal experience. Best, Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:39, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
- My error about the east versus south stems from my traverse of the valley, and that the valley trends mostly east/west, but I have always thought of myself traveling north/south on it, and with the river off to one side, so I thought east. (The numbering of the highway -- even -- denotes a generally east/west direction, even though there are local deviations, particularly with the 101 which goes east/west along the coast, and might be confusing to non-locals.) My bad, in the vernacular. Also, the tributary comes in mostly from the north, not the northwest, which should indicate that it's still uphill from the river. There are many valleys with mostly intermittent streams in this area, with broad, fairly flat floodplains that slope fairly gently upstream. Good farmland, except in a bad flood, which, being SoCal, just is one of the things that happens. Bseegmiller (talk) 20:11, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
- After having looked at the map (Google -- both Satellite and Terrain), we should agree that the river is south and east, or southeast of Santa Paula. However, from my own experience, and the fact that there's a tributary to the Santa Clarita coming in from the northwest should indicate that the ground level trends to higher ground away from the river. Having traversed this area several times, this is plain to see to the observer. Unfortunately, subject matter expertise doesn't cut it here in the Wikipedia, which is okay by me since that's what the rules are. The flood plain does narrow quite a bit at Santa Paula, but, truly, the ground slopes UP away from the river. In the areas further upstream, the floodplain is pretty flat, but the highway (CA-126) is on relatively high ground, as is the railroad (it was partly washed out further up the valley during the disaster). I like your new section; the location of the Santa Clara River operator isn't clear, so whether she was in Santa Paula or elsewhere is not known. I'll study up on it more. Thank you. Bseegmiller (talk) 19:53, 10 August 2019 (UTC)