User talk:Bocafan76/Archive 2

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wasn't vandalism i provided links T john1986 (talk) 22:39, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

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Club Honors

They are, by very definition, minor titles. They don't have what the major competitions have. For example, the Supercopa Masters only ran for two editions (you can hardly call it major). The Copa de Oro ran for three. Not much different. The Copa Rio de La Plata and the Amateur Era championships are in the minor list simply for being tournaments from the amateur era. The Intercontinental Cup and Interamerican Cup were a really bad joke on the sport. The Intercontinental Cup started promising but by 1980 it became a glorified friendly, a Mickey Mouse Cup. So bad that some teams started abstaining from even participating and some editions were never played at all (especially the 1970s). And if that wasn't bad enough, some company from Japan (Toyota) had to come in 1980 to make some money from save the competition. Seriously, the Copa Libertadores champion HAS NEVER been obligated to participate in such event; the winner could have not wanted to participate at all so this "the Libertadores champion qualifies for the IC" is not true. It is the other way around: the IC gets to have the winner of the Copa Libertadores participate.

And as for the Interamerican Cup?...lol that just has Mickey Mouse written all over it. Seriously, Boca Juniors is too big of a club to worry about some BS competitions,like the above, that only serve for statistical purposes. Especially the IC. I mean, it would be one thing if it were still like the old days (home and away) but it turned into a joke starting in 1971. The Copa Liberatadores titles, Supercopa, etc. hold far more weight then a little competition that is one match long.

Since I have your attention, I would like to invite you to help me promote South American football. If you go to the Copa Libertadores page, you will notice that I have done some major revamping on this and other South American tournaments. Even UEFA doesn't have it this good. However, I need help. Are you interested? Jamen Somasu (talk) 09:38, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

If you check out any Feauture article in football, you will notice they all have the full, official names on the article's page. We could discuss why it should or should not be that way. The redirect links serve the purpose of redirecting popular phrases of the subject at hand back to the subject itself.

BTW, how much do you know about the Intercontinental Cup between Manchester and Estudiantes? Jamen Somasu (talk) 18:46, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

2009–10 in Argentine football

Hi, I like the changes you made to the National team part on the page and the preceding years of Argentine football. I edited the National team section from a table to a collapsible stacked format for some of the years and I'm in the process of doing the same for all similar pages. If you can fill in info I miss, please do. Thanks 07-10-2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.156.62.227 (talk) 17:57, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Well done mate, we completed the national team section for all years as far back as the 2002-03 season! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.156.171.4 (talk) 22:55, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Naming of Argentine lower leagues' clubs

Hi, or hola, whichever you prefer. Now that User:King of the North East is unluckily retired you seem to be the one to carry his legacy in the heavy maintenance of Argentine football articles. For that I'm grateful, and congratulate you in your effort and dedication.

Anyway, that's not why I'm here. I happened to find that most lower leagues' teams' articles are not titled by their common name (see Club Atlético Tucumán and Club Social y Deportivo Defensa y Justicia for example). I changed some before finding out that most of them follow this unfortunate pattern. I'm sure you are aware that WP:TITLE states that articles' should be named according to their common names. That being said, is there any reason why I should not change them all? Have you at any other time reached a consensus not to do so? I wouldn't want to launch a cruzade and then be reverted. Thanks for your time y saludos desde Argentina. Fache (talk) 08:21, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your answer. I've raised the question here. Regards. Fache (talk) 21:04, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

RE: Notable players

Hi. I made a sweep through (mostly) all Argentine football clubs applying the recommendations they gave me at WP:FOOTY (link). In my opinion the best course of action is to change the criteria to a more demanding one. That way you could probably get all the notable players in only one reference. For example: most games with the club.

Nonetheless, if you want to keep the 50-games criteria (though I recommend to at least set it at 100) you are right that it would be insane to reference each and every one of them. Referencing the red ones should be enough. However, in that case the {{Inc-sport}} tag should stay, otherwise the reader might think the listed players are ALL the ones who have played more than 50 games in the club's history. Regards. Fache (talk) 23:36, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

You can always establish a more detailed criteria to avoid cutting out notable players that don't satisfy the 100 games. Check what I did at Vélez (link): 100 games, or an individual award (e. g. league top scorer), or 20 national team games, or a World Cup participation. In the future, I plan to tidy it up in sections, even if that means repeating the same player in all four of them (Chilavert satisfies the 4 criterias).

Anyway, I leave it to your creativity and good judgement. Improving those sections in Argentine clubs is long overdue. Regards. Fache (talk) 00:30, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

I see, it ultimately depends on how you define "notable player" (players with notable contributions to the club? or players who are notable per se and have played in the club?). I always understood that players with a significant international career should be worth mentioning as a "notable former player" (for example: Nolberto Solano has only 32 games in Boca, but his 95 caps make him notable per se and worth mentioning). Anyway, the important thing is to choose a criteria (anyone) and stick to it, so that the section is not just a pov list. Regards. Fache (talk) 03:53, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

FIFA Club World Cup and intercontinental club competitions

Hi friend, FIFA says; "With respect to the history of the FIFA Club World Cup and intercontinental club competitions in years gone by, such as the Copa Rio in the 1950s, the FIFA Executive Committee endorsed the view that the first edition of this competition was held in 2000 in Brazil where Corinthians became the very first FIFA club world champions. Other tournaments are not considered official FIFA events".

If you read that carefull, FIFA referred to all intercontinental club competitions, copa rio its just an example... the last phrase explain all; "the first edition of this competition was held in 2000 in Brazil where Corinthians became the very first FIFA club world champions. Other tournaments are not considered official FIFA events". Other tournaments are not considered official FIFA events, that meanes all, only the FIFA club world cup winner its considered world club champion, FIFA even not recognized any other intercontinental club competition... The intercontinental cup it was official UEFA CONMEBOL, but all the clubs who won that competition cannot be considered as world club champion in law, just an ordinary winner of an official UEFA CONMBOL club competition, as you know, both european champions club cup and copa libertadores had much more importance that the intercontinental cup.

Best regards; jpaslb —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jpaslb (talk • contribs) 14:07, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

SL Benfica

How is putting the starting lineup considered vandalism? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.60.251.17 (talk) 11:20, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Argentina national football team

was not any error. Just let the players called for Batista, the new coach. Before the players were summoned by MARADONA, not now.

I am Argentinian, not American or English, if I can not understand something —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexis Damián Rossi (talk • contribs) 01:47, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Ok. Voy a aclarar lo de últimos 12 meses. --Alexis Damián Rossi (talk) 01:18, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Karim Benzema

Sorry, I believed that the source was reliable but I may be incorrect, thank you for changing it back to the correct amount. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.54.26.66 (talk) 01:22, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Benzema is a class player and he deserves more play time than he gets. Good night. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.54.26.66 (talk) 01:32, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

What a piece of garbage!

Hi there BOCA my friend!

I see that after you sent this message to a "user" which was vandalizing (see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:95.16.202.56), he replied by SEVERELY insulting you in his own talk page. What an imbecile!! I am going to report him right away to an administrator. I also discovered your warnings are almost one year old, but i only found about them now, and he keeps vandalizing Nuno André Coelho's article with different IPs.

Nice work, keep it up, thanks for your help, from Portugal - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 19:48, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

• And he continues in N.A. Coelho, with a different IP, he must also hate me terribly after what i said in one of the summaries while reverting him (i know i should not, but i just lose my patience with these "persons"). If you notice, without clicking "undo" to undo my version, he went bit by bit and destroyed my entire last version, thus recreating redirects and other wrong stuff. Pathetic!!

User:Satori Son, the administrator i asked help from, spends large periods of time away from WP, "caught him" in one of those days unfortunately. I also better be prepared, cause i think this idiot vandal is coming after me. Saludos - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 00:30, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Manchester United

Im sorry if im causing a problem but this user PeeJay2K3 is always always reverting my edits when I know they are correct, its so annoying he is the type of person that if he see's something he doesnt like he reverts it. On the manchester page its always him that has to make the edits like its his page when its not! all im asking is that someone needs to tell him to not revert every edit he see's. thank you.

Ezequiel Lavezzi

ok since i know a bit more about soccer than you seem to, lavezzi scored 2 international goals for the argentine national team, now although the team was made up of only under23 players, the games themself were not played as argentine under 23 v australia and serbia, those games were played under the banner of the argentine national team, and as such should be counted as goals for the team, get your facts straight son —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.64.80.141 (talk) 01:40, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Heat captain

Hello, according to the official Miami Heat website the team's captains are Haslem and Wade. Now I'm not going to "cite" it or whatever but if you care about your precious wikipedia being accurate, you might do it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.196.178.236 (talk) 18:57, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Reverting the attack.

Hey,

Thanks for reverting the personal attack on my talkpage! But I thought I'd let you know that that attack came from IP addressed by User:Jamen Somasu (yes, him). The warning you posted on his talk page won't do much (unfortunately). So next time, just revert, block, ignore. Thanks. Digirami (talk) 14:33, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

List ideas

Hey,

Would you be interested in helping me create two list articles for Boca Juniors: one for players, one for managers? This would be the main source. Digirami (talk) 05:38, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Nuno André Coelho

Hi there BOCA, VASCO here,

i bring this to your attention because the idiot vandal also insulted you, like me for the same reason, which is...NOTHING! The protection was lifted, he returned and screwed up the box again, this time it's "safe" for three months :)

Sad, so sad...Saludos from Portugal - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 20:38, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Argentine Primera División

Hi. Most European Football leagues in Wikipedia bear the logo of their championship. I believe your interpretation of the policy on logos is perhaps misguided and wish for you to agree to at least have the logo of AFA if the football crest of clubs are inacceptable to you. Do you believe we can resolve this difference of opinion fairly to both us? I give up the football crests, you allow the main logo? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Icardero (talk • contribs) 02:13, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Peru national football team (Recent call-ups)

What does "recent call-ups" mean? If a player is named to the team and that player plays in that match should not he be included in that list?! IP user 98.231.216.196 has removed Cristian Benavente from said list twice now. Raul17 (talk) 23:54, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

List of Real Madrid C.F. seasons

Can you improve and correct the mistakes and to create another seasons : List of Real Madrid C.F. seasons. Thank you. The first seasons do not have correct information, I have on my computer, lists with all the official games played by Real Madrid, I can send it by e-mail to you. I wrote in Microsoft Word, but they are different format compared with the one from Wikipedia.--Alexiulian25 (talk) 16:40, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

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Women's uniforms

Hi, I restored the 2024 uniforms that you had previously reverted on Argentina women's U17.

This is because uniforms were launched on social media showing kits for all teams (include women's squads, according to source) so I waited until the South American competition finished to restore the edit. Please don't revert it again, thanks. Fma12 (talk) 20:42, 6 April 2024 (UTC)