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Beverly, Massachusetts edit

Hi, Bob. We seem to be having a miscommunication here. Content is decided by concensus. That's how Wikipedia has always worked. If you add something and no one contests it, it stands, but may be modified at any time. But if someone contests it, it is out until a concensus is formed. Putting it back without concensus is called edit warring and is seriously frowned upon. I'm typing this note because I have a few minutes. I, just like you, am a volunteer and I haven't much time for Wikipedia right now. I'll respond when I have time, which may be late tonight my time (MDT). Remember, Wikipedia has no deadline. Forming a consensus can sometimes be a long process. Be patient, remember that we are both supposed to have the best interest of the encyclopedia in mind and it will work out. There are processes if we cannot come to an agreement, but in no case will either being in a hurry or taking any of this personally serve either you or the process.

A note on what an encyclopedia is. By definition, it is a tertiary source. That means all our content is supposed to come from reliable secondary sources such as books, newspapers, magazines, academic journals etc. Your sources are primary documents. If secondary sources are not talking about it, we don't either. You can use primary documents to provide details (statistics, etc) or to expand on what secondary sources ate saying, but your basic facts need secondary sources. Hope that helps us resolve this. John from Idegon (talk) 21:06, 21 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

Moving the conversation to your page edit

William Cummings as Notable Person in Medford[edit]

Hello,

I recently added William Cummings as a notable person from Medford, Massachusetts and you undid the revision. Mr Cummings is a highly successful and respected entrepreneur and founder of Cummings Foundation. Furthermore, he was the first Massachusetts resident to become a member of the Giving Pledge. Can you justify your reasons for removing my edit? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobjohnson89 (talk • contribs) 16:02, 17 November 2016 (UTC)


  • Response - there are a couple of things wrong with your edit to notable people from Medford, first there is not a reliable source indicating this person is actually from Medford, second his notability has not yet been established. This is typically done by having an article written about him on Wikipedia by an independent editor. I do not see such an article, nor even an article on his foundation. Those are the two issues with his being included in the list of notable Medfordians. (Justified and he will be removed again) VVikingTalkEdits 16:46, 17 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

With that being said, I have done a quick search of him and his foundation, and it looks like someone could easily write an article about Bill or the foundation. I have started a couple of articles but I have never actually completed one, so I would not be the best person for this, but if you would like to take a try that would be good. You would want to put it in your sandbox or draft form and also read the guide to writing your first article. good luck VVikingTalkEdits 17:09, 17 November 2016 (UTC)Reply