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I thought you might be interested in Wikipedia's guidelines for Wikipedia editors who are the subjects of Wikipedia articles. I can see your point about the plot summary for the novel, but is there a reason you keep removing the adjective 'gay?' I was under the impression that Chee could be verified to be gay and didn't object to being described by that term. (Note that I'm open to the possibility that you are the author, and also to the possibility that you are not, as we do, unfortunately, see a fair number of impersonators around here. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 21:41, 25 April 2009 (UTC)Reply

Did you read that link yet? We really prefer that people refrain from making big changes to articles about themselves, for the same reason that newspapers don't allow people to edit the articles about themselves. In addition, you restored a much shorter, less detailed version that has a number of formatting errors in it. Would you like to discuss your desired changes with other users on the article talk page over the next few days, and help us work to create a better version? I'd be glad to drop a line at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject LGBT studies‎ or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Books and get a few volunteers over there if you like. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 21:51, 25 April 2009 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for explaining and for the offer of help. I am the author and am happy to go through whatever process you require to verify my identity. It is very important to me to act as soon as possible to get the disgustingly pornographic description of my novel off of that page, as I feel it is affecting the sales badly and it is destructively inaccurate as a summary---anyone who trusts Wikipedia and reads that would be afraid to read my novel. It was written by someone who has some sort of agenda he's trying to press with my work regarding pedophilia.

I removed "gay" from the lede because while I am gay and a queer activist, of long standing, I'm also of the belief that my work speaks enough about my sexuality and my ethnicity that I get to just be named myself and have the integrity of my complicated identity. Not all of my work is of gay content, just as is it not all Korean American, and I feel that calling me a "gay author" makes that the implication and expectation.

It's possible that someone will ask you to verify your identity (a note on your blog would do the trick), but for myself, I believe you, so don't bother on my account. :) I agree with you that authors shouldn't be pigeonholed; a good author is a lot more than the groups he or she belongs to. But I also hate to see writers' articles stripped of reference to their orientation, which I think contributes to the false assumption that everyone is straight. Normally, details like 'gay,' 'Korean-American,' and 'ruggedly handsome' (hee) would go in the section about your personal life... but this article is so short that it doesn't have one yet! Are you aware of any articles out there that profile you in a way I could use to build a sort paragraph about your life? Let me take a closer look at that plot summary- I think I'm starting to see your point about it- and see if I can clean it up a bit... (unrelated- I was reading your blog, and liked what you had to say about "Watchmen." -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:19, 25 April 2009 (UTC)Reply
I did a cleanup of Edinburgh (novel); is it accurate? I'm afraid I haven't actually read this novel; I was just patrolling recent changes for WikiProject LGBT studies when I came upon it. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:31, 25 April 2009 (UTC)Reply
And I've messed about a bit with Alexander Chee, though it doesn't look like many people have written nearly as much about you personally as they have about your work (at least, as far as I could find with a fifteen-minute google search). You know what would be really neat? If you felt inclined to release a good picture of yourself under the GFDL to have on the article about you. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:42, 25 April 2009 (UTC)Reply

It's much better, thank you, though the part that occurs after the second half of the novel is a little clipped. But perhaps if I summarize the plot for you, it might help.

15 years later, after the events of the book's first half, Fee takes a temporary job at a private school as an art teacher and swim coach. Warden, the director's son, is there and becomes his student, and neither knows the true identity of the other, or suspects. Warden, though, bears an uncanny resemblance to Peter, Fee's first love, and worse, Warden becomes infatuated with him and eventually seduces Fee, who is happily married by then, to a man named Bridey.

When that happens, Fee is thrown into a confrontation with himself and how he's been controlled by these ghosts from his past. And he emerges with a new sense of himself and his life in the process.

Does that help?

I have no problem with that information about me being gay being in the body of the article on me as an author. In the lede, my objection is really that it feels reductive. I feel made to wear some pink triangle on my forehead instead of having it incorporated into my life.

Thanks for being willing to help me. Most of the profiles of me are not on the web, that I know of. Here is a recent interview that might help. http://www.kartikareview.com/issue4/4chee.html Also, I am the only Korean American openly gay author at this time, who's published a book-length work of fiction, and the first. Ths can be confirmed through Stephen H. Sohn at Stanford---a group of scholars at the most recent MLA told me this. I'm quite proud of that. But again, in the body. And thanks, also, for the compliment about the blog, and for understanding. I have to leave right now, but I will do as you suggest regarding the photo and so on.

Ah, so he isn't actually tormented by his gayness? I wondered about that when I read the previous summary. I'm thinking I agree with you- the gay writers category at the bottom of the page is probably sufficient, at least until some scholar writes a biography of you that we can use for fleshing out the article. I'm surprised that you're the only openly gay Korean-American novelist out there... but then I tried to think of someone else, and my brain gave me Michelle Tea, who isn't even Asian-American as far as I know. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:50, 25 April 2009 (UTC)Reply
Does Fee find out who Warden really is? Is this love, stupid sex, or awful exploitation? How does Fee's husband react? No, don't answer that. I think I need to make a trip to the library; this sounds like a pretty good book. In any case, my calendar says that I have to go drink wine and watch The Simpsons now, but I'll check in on this article again in the morning. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:57, 25 April 2009 (UTC)Reply

Alexander Chee? edit

I have just noticed your major edits to Edinburgh. I've sent you a mail at gmail to verify your identity. I hope that is OK, best wishes, Tony19:58, 26 April 2009 (UTC)