Baphin

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Selam , Türk karşıtı kullanıcı Khoikhoi ingilizce wikipedia'da adminlik için şansını deniyor.Daha fazla türk gelirse bunu engelleyebiliriz. Oyunu burdan kullanabilirsin Teşekkürler. (85.97.143.5 18:06, 26 March 2006 (UTC))

List of Freemasons - Turkey

On the Talk page to List of Freemasons, it clearly states that no unsupported material is to be added. There is a section in "Removed" on Turkey that states that none of those individuals could be verified as Masons. If you can prove that they are Masons via a reputable source, post the references in the relevant section on the Talk page. Otherwise, please do not re-add them. MSJapan 03:53, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

• Web site of various regular Grand Lodges of the world are alone enough for this dispute. The edited (vandalized) section has been reverted, and an answer has been posted under MSJapan's discussion page. Baphin 12:10, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Then find them and cite them. Add the citations to the relevant section on the page, and then we can put the section back. Also to say that all the GL sites of the world list Turkish Freemasons is highly arrogant, and if it was so easy to do it, whyt don't you just get the info and post it instead of arguing with me over it? MSJapan 00:06, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

I would also point out that I looked up Hasan Saka, one of the people on your list. All the results were in Turkish. I don't read Turkish, so I can't prove that those sites aren't anti-Masonic, as some that had English snippets were very suspect ("Armenian genocide" and "Jew" were terms I noted, and these sorts of things tend to figure into Masonic conspiracies). So, unless you can point out an unbiased source (I found no list of famous Turkish Freemasons on GL Turkey's website) they're going to have to stay off. MSJapan 00:13, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

extremely vulgar, highly ignorant and unbelievably illiterate in terms of freemasonry. no freemason would use such words and attitude. it is obvious that he has no idea about how craft works out at all. no such person in bigotry can be a member of the craft, or should stay as a a member of the craft with this atttitude. i guess, this small but illuminating conversation of yours uncovered the face of this user. of course, i have nothing more to say. i am just sorry for the unnecessary usage of the world's oxygen by such living organisms. Baphin 12:51, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

MSJapan said: (I found no list of famous Turkish Freemasons on GL Turkey's website). Perhaps Turkish language has been a problem, or you have no idea what GL of Turkey is, as where its web site is. Check: http://www.mason.org.tr/unlutr.htm for the famous Turkish freemasons list. Only if you know what is it all about. Very doubtful for such a user anyways. Baphin 13:00, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Also all in Turkish, which I alreadty stated I can't read. If I'm illiterate because I don't understand Turkish, then I guess I'm illiterate, but as long as this is the English wikipedia, the sources need to be in English as well. I'm tired of this nonsense, and there is nothing to be gained in arguing with you. I will also point out that you didn't add the citation where I asked you to. I will notify an admin, and he or she can take care of this. MSJapan 18:12, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Also, read this: Sources in languages other than English MSJapan 18:16, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

• Do not add uncited & unverifiable entries to this article. Period. Their place is on the talk page, until they can be cited & verified. And then they can be placed on the main article's page, as per exstensive editor consensus. Grye 01:07, 23 January 2006 (UTC) (reverted Grye 09:24, 24 January 2006 (UTC))

• Listen. Baphin. It's not like we have anything against the Turkish, or Freemasons, or Turkish Freemasons. It's just that there's a very concise method to this list, & just imagine if someone listed some horrible Turkish guy as a Turkish Freemason, & even invented a lodge for him to hail from, &/or cited some page that english-reading users of an english encyclopedia couldn't read & verify. What then? The tables would be turned... Please consider reading the talk pages, & history, of this article before throwing a bunch of uncited people onto it. Perhaps, as a native speaker of Turkish, you could be extremely useful to this end, but your edits here seem to possibly make it difficult for some editors to actually trust you. Perhaps we all could start out anew somehow, learn to understand the issues at hand and the history & difficulty of the article, & go from there ?~D Grye 09:34, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Userboxes

As Baphin is not listed on the Kindness Campaign list, I must assume that any and all non-Babel userboxes on his page are taken from others simply because, or to present a false front. Therefore, I am removing Kindness Campaign and the Masonic emblem, as I believe that was lifted from my page anyhow. MSJapan 04:22, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

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Beşiktaş revision

I was planning on removing the short 2-1 section because it didn't fit, and that worked out. However, noting the 2-1 victory and then naming the 8-0 loss works very well within the article. I trust that your support of Fenerbahçe will not cause any problems in other Turkish teams' articles. Monsieurdl 19:42, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Well done. :) Monsieurdl 22:02, 7 November 2007 (UTC)