User talk:BabelStone/Archive 2009

Re: Baduk

I fixed it, though I actually didn't break anything. i moved the dab page to Baduk 2 years ago and it was played around with earlier today. Wizardman 13:21, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. BabelStone (talk) 13:45, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Not a "minor edit"

Hi Babel,

I don't object to you removing the stuff about expensive stones from the Go game intro. You have a point, it's "out of scope." I am troubled tho that I didn't find the change on my watchlist page, because I watch the Go article. Did you perhaps mark it as a "minor edit"? If so, that was inappropriate.

kibi (talk) 17:11, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Strange, I have it on my watchlist, and it was not minor. Software glitch? HermanHiddema (talk) 18:05, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, very strange. I don't think I did anything unusual in the edit, and I certainly never try to hide my edits ... or make edits which I think would be controversial. BabelStone (talk) 20:24, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Li Fanwen

On April 12, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Li Fanwen, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Shubinator (talk) 21:29, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

List of languages by writing system‎s and Dyalexia

you do not seem to have any knowledge of the links bewtween dyslexia and language and writing systems, which may not be your fault, but may be you should try to learn about these issues before deleting the work of others who understand these issues.

dolfrog (talk) 10:05, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

It's not a question of whether there any relationship between bewtween dyslexia and language and writing systems, but whether writing systems belong to the category Dyslexia. And it is my strong belief that it is an inappropriate category for List of languages by writing system. Dyslexia is obviously related to humans, but Human is not included in the category Dyslexia. BabelStone (talk) 11:25, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

The neurological issues that can cause a human to be dyslexic vary depending on the Writing system a dyslexic individual is born into. The orthography of the writng system dictates the type of neurolgical process that causes the dyalexic symptom, the best researched examplke is the case of a boy who was bilingual in english and Japanese, and was only dyslexic in English. have a look at Dyslexia History section 1999

And with in each writing system each language varies in tis orthogaphy which again can influenc the ease at which a dyslexic may be able to access the written langauge see Dyslexia: Orthography

so this is not about your opinion more about researched science, you may not like it but that is not what WIKI is about

dolfrog (talk) 14:19, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

trying to find a solution to writing systems and dyslexia

Thank you for adding the category again

about me

I am dyslexic, and I have had Auditory Processing Disorder(APD) diagnosed as the underlying cause of my dyslexic symptoms. Due to my APD I have word recall problems and poor sequencing skills, as well as poor langauge processing abilities both verbal and written. Which can be problems when working in a WIKI environment. Not trhough personal choice I have temporarily become editor of the WIKI dyslexia project, usually i just do the research and provide the information for other to edit and maintain the article, however the leading editors left the project for various reasons, and the article was way too long and repetitive, and the content did not match the supporting references in too many places. So for the last month I have been knee deep in research papers just rying to correct waht was on the existing page, before braeking it up into a main summary article with supporting specialist topic articles. Personally i usually find the WIKi enviroment too alien to my own communication disabilities that I have tended until now to avoid working on WIKi articles diresctly. Recent research, well 1999 but previously unknown to me, reveal a case of a boy who is bilingual speaking both Japanese and English but who dyslexic only in English. The reason for this seeming disparity is that ihe is able to process the logographic langauge system of Japanese but not the phoentic structures of the English Latin Alphabetic wrirng system. The cause of this would be the lack of neurologicla phonlogicla processing abilities, (and probably in my opinion auditory processing disorder) writing systems are the visual notation of speech, so they have both visual and auditory information processing components skills required to understand the meaning of the written code. And the orthography of each langaue will require a different mictute of these neurlogical abilities. At the same time teachers will need to understand the skills required to learn to read these writing systems and the different orthographies with in these writing systems. And which nuerologicla skills will require development for non dyslexic readers and how to recognise the nuerologicla problems that dyslexics may have witha specific langauge orthography both with a writing system and between different writing system, espercially if there are areas of overlap.

I see from your own article that you are from the UK, like me, and that you are a linguist, so may be we should be helping each other from our different areas of specialisation to help other understand these issues more.

dolfrog (talk) 23:32, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I guess this should be discussed on the Mediation section you started rather than separately here and on my page. -- Evertype·✆ 08:23, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Agreed! I really don't like article-specific discussion to take place on user talk pages, and I will not respond to any further discussion of this issues here. BabelStone (talk) 08:38, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

I award you, and invite you to an exclusive forum

Hi, my name is Eric Connor. I want to thank you for giving liubo so much deserved attention. I am the one who uploaded the images already seen in the article before you added your very useful diagrams (I personally took the photos of that Eastern Han model at the Metropolitan Museum of Art).

Your contribution is very impressive, and I was wondering if you would like to join an exclusive online history forum where like-minded academics such as yourself congregate to translate Chinese sources into English and discuss scholarly published works. It is not yet open to the public and as of yet only has 43 members. We are a sordid bunch of college students, college professors, antique collectors, archaeologists, authors, etc. I hope you will consider this offer. Email me at iamericconnor@yahoo.com or at guitargod7_5@hotmail.com, either one is ok. Cheers and thank you so much for showing Wiki care!--Pericles of Athens^Talk 13:45, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your kind comments and for my first barnstar (yay!). I have been watching the Liubo article for some time now, so I am aware of your involvement in the article (and of course I am familiar with some of the impressive work you have done on Wikipedia). I have been collecting Liubo pictures for quite a few years now, but unfortunately none of them are suitable for use on Wikipedia, so I'm really glad that you were able to upload the Met pics. BabelStone (talk) 22:42, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, your contributions to liubo are certainly impressive, but what I should have mentioned was something much more impressive: your specialization in Manchu, Mongolian, Khitan, and the Tibetan Phagspa script. You would be a very cherished member of our forum if you chose to join, since our members are actively translating materials from various Han Chinese sources (mainly 24 histories, but also many other texts) and would love to work with translations from non-Han-Chinese works as well. If you choose to join, I'll share the links to the forum via email. Cheers!--Pericles of Athens^Talk 22:32, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

I've emailed you about the forum. BabelStone (talk) 22:50, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Excellent! I've given you a response as well. Yes, I've been quite busy on Wikipedia for the past two years. My latest achievement was getting the various Han Dynasty articles nominated and passed as a featured topic. I'm currently compiling notes for a total rewrite of Ancient Egyptian literature. If you're interested in the pictures I've taken or uploaded to Wikipedia, you might find yourself to be lost for a couple of hours browsing through this page of mine (lol). Cheers!--Pericles of Athens^Talk 23:23, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi Andrew. Just dropping by to tell you (if you haven't noticed already!) that your account has been validated at the forum. Have fun! Cheers.--Pericles of Athens^Talk 14:56, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Tis the day

I got my first barnstar this morning too (well yesterday by now), . -- Evertype·✆ 23:01, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Wow, that's some coincidence -- congrats! I've vaguely noticed all the furore over in your corner of the Wikipedia, I really don't envy you. I've been keeping nice and quiet with The Hobbit today -- please let me know when the Irish translation comes out. BabelStone (talk) 23:17, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Liubo

On July 12, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Liubo, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 09:36, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

User boxes

The Orkhon user box should be Old Turkic, I believe... -- Evertype·✆ 08:18, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Maybe, I don't have strong feelings on the matter ... if you want to change "Orkhon" to "Old Turkic" simply modify Template:User iso15924/name accordingly. BabelStone (talk) 11:30, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Incidentally, I wonder if it is worthwhile adding in all the ISO 15924 codes to Template:User iso15924/name, Template:User iso15924/character (you probably know which the best character to use for each missing script is) and Template:User iso15924/data-table in advance rather than waiting for them to be added (sometimes badly) piecemeal (like I did with Phags-pa and Yi yesterday). BabelStone (talk) 11:35, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Duke Cheng

I am doing a little project using the Chenggong section of the Zuozhuan, wanted to check something and found there was no wiki article. When i try to look for an article and don't find it, I start one. Thanks for your help.

ello

I just recently installed Ubuntu and I am having a challenge finding an input method that inputs Tibetan script via EWTS somewhat like the functionality of TISE for Windows. Would you recommend anything? I can't figure out how to make SCIM work. I have BabelPad installed on Ubuntu which kinda works through Wine though I can't get any of the help or instructions. I wonder if that is a limitation of Wine. I type Wylie in BabelPad and convert it to Tibetan but when I paste it in Wikipedia it is invisible. I have installed Tibetan Machine Uni and Jomolhari for Ubuntu and see Tibetan script in some Wikimedia pages. Any help would be wonderful. I am a newby wanting to progress a learning Tibetan curriculum on Wikiversity. I transcribe my learnings as lessons for others that follow. B9 hummingbird hovering ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:26, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Can you convert some Wylie to Tibetan using BabelPad, and then paste it into my talk page here? BabelStone (talk) 22:36, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

གནསལུག

I pasted it in the line above and it looks invisible to me.སI appreciate your help and time.

B9 hummingbird hovering ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:29, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

I see GNASLUG (with no tsheg) in Tibetan, so if this is what you think you pasted in then there is no problem at that end. If you cannot see the Tibetan you pasted in, then it must be some incompatibility between your system and Wikipedia. Check Help:Multilingual_support_(Indic)#Check_for_existing_support to see how your system renders the sample Tibetan script, and if it is invisible I can only suggest asking for help at Help_talk:Multilingual_support_(Indic). Sorry for not being able to be of more help. BabelStone (talk) 13:37, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Ashtamangala

Hey mate, I would really appreciate your assistance. When you have time, please just run your eyes over the Tibetan template for each of the Eight Auspicious Symbols for the abovementioned article, ensuring any of my errors in the Tibetan script are repaired. If you cannot repair then please delete the item. I am still learning the script and the EWTS input modality of SCIM is new to me. I am not sure who else to ask.
Thank you
B9 hummingbird hovering ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:55, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

No problem. I had a look and corrected a couple of minor mistakes. BabelStone (talk) 21:49, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

encyclopedic

Thanks for the removal of "encyclopedic" from UTF-8 - you had asked "removing stray "encyclopedic" -- was this meant to be a template?" Hatting as unencyclopedic seems like a good idea. The stray word was because I wanted to double-check the spelling and so copy/pasted "encyclopedic" into the body to see if there was a red link, updated the edit summary, and forgot about the "encyclopedic." :-) --Marc Kupper|talk 06:28, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Huge_outdoor_Go-board-in-ancient-Fenghuang-city

Hiya Babelstone. I notice you often keep your eye on the main Go page Go_(game) - good on ya.

I'm rather rusty on WP, but wonder if I might draw your attention to a paragraph I've added to its Talk page, viz. Talk:Go_(game)#Huge_outdoor_Go-board-in-ancient-Fenghuang-city?

I hope you'd agree the photo of the outdoor board is great, and worth sharing with fellow Go-enthusiasts? If you know somebody who may have time and ability to link that sight or photos into Wikipedia, I'd be very grateful. Happy Go-playing. Arigatou, Trafford09 (talk) 15:31, 11 November 2009 (UTC)