Australiasims

Hello. Your recent edit appears to have added the name of a non-notable entity to a list that normally includes only notable entries. In general, a person, organization or product added to a list should have a pre-existing article before being added to most lists. If you wish to create such an article, please first confirm that the subject qualifies for a separate, stand-alone article according to Wikipedia's notability guideline. Thank you. --VViking_TalkEdits 20:07, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Belated thanks to VVikingTalk for explaining why my November 2019 edits did not meet Wikipedia's notability guideline. Australiasims (talk) 23:57, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Help me!

Please help me with...

1. Do the edits and justifications given below comply with Wikipedia policies enough so the edits would have a fighting chance of not being reverted?
   1. This is my first major edit, and I am grateful for help
2. Do I need to disclose that I work with the person who is the subject of the biography, and, if yes, what are the proper places and formats for that disclosure?
3. What is the best way to implement so many edits - including section-level edits - to an article?
   1. Edit the article section by section?
   2. Create a draft of the full re-written article and post that draft to the Talk page?
   3. Another way?

Below are descriptions of edits I'm proposing for Jimmy_Feigen.

• Reorder and rename article sections to present the content chronologically Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Biography#Order_of_events
  • From:
    • Personal life
      • Detention during 2016 Olympics
    • College career
    • International career
      • 2008-2009
      • 2011
      • 2012 Summer Olympics
      • 2013 World Championships
      • 2016 Summer Olympics
  • To:
    • Early Life
    • College Career
    • Olympics and International Career
      • 2008-2009
      • 2011
      • 2012 Summer Olympics
      • 2013 World Championships
      • 2016 Summer Olympics
      • Detention in Rio
    • Life After Swimming
• Reword the content currently in the Detention in Rio section to focus on Jimmy's role / experience re the event.
  • I propose the current content gives a broader narrative of the event than is necessary to detail Jimmy's involvement. Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view#Due_and_undue_weight
• Adding a Recent Accomplishment
  • Updating the bio by including (in the proposed "Life After Swimming" section) that in 2020 Jimmy graduated from law school and now is licensed to practice law in Texas [1] Australiasims (talk) 17:47, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi there! I'll tackle these in a slightly different order:

1. You are indeed required to disclose any financial relationship you have. The details are at WP:COIDISCLOSEPAY. In short: Read the documentation of {{paid}} and {{connected contributor (paid)}}, fill them out and add them to your userpage and the article talk page, respectively.
2. Paid editors are discouraged from editing articles directly, and should instead file edit requests which are then reviewed by an editor without a conflict of interest. See the linked page for detailed.
   • If the article does not need a full rewrite, pasting a modified version to the talk page is usually not a good idea and will delay reviews. As someone who handles edit requests from time to time, here are some things that I think make good edit requests:

1. Be clear, specific, and provide sources for everything you want added. Propose changes in "change X to Y" format.
2. If it's likely to be unclear to reviewers, but concise statements that explain why such a change is necessary.
3. Split your requests into manageable chunks. It's far easier for multiple people to implement changes piece by piece than for a single person to review a massive rewrite.
4. Watch your formatting. Requests that have a good visual structure are more likely to be reviewed quickly.
5. Be patient; unfortunately, the queue is perpetually backlogged – but the better your requests are, the more likely they are to be answered quickly.

1. It's hard to say whether your proposed changes would be accepted since we don't know the specific wording of your proposed changes – once you submit edit requests, the reviewer will leave more detailed comments.
   1. The chronological reordering is definitely a good idea; make sure to provide a reordered version, ideally surrounded by {{cot}} and {{cob}} to make it collapisble, so it's easier to implement the change.
   2. You are free to propose specific changes – broad suggestions are likely to be declined. Be sure to provide a clear and concise for why a change like this (i.e. content removal) must be made.
   3. The third addition also looks fine to me (though you could potentially find a non-primary source)

I hope this helps. Feel free to ping me or to open another help request if there is something else we can help with. Best, Blablubbs|talk 19:49, 29 December 2020 (UTC)