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Welcome edit

Great work on Otto Friedrich Ferdinand von Görschen! Keep it up!

  • An interesting surname BTW. :)

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Alexander Sergejewitsch Golowin edit

Hi! Alexander Sergejewitsch Golowin (1904-1968) was a sculptor, who lived in 1923-1940 in Prague, and Alexander Sergejewitsch Golowin (born 1983) is a hockey player. That's all. But boots can not undestand this. Have a nice day! --Gampe (talk) 15:18, 8 May 2011 (UTC)Reply

Oliver Cromwell (died 1655) edit

I reverted your change to Oliver Cromwell (died 1655) because the facts in the paragraph are covered by the citation at the end of the paragraph and as it is a very reliable source, there was no need to insert another less reliable source in the middle of the paragraph to cover the same facts. As it happens the website http://mill.arts.kuleuven.be/ seems to be down as I write this

Please read WP:INTEGRITY. If you place a citation in the middle of a paragraph to cover a fact in a sentence, people will assume that that citation covers all of the facts from either the start of the paragraph of the previous citation whichever comes first. So in this case let us first assume that there was no citation on the paragraph and your citation covered the fact that Anne was the daughter of Palavicino. Then what waould be needed is:

Cromwell married firstly Elizabeth Bromley, daughter of Thomas Bromley and had four sons and four daughters. He married secondly in July 1601,{{citation needed}} Anne Palavicino widow of Sir Horatio Palavicino and daughter of Gillis Hooftman of Antwerp.[1] He was the brother of Richard, Robert and Henry Cromwell.[2]

But as this was a fully cited paragraph, let us pretend that your new citation adds the fact that Anne was his second daughter (I have put it in bold to emphasise it for this example of course such a change in an article would not be in bold). In which case you have three choices:

1) add the original citation before the new one:

Cromwell married firstly Elizabeth Bromley, daughter of Thomas Bromley and had four sons and four daughters. He married secondly in July 1601,[2] Anne Palavicino widow of Sir Horatio Palavicino and second daughter of Gillis Hooftman of Antwerp.[3] He was the brother of Richard, Robert and Henry Cromwell.[2]

2) add your new citation at the end of the paragraph:

Cromwell married firstly Elizabeth Bromley, daughter of Thomas Bromley and had four sons and four daughters. He married secondly in July 1601, Anne Palavicino widow of Sir Horatio Palavicino and second daughter of Gillis Hooftman of Antwerp. He was the brother of Richard, Robert and Henry Cromwell.[2][4]

2) add your new citation at the end of the paragraph and annotate it for clarity:

Cromwell married firstly Elizabeth Bromley, daughter of Thomas Bromley and had four sons and four daughters. He married secondly in July 1601, Anne Palavicino widow of Sir Horatio Palavicino and second daughter of Gillis Hooftman of Antwerp. He was the brother of Richard, Robert and Henry Cromwell.[2][5]

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OK that explains why I reverted your changes, and how you can add citations to an already cited paragraph. Here are a couple of other observations:

  • The bot edited your edit because citations have to be placed after a full stop (personally I disagree with the consensus on this, but it is the consensus).
  • If there is an established citation style then please follow it, in this case it is short inline citations using templates (see WP:CITE and {{sfn}})
  • There is a nifty template to link to foreign articles it is called {{Interlanguage link}} or for short {{ill}}. In this case you mentioned Gillis Hooftman on the German Wikipedia. You can use {{ill}} to link to it like this:
{{ill|de|Gillis Hooftman}} produces Gillis Hooftman

There are more parameters that can be passed and you can read about them in the template's documentation. This template also exists in other languages so you probably could do the same in the de:Gillis Hooftman article for the red link to de:Oliver Cromwell († 1655). -- PBS (talk) 09:38, 26 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

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Aachener Domchor edit

Hey ArthurMcGill!

I was wondering if you can spot-check the accuracy of Aachener Domchor for me. It currently states it was founded in the year 782 which doesn't seem to be in line with what German Wikipedia says on the matter. Since you wrote the original article on German Wikipedia, could you help determine what the correct year would be? –MJLTalk 01:33, 21 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hello MJL, thanks for the inquiry, unfortunately my english is not so good.

In the German wiki article no exact year is given, but dated "around 800". The information refers to the construction of the Aachen Royal Palace of Aachen and the Palatine Chapel, Aachen, both of which were built between the years 790 and 814 and related to the establishment of the scola cantorum. The canon monastery de:Marienstift (Aachen), where the founding began, was only set up around this time, when Karl declared Aachen his residence.The Aachen city archives (which I looked up) also do not have exact dates because there are no official founding documents. Likewise, the cathedral choir's own website does not commit itself to a specific year. A determination would be pure speculation. Best regards, ArthurMcGill (talk) 07:53, 21 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

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