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Hi, got references and publication details for McAllister's extras?
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Thanks for creating List of compositions by Chris Dench, Andro b!
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You could add the Grove listing as a reference here – sources independent of the subject are always preferable where possible.
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Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 14:10, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- We are currently awaiting aproval to edit the very out of date entry at Grove Online. Andro b (talk) 14:21, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)Hi! Just a word of caution: please be very careful when copying material from copyright sources. As you probably know, copying simple facts is OKl but copying anything that could be considered creative is not. So the titles and durations of Dench's compositions are surely all right to copy, but phrases such as "all amplified and uncoordinated" might conceivably be seen as unacceptable. I suggest removing that sort of thing from your list, and also fixing eccentricities such as "altoflute". By the way, we don't normally follow people's eccentric typography – the composition titles should probably be capitalised in the ordinary way – "Light-strung Sigils". Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 14:30, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- And … er … who is "we"? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 14:31, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)Hi! Just a word of caution: please be very careful when copying material from copyright sources. As you probably know, copying simple facts is OKl but copying anything that could be considered creative is not. So the titles and durations of Dench's compositions are surely all right to copy, but phrases such as "all amplified and uncoordinated" might conceivably be seen as unacceptable. I suggest removing that sort of thing from your list, and also fixing eccentricities such as "altoflute". By the way, we don't normally follow people's eccentric typography – the composition titles should probably be capitalised in the ordinary way – "Light-strung Sigils". Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 14:30, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- Grove is not Wikipedia, and has different policies. The composer and I are communicating with Grove to have the composer entry updated, and we are awaiting various administrative processes. That is who 'we' refers to. If it is the case that as a colleague of the composer I am debarred from producing a works list or a biography, say now, and I will take the page out. Andro b (talk) 14:52, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks, Andro b, for being straightforward about your connection to Dench. The reason I asked "who is 'we'" is that our user accounts are strictly for private individuals, and those editing on behalf of institutions (which we don't allow) sometimes refer to themselves as "we". Now that that's out of the way, you do have a conflict of interest (by Wikipedia standards) in relation to Dench and his work. I really can't see any problem with that as far as the list of works is concerned. You would, however, be strongly discouraged from editing an article about him, if we had one (which as far as I can see, we don't). If there are other articles where you have similar connections to the subject, you are always welcome (really, welcome!) to propose changes or improvements by posting on the talk page. I'm sorry if this seems unreasonably authoritarian; unfortunately we have a lot of people coming here to promote their band/ supermarket/ employer/ new book/ pet theory/ whatever (you name it), and these guidelines are designed to keep that vaguely under control. I'm available to answer questions or offer advice at any time. If you write here and include
{{u|Justlettersandnumbers}}in your post, I should see it and will try to respond. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:41, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks, Andro b, for being straightforward about your connection to Dench. The reason I asked "who is 'we'" is that our user accounts are strictly for private individuals, and those editing on behalf of institutions (which we don't allow) sometimes refer to themselves as "we". Now that that's out of the way, you do have a conflict of interest (by Wikipedia standards) in relation to Dench and his work. I really can't see any problem with that as far as the list of works is concerned. You would, however, be strongly discouraged from editing an article about him, if we had one (which as far as I can see, we don't). If there are other articles where you have similar connections to the subject, you are always welcome (really, welcome!) to propose changes or improvements by posting on the talk page. I'm sorry if this seems unreasonably authoritarian; unfortunately we have a lot of people coming here to promote their band/ supermarket/ employer/ new book/ pet theory/ whatever (you name it), and these guidelines are designed to keep that vaguely under control. I'm available to answer questions or offer advice at any time. If you write here and include
- Neither the subject of my page nor myself wish to comply with your illiberal policies. I wish the page to be deleted. Please advise how that may be done rapidly. Since you disallow me from writing a biography, to which the list of compositions was to be a companion, I would be grateful for deletion. This is the second time I have encountered the illiberal attitude of all powerful editors at Wikipedia, and I am thoroughly disillusioned with the attitude and the process, and yes, I have read the hundreds of pages of policy. As for suggesting the capitalization of work titles be altered to fit some bland house style, that amounts to artistic tampering, and is unacceptable. No doubt you also want to alter most of e e cummimgs' works also. I and my colleague wish to have nothing further to do with wikipedia, and I shall henceforth cease my donations to the organisation. I am sure you are in good faith, but it is not an organisation we want anything further to do with. Justlettersandnumbers Andro b (talk) 06:31, 6 February 2017 (UTC)