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Religious views of Adolf Hitler

Please read WP:PRIMARY. You draw your own conclusions from a primary source, which is fine outside the encyclopedia, but not for Wikipedia. Kleuske (talk) 10:59, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

That's ironic calling it an encyclopedia with an article like that. Implying Goebbels is anti-Christian is ridiculous and false. What conclusion can be drawn from a guy praising Jesus Christ and Christianity in his private dairy?

"A nation without a religion - that is like a man without breath."

"Christianity is not a religion for the masses, let alone for all. Cultivated by few and translated into deeds, it is one of the most splendid blossoms that can grow in the soul of a good man."

"If Christ came back he would drive his treacherous servants out of the temple with a whip."

"Christ is the genius of love and as such the most diametric antipole to Jewry, which is the incarnation of hate. … Christ was the first anti-Jewish opponent of stature. … The Jew is the lie that became flesh. He nailed Christ to the cross, and thus for the first time in history nailed the eternal truth to the cross."

"The war we are fighting until victory or the bitter end is in its deepest sense a war between Christ and Marx. Christ: the principle of love. Marx: the principle of hate.",

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joseph_Goebbels#Michael:_a_German_fate_in_diary_notes_(1926)

"Policy: Unless restricted by another policy, primary sources that have been reputably published may be used in Wikipedia, but only with care, because it is easy to misuse them.[4] Any interpretation of primary source material requires a reliable secondary source for that interpretation. A primary source may only be used on Wikipedia to make straightforward, descriptive statements of facts that can be verified by any educated person with access to the primary source but without further, specialized knowledge. For example, an article about a novel may cite passages to describe the plot, but any interpretation needs a secondary source.",

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research#Primary,_secondary_and_tertiary_sources

The quotes used in wikiquote are sourced from Michael: ein Deutsches Schicksal in Tagebuchblättern, Zentralverlag der NSDAP, Franz Eher Nachf., Munich, 7th edition, 1935.

"A Christian is a person who follows or adheres to Christianity, an Abrahamic, monotheistic religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus Christ.",

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian AnalyticCritic (talk) 16:41, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Also, could you please take it to the talk page. I made a section there a little while ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler#Goebbels AnalyticCritic (talk) 16:55, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

The important bit is "Any interpretation of primary source material requires a reliable secondary source for that interpretation." Kleuske (talk) 21:07, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

"A primary source may only be used on Wikipedia to make straightforward, descriptive statements of facts that can be verified by any educated person with access to the primary source", it's a fact Goebbels made pro-Christian statements (in his private dairy) that contradict the claim of being anti-Christian. Maybe anti-church would be a better word? AnalyticCritic (talk) 22:27, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

March 2018

Hello, I'm Oshwah. I noticed that in this edit to Persecution of Christians, you removed content without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, the removed content has been restored. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:50, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

My explanation was, "No mention of persecution based on the persecuted's belief in Christianity.". The article is about Christians being persecuted for being Christians. Not Christians being persecuted for political reasons unrelated to Christianity. There wasn't a mention of a single Christian being persecuted based on their religion. AnalyticCritic (talk) 22:54, 14 March 2018 (UTC)